August 5, 2005 at 11:45 pm #7044
Hi there Rainbow bear, I was just reading some of what you had posted recently and I see you mentioed a qigong master that you had bad experiences with.You say he was in Vancouver, do you remember his name?This would be very helpful to me.Thank You!August 6, 2005 at 1:54 am #7045
The “master” lived in Vancouver before he moved to Edmonton. I have seen documentation of a couple of his “names”. I do not like to personally bad mouth anyone as in universe it is not so good to judge but I find that I would like people to know what can go on and to be aware of that. Before I would give you more info on him I would like more on who you are and why you desire his name. Also, if you would like to email me personally I would do that but not on a forum. You can email me at email@example.com.
It is not my purpose nor intention to hurt anyone’s livelihood and I am very careful not to do that … but remember his name, well I gave him all of my students and connections that I ever had, arranged his classes, rented his place of teaching, collected the $ and paid him also. So remember him, my god I will never forget it. I paid him over $500 per month and even though I asked him over and over gain for a receipt he never gave me one, not for the 6 months I was literally his personal business assistant. And that does not include the $ he received from seminars I arranged for him. I felt so sorry for the poor guy, being away from his “wife?” in Vancouver and not having anything here. Boo hoo! While I was working my ass off to provide as much as I could give him, even gave him furniture, well he was sucking out numerous plane fares to go back home to Vancouver. At least 12 times … return trips. Sucked it from a dying cancer patient. And money for tx on top of that. And he was also treating a couple of other “sick” patients. How much he gleaned from them I have no idea. Funny thing though, when he wanted to get a vehicle it was a brand new Nissan. No second hand stuff for him. Where the hell did he get his money from? My friend who accompanied him to Vancouver said sometimes they would drop him off at a corner in the city and there were a couple times when they would go back to see him, maybe to mention something he did not tell him, and the qigong master had totally disappeared. Gone. No where in sight from one block to the next.
My friend had gone with him to Vancouver a couple of times to get some cancer tx there by IV therapy. A referral or suggestion by this “qigong” master I think, not sure on that. But anyways it was this IV therapy that gave my friend who died the strept infection in his stomach. When my partner and I suggested he go to the hospital they drained over 2 litres of yellow infection from his stomach cavity. He was full of streptoccoccus, similar to what you call flesh eating disease. Anyways, try beating that along with a cancer, bowel cancer. Friggin nuts. I could tell you stories that would make your skin crawl. This is only a portion of it all. And you know it makes me pretty darn angry when others on this forum say “chill”. Excuse me! Is anyone aware of the idiots out there that we think are just “IT” and we give them all the power in our lives and they just come and use and abuse and rip us off. Hurt people, hurt familes. I mean my friend who died, don’t you think his kids could have used the money he gave to this qigong master. What about their future education. I imagine he gave up, on the low side $15,000, maybe as high as $20,000 to this “master” in 6 months,over the 1 1/2 years of knowing him it could be double that, I only am aware of the last few months. By what I understand anyways. I mean my friend was desperate to live. And there are so many that will take advantage of that desperation. I had originally started a company to get people who had high ethics to help people, people who would even do healing for free and then I ran into this scumbag. This whole experience shook confidence in myself in that I could choose the “right” ones who would help. I just kind of let the company fall to the side, it was a nonprofit company. And this qiogng master, he even had the nerve to get one of his students, one of the students I helped him get, had her email me to ask that we give up shares in his own nonprofit company I helped him create. I told him he could do it the hard way. Find out for himself, I wasn’t going to give him anything. Pay to get it done thru the government. Never heard from his student again.
I can not name how many times we had this guy for supper, into our family, feeling oh so sorry for him, being away from his wife for so long, being in a new place, living scarcely, giving of himself for others. And then it started to sink in …. we never heard from him on the weekends. And then when our friend with cancer, when he contacted us while we were away from the city and begged me and my partner to help him. And when our friend from Tennessee flew up to hlep us and him, with our dying friend only paying airfare for exhchange for tx…. our friend from Tennessee did not charge any $ for the healing, well we found out as time went on just what was really going on all of this time. And our friend with cancer was so brainwashed that he almost cried that this so called “qigong master” wouldn’t even come and see him when he was in the hospital or when we were treating him, while he was so sick … although this qigong master did phone our sick friend and tell him that it would cost him MORE money to have him come out. WHat the hell is that all about? I mean if I am understanding wrong, someone tell me.
As my friend was dying we tried so hard to comfort him. Tried to turn him around but even though we helped him for a time and there was hope for a bit,the streptococcus infections was just too big, too strong. And our friend grasped at everything and did try a treatment of vibration, which just screwed up all the energetic work that we had done on him. You know if only people were aware of what they did. It was like though, that our dying friend subconsciously wanted to go. I mean we knew when we saw him he was going to die, but we left that at the door and we wholeheartedly went to do what we could for him, so did our friend from Tennessee and we asked the creator to do whatever was able to be done. I know that our friend died the way he should have but I just wish he did not have to experience such a scumbug. But he never saw this guy as a scumbag, he just believed he “went wrong way”, wife had too many demands. He was so forgiving even while he was dying. His choice and we also had to accept all of this. Not always ours to understand, just to work with I guess.
I mean this “qigong master” said he played soccer a lot at home, just like our dying friend did when he was healthy. In fact our dying friend even got the qigong master on his old soccer team. Well, it took only 5 minutes on the soccer field to see this qigong master was lying thru his teeth. He ws terrible. Our friend lost face iwth his team mates, and had to make up a reason to the qigong master why he could not play on the soccer team anymore.
Oh and this qigong master told my partner and I that he would show usmartial arts … know how he handled that one. While at his apt. he showed us a chinese martial arts book. Flipped thru the pages in about, well maybe 2 minutes. He took the book back, we never saw it again and that was about all our “showing of martial arts” we ever had. Universe didn’t know though and karmicly he had fullfilled his obligation. Tricky you see. And I see now how some of the postures he made us do, well, they would appear to any being or other master looking energetically in on us that we were kowtowing and paying homage to this “qigong” master when all the time we as students just thought that we were doing “exercises”.
Also, when we got to do some classes in a “Free Masons” hall, one with the “thrones” so to speak. Well I had an inkling then of our so called qigong master’s personality traits. I mean he just loved to sit in that throne and give his session from there. I mean the whole energy thing inthere was male from many, many years of male energy practise, etc. and this qigong master just was in his glory being “head” of it all. Funny thing though, the women students didn’t care for the hall. Men loved it.
While a student/partner with this “qigong” master my father died, my partner and I were in a car accident, my partner got salmonella and had to be hospitalized. So many not so good things. The final straw was when after my partner got out of the hospital (and our friend qigong master never even visited) and we attended class and he said to us, well you are getting better aren’t you … and I looked hims straight in the eyes and he lowered his gaze. He could not even look at me. Then…. then is when I knew everything was a bunch of shit. I was so angry.
Oh I have many more things. many more. I lost $3,000 in a venture I thought would bring many energetic workers together. We were to be partners in it, but funny thing, he never put a single dime in it. And when we went to sign papers with the hotel where we were going to host this event he decided that he wanted to have a separate contract with his company. Even though I paid all of the friggin money and these were my contacts and my friends. And he got free room and meals for a night because of it. He could see, he had a vision I believe that told him I would not be able to go thru with the arrngements due to my fathers death and the energy that would knock out of me. But of course he never once tried to help me int hat way, he just wanted to keep what I had arranged for himself. So you know it is just not energy stuff, it is $ and it is ethics and it is hurting a lot of innocent people these foreigners who come to our land and pretend they are what they are not. And the false promises and the cheating that they do. And this is why I can not trust Chinese. This is why. At the very beginning of it all, I did not know, before this qigong master I studied with a taiji master. I did not know anything, just want to do a martial art exercise. So innocent. So naive. My god …. these are only 2, I have others stories. It is just so sad. You know westerners are only beginning to understand the new age energy and we are so open to learning and we trust way to soon, way too much and we give freely way too much of what we have. I have lived many lives in 7 years. Many lives. And some who have followed my writings here may think I think I know it all. But it is far from the truth. I know nothing. But I have had a lot of expereinces and I feel that if I can help anyone from being chewed up and spit out by the dragon I will. It is better to learn to dance with the dragon. Better that. Not to be hurt. And I am quite aware of how I hang onto things. Ah, but better I do that, better I digest it, better I eventually clean it, better I eventually heal it. Better that and to know of it than to be naive of it.
And you know what someone said, that when there is transmission you do not have to give anything of yourself. BULLSHIT. There are very, very few times that transmission happens that the masters gives without receiving. There is always an exchange. Always. Why do you think masters get their students to do so many exercises and binding to them. They want something in return for their quest for immortality. It is better to be student of someone whose quest is not immortality but one of global service. The master requires high energy to overcome his karmic responsibilities, to overcome the dragging down of lower levels. To get this high energy, how the hell do you think he does it. It takes way to long to cultivate it yourself. But you know what .. a little here from this student, a little here from that student, a little connection here, a gathering of all student energies, a few mantras and the right connection to a universal being (maybe good being, maybe not so good) and voila. You have just created yourself a “god”. Now I ask you why does that master want to be god and why is it necessary to be immortal. Why? So he can be in control right? Why is that necessary? Is not the universal guidance enough. Excuse me, please explain why it is necessary. And you know what, I believe that one can cultivate high level oneself with good deeds, with good intentions, with good energy, pure energy, still living in your karmic responsiblity, even getting rid of it with pure heart. I totally believe that one should be definately aware of what is being done in transmission and exactly who you are being transmitted to and from. If anyone knows 100% of anyone who opens students without having exchange please let me know and prove me wrong. I am open to that.
Oh but please do be so careful because most of what you play with … you have no idea about, and frankly I know not so much about it either. Build yourself strong first. Be who you are and never let anything nor anyone take that away from you. The universe made you, you are here for a reason, do not let some fool trying to reach selfish immortality for himself take that away from you. Never. True transmission I believe is meant to join us all together with the divine. It is not so that the one who “assists” with transmission receives immortality. And I believe that is the twist. That is where we are going wrong way. I believe that having that one intention of reaching immortality for yourself takes you the wrong way. True immortality is reached and I believe int his 100%, it is reached when we are SELFLESS, when we work for all of use to be awake and immortal. This to me is truth. Is true understanding. At this time in life, at this time I believe it is as prophesized. There are many, many false prophets and many fallen angels. Think about it. Just think about it.
Well, have to go and do one of my grounding and reality check things … cleaning out the vet clinic. I just hope there is no dog testicles ithe surgery recepticle. I hate getting rid of those.
Transmission of martial art information. Maybe that is different. Maybe. Not sure on that. I would like more information on that. Maybe is same.
Email me if you want more info onthis fellow I studied with. Remember his name …. like I said … I do not think centuries will erase it.
Rainbows!August 6, 2005 at 8:10 pm #7047
Please consider the following…. or not;0):
You are giving far too much of your energy to this ‘chikung master’.
even though you may not be physically associating with him, you may have brought him into your self (energetically) and it may be wiser to just let him go now.
Perhaps its time for you to internally thank him for all the life lessons that he directly and indirectly taught you and then ‘cut the cords’ that have been binding you all this time.
Smile healing pure energy from above and below to fill any empty holes that may be created by this removal/action.
Living in the now is so much more empowering than looking back all the time.
Yes, it is wise to learn from the past, but ultimately, i think it is more fun to enjoy to gift of life without so much emotional baggage.
If you’r ever in Vancouver, there is a kundalini support group that meets every 1st and third wednesday of the month. There is no charge, and the hostess is Mystress Angelique Serpent. (Don’t let her name throw you, she uses it to filter out all the people who are not ready to go beyond duality;)
peace and smilesAugust 6, 2005 at 11:33 pm #7049
Thank you so much for you advice. And I have energetically cut the ties that bind with this so called “master”. And believe me I do not put any more energy into this master nor that experience then I absolutely feel I should.
I do have a life that requires much focus and responsiblity. Believe me this qigong master isn’t worth me pining away for days nor hours on end. However as I get started on a thought sometimes the process that led to that thought also surfaces. A thought or event and this is what has happened inthis case. And although I do appreciate your “concern” and do take your adivce into consideration I find that your approach is like the ostrich with his head in the sand. And other than giving what, maybe all total 30 minutes of typing time to this event in my life do you really and truly think that I have nothing else to do then walk around with a chip on my shoulder. I send this so called qigong master good wishes all the time and I pray that he heals his wounds created by him and to him. But that doesn’t mean I won’t kick him in the balls the next time I see him. That is my god given right to do so and believe me I will definately use it when and if given the chance. And I will continue to let others know to be wary of such energy workers, to have their own best interests at heart all of the time. To be strong in self and not to give up one atom one nano of their essence to anyone other than themself. I will continue to do that. It is better to walk thru a shit pile with your eyes wide open in hopes that you miss the piles or at least be given hip waders to wade thru it all then to be pushed into the shit piles without any warning. And yeah, yeah, heard the universal lesson stuff already. Anytime you want to know about any of those lessons, let me know, I have an encyclopedia of them I can lend to you.
Really, I do believe in global peace, I do believe that everyone has good and bad in them, white and black, I do believe we each hold male and female … I truly do. I believe we are all connected by silver thread, by hearts. But that doesn’t give everyone or anyone the right to pull the wool over others eyes, it doesn’t mean that we should lay down and let people stomp all over us, that doesn’t mean that we should listen to everyone who is named Rainbowbear nor Farooq nor the Serpent Queen. It does not. Ahh, but if reading such things makes you thnk of something you never thought of before, or never experienced before then ,,, ahh then that is good.
And I have only seen everyone on here tip toe around such issues. SHHH don’t say that, sssshhhh don’t say this. SSSHHHHH
LIke I said if you think I sit at home or at work mulling all this over, nope. Do not. But when I just have finished up some of my company work it does remind me of that event in my life.
By the way I use sword cutting technique to cut all ties. Like the Samurai. Using a huge samurai sword I swing it down to the very bowels of the roots. I learned that in my martial arts class and I use it energetically to cut the ties that bind. I will also change to a straight sword – mentally. It gives a finer cut and I can dance with it much faster. Energetically. Works wonders.
I have no interest in the lady in Vancouver, although I am sure she may be quite nice, and perhaps knowledgeable. I no longer seek out any teachers nor any “masters” – that part of my life is over. I chose to learn from nature and the people around me. And discussions on the forum, and maybe Michael Winn’s comments. Other than that .. not interested.August 7, 2005 at 3:11 am #7051
Yes, life lessons can be very painful.
Perhaps you can also take comfort in the fact that at least he was not your own flesh and blood.
In my case, up till the age of 32, i foolishly devoted my whole life to my father and the family business. As I grew older I realized that we were not really progressing because of the way my dad was operating our company. So, when I finally took a stand, my dad took the position that it all belonged to him, and if i did not like the way he was making the decisions, then i should just walk away.
So there I was, with a wife, three kids and another on the way, and a big fat mortgage. And no more income.
I was initially euphoric that I was finally free of the yoke around my neck, but sure enough, on my own I fell flat on my face. I burned through our RRSPs, (life savings), maxed the credit cards, and got down so low that I seriously contemplated suicide. And Im a Muslim! (we are like Roman Catholics regarding suicide)
God blessed me with a wonderful, strong, and resourceful wife – (ironically an arranged marriage made by my dad). She and I picked up the pieces and finally turned things around by the grace of God.
Its been over 8 years since then. My dads company eventually went bankrupt and he died suddenly a few years back.
When he died, we still had not patched things up between us. I was too busy with my new business. It had never occurred to me that he could die so soon. He always seemed 10 feet tall to me. Plus his dad had lived to be 105. But it was his time…. his kismet.
I miss him and pray for him every day
As you know, Rainbowbear, these types of life lessons (and much much worse) have happened to almost every one since the beginning of mankind and will go on till God calls it a day;0)
There are all types of ways to handle these challenges but I would suggest that if you desire lasting true peace and happiness – cultivating Compassion towards all is the ultimate trick.
I hope that my previous post has not offended you in any way.
We greatly have lacked a strong feminine presence on this board since Raven called it quits, and Plato and Max(?) scared off Tear of Ra with their funny pictures:0). Yours (and Wendys) presence is greatly appreciated.
Peace and smilesAugust 7, 2005 at 11:52 am #7053
no txtAugust 7, 2005 at 1:01 pm #7055
YOu have not offended me, well maybe a little. And I am truly sorry for you and your father’s relationship, that it was not more fullfilling. I guess I was lucky in mine, with my father.
I think that as women when we get comments as you made in your last comments, the first email you sent me, we can read it, but unless it has a great big investment, like something to chew on as this last one relayed, about your personal experiences then the comments and suggestions just seem so bookish. I think as women we tend to ask why do they feel this way, why do they comment this way and we can get a little stand offish if we don’t understand that there truly is life experience coming across in this. As you can tell by my emails, and Wendy’s we tend to pour our hearts out and if you look at the men’s replies it takes a little more urging to have that happen. Some just don’t like to type. And others fly off to Porno Conventions (ha, ha). Men have huge hearts, women have huge hearts just different ways of commuicating them I think. And I think men serve as great grounders for us flighty women. It is good for us both.
You are right in your compassion. And I do try. And I will try to continue that. But have you ever, and I am sure you must have just felt like and even did, scream, scream, scream. I have taken to that lately. I do it in the car, while driving, with the windows up. Sometimes that helps as much as the cutting. I am at the place you were with your father, in not the same way, but in working with family to provide them with good structure and a base from which they can grow. And to find that not all of the family are so much in appreciation of that. And to have to step back and know that to give is best when it is given unconditionally. And that is hard when the bills are piling up and there are lessons to be learned by the kids. And that in itself is so hard. To know that to teach lessons one must step back and watch them fail and be in pain, and find their own way. As mother and caregiver this is so hard to do, but it is necessary. Being psychic is not all that it is cracked up to be. Sometimes you suffer thru the hard stuff twice. YOur heart feels it and there is a foreboding but you know you can not change it not even touch it, maybe, maybe you can lighten it but sometimes one can not even do that. I used to hold it all and I learned not to do that the hard way. I used to carry everyone else’s pain, all the time. Now only sometimes. Holding is not allowed.
So, well I see you recovered from it all and I know I will too. It is a time passing. But I know I will still need those times of screaming in a car with windows rolled up as I drive down the freeway. I find it amazing as to how much anger the human can hold. I am sure that if I could harness it all I could light up New York for a week.
It is nice and comforting to see you are Muslim. Not sure why but I think that is a good thing. I am not so familiar with all of your religious beliefs but I did take up the Catholic faith when I got married many years ago. Originally I was brought up protestant. (Good thing I don’t live in Ireland I guess).
Now well, I float. All religions are awesome in their true source.
Thanks for the comfort. And I guess with your father, well I guess it was all lessons for you and for him. But the essence of love underneath all of the earth stuff is still there. That is comforting in itself. I liken it to stageacting, kind of like we do this and that to make this and that happen to facilitate this and that energy. But I think that allof us stageactors, in father/son relationships, business relationships, religions, …underneath it all we are all as one, I was gong to say the same, but we are truly not, we are all so uniquely different, otherwise we could not build the yin and yang and spiral and tension and release that is required. We would truly be void. And void may be good on some planes and in some other worlds but on earth I believe to “feel” is such a blessing. I believe that in our feeling we can truly feel each other if we only open our hearts enough. It is comforting to know that in opening ones heart there are places to do so and get open heart in return. With understanding. Like sometimes, like here.
May the rainbows shine brightly in your heart.
RainbowbearAugust 8, 2005 at 8:47 pm #7057
It’s nice to know you can see where i’m comming from with my posts.
We rented the DVD the other day for “Signs” by the guy who made the ‘6th Sense’ (i love his films)
Basically the point of the story for me was that EVERYTHING happens for a reason.
Most the of the time we haven’t a clue as to why, but let time unfold and things start to get clearer.
There is a neat passage in the Quran that means in essence that people will be at a loss except those who cultivate patience.
Its actually very hard advice, but it is golden.
btw i thought it was so funny that you wrote:
“Some just don’t like to type.”
thats me – you hit the nail on the head;0)
over the years i could have posted much more but typing is a real pain for me (i’m a really slooow typer) – i also am usually pressed for time so i just skim through whats been written and try to absorb whats useful.
If i ever seem too brief or don’t post it just means ‘real life’ is taking centre stage. otherwise i too feel that forums like these are a real blessing.
peace and smilesAugust 8, 2005 at 8:56 pm #7059
I wonder if i could have followed the above advice when i was going through the meltdown with my dad?
Things like that really polarizes people so that the best of advice just goes out one ear and out the other.
I guess i just had to learn the hard way.
So , how is your writing comming along?
peace and smilesAugust 10, 2005 at 12:43 am #7061
I think it took about 38 years before I could communicate w/ my father man to man. Before then I always felt like a bumbling kid or rebellious teenager. And knowing all the proverbs and wise sayings didn’t make a spit of difference.
Thanks for asking about the writings. I’m procrastinating like crazy. I’ll write page after page of outlinings. But I’m not writing out the stories, just notes, observationsk, plot lines, twists, ideas. I think I just have to relax and give myself permission to write it badly. But write, the story.
One day I’m sure Billy Shakespears stories of Wonder, followed by Billy Shakespear meets Charley Dickens, followed by Billy Sheakespear and Sheherazad stay up Late, followed by Modern Knights, will sail past the lenghy Harry Potter books in book stores everywhere :).
MichaelAugust 10, 2005 at 3:37 pm #7063
I think procrastination is just another word for fear.
whats been working for me is to just surrender the fear to the source of all things (Tao, God, Void etc…. what ever you want to call it.)
have you tried communing with your muse or innerself?
Do your best and leave the rest to the Divine, because
writing is not an easy path,
may your travel be smooth and joyful.
btw the “Billy Sheakespear and Sheherazad stay up Late” title sounds entrancing;0)
peace and smilesAugust 10, 2005 at 6:15 pm #7065
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