for ╠tDAO Mayan Calendar Enthusiasts: Dreamspell vs Long Count

not planning to post much here anymore but think should throw this in for those involved:

Traditional Mayan vs Dreamspell

“Arguelles’ massive argument is that time is basically dispensing in orbitals moving from large scale galactic to small planetary lunar, and that the ~.25 day leap year aberration is exactly that- a speck of grime on galactic cog wheels moving downstream to planetary levels… As such, he argues that the traditional count was public, a flatland 3D order/wheel which orbits in a degree of synchronic lapse in relation to the downstream flow from the higher dimensions and 4D wheel due to the cumulative ~.25 yearly rollover.. In other words every day’s seal from multi-space is roughly ~1.00075 Ur days in length by radial distribution… at a certain origination point they were identical and at certain intervals the two counts will overlap, then distance, then overlap again due to this cumulative “leap year”… He in fact argues that this ~.25 will at some point phase back to nothing as part of astro-physical dynamics.”

-anonymous calendar enthusiast

http://www.mayanmajix.com/gb250.html

the only real differences are:

1) the day sign and tones on a given day are a different
2) 13 Moon drops one seal every 4 years
3) to my knowledge the known Maya kept a 29/30 day phase calendar, not a 13 month orbit, however there is heavy indication that this is all that is publicly known and that Mayan shaman priests kept many things in secret..

the website MayanMajix.com has great info on the traditional count in contrast to lawoftime.org for the new 13 Moon..

on MayanMajix the main point is this:

they are arguing that Dreamspell was NOT accepted by authentic Mayan lineage, that they never kept a 28 day count, and, in fact that the true Mayan calendar is not tied to our Solar system at all.. the info presented is that the Maya use a 260 count Tzolkin which has no known Earthly origin but matches the human gestation cycle… They then argue, however, that 20 and 13 ARE galactic or universal in frequency.. in short they present a 260 day count, a 360 day count called the Tun, and argue that the Mayans knew about leap year and the true year length but only truly gave weight to these two 260 and 360 counts for the given reasons..

heavy issues–> where did the Hunab Ku image above originate.. there is a historical origin hundreds of years before Arguelles… did anyone keep a 13 orbit calendar… there is indication it was a high secret (E.T.), where did the Loom of Maya/Tzolkin module originate? I have heard it was kept in the 13:20 grid by the inner priest orders possibly including the 52 unit loom

note here: most of this is covered in The Mayan Factor, more fun in Earth Ascending, both well worth purchasing very affordable and super material in all respects) here Arguelles references Tony Shearer in regard to the 52 unit loom, however the math speaks for itself..

in contrast, Dreamspell/13 Moon gets into references to a powerful order of Yucatec Mayan Shamans related to the Books of Chilam Balam… this is a real mess as it is obvious form this era that many things happened involving the Roman Church and the survival of the Maya and that corrective counts involving 24 day loops instead of 20 and possibly a count even matching the Dreamspell in seal placement existed at one time, furthermore Arguelles was part of a “Wizards” ceremony which involved some very real people..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chilam_Balam

So what does it amount to? the traditional is easy, pure 260 ever recurring cycles, that’s it… same count as ever, all 13 x 20.. there are some side cycles but that’s the core..

Dreamspell is a 13 Moon dispensation, that is the whole point… the loom occurs through quadrations, cyclic intervals, and says look! 13 x 28… Arguelles massive argument is that time/energy/timing is dispensing in orbitals moving from large to small, and that the .25 day earth/sun leap year aberration is exactly that, a speck of grime on galactic cog wheels moving down to planetary levels…

This is no different from the true lunar orbit being:

sidereal month 27.32166155 with respect to the distant stars (13.36874634 passes per solar orbit)

synodic month 29.53058886 with respect to the Sun (phases of the Moon, 12.36874634 passes per solar orbit)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orbit_of_the_Moon

CORE RESPONSES:

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from Arguelles on 13 Months of 28 Days excerpted from “Time and the Technosphere”

“The Rinri Project builds on the Telektonon play that
establishes the biotelepathic circuit. On this circuit, two towers, days 1 and 6, define a four-day Earth Walk, and two towers, days 23 and 28, define a four-day Heaven Walk. Between the second and the third towers, days 6 and 23, are the sixteen positions of the Cube of the Law, days 7-22. The four towers every Moon correspond to
one radial set of four Galactic Activation Portals in the Harmonic Module- thirteen moons x four towers = 52 Galactic Activation Portals (GAPs). Sixteen cube positions each moon x 13 Moons = 208, the remaining number of kin in the Harmonic Module once the 52 GAPs have been subtracted from the 260 units. Since the Harmonic
Module is the basis of the psi bank, this formulation provides a way of coordinating the four psi bank plates of the noosphere to the Thirteen Moon calendar year on a daily and annual basis.”

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Rinri Project Newsletter Vol. 2 No.5- from Arguelles himself on the “New Count”

“There continues to be confusion and controversy over what is called the Dreamspell Count and what is called the Traditional Mayan count. Let it be made unequivocally clear: the Dreamspell count, based on the Gregorian calendar synchronization date of July 26, according to the sequence of the Gateway family year bearers, Seed (Kan), Moon (Muluc), Wizard (Ix), and Storm (Cauac), is not an invented fantasy. It is a precise expression of the only recorded prophetic tradition of the Maya, the Chilam Balam. In fact, the Dreamspell synchronization system in the tradition of the Chilam Balam is called “Cuceb,” literally “Squirrel,” or “that which turns.” By this system of correlation, which dates back at least to AD 1513, the sequence of days of the Tzolkin marked Kan, Muluc, Ix and Cauac always synchronized the day 0 Pop, beginning of the Haab 18-Vinal + 5-day Uayeb Solar Calendar, on the Julian ( pre-1582) Calendar date, July 16, and the Gregorian (post-1582), July 26.

In the fulfillment of the prophecies of Pacal Votan, the mysterious occult source of the Chilam Balam tradition, the Gregorian Calendar is replaced by the Tun Uc, Thirteen Moon 28-Day civil calendar so that Magnetic Moon 1 (old Gregorian July 26) always correlates 0 Pop of the Haab with a Seed, Moon, Wizard or Storm day of the Galactic Cycle or Tzolkin. This is the meaning of Cuceb, that which turns.

The purpose of the Tun Uc (Moon Count or Seven Count) is to establish a pure equivalence of civil time governed by the 13:20 frequency of the Law of Time, where: 13 moons (4 x 7 days) = 7 days (4 x 13 weeks) and 28 Wavespells (13 days) = 13 Moons (28 days) The Tzolkin grid which is utilized in the Mayan Factor and all Dreamspell play is also derived from the Chilam Balam, where it is known as the Buk Xok permutation table. The gift of Tony Shearer was to show the Loom of Maya grid of 52 activation portals within this matrix. Arranged as 13 quartets, each quartet having a sum of 28 tones, this also demonstrates the coded existence of the Thirteen Moons in the Loom of Maya Tzolkin-Harmonic Module grid. Finally, the sequence of the Thirteen Moons or Tun Uc with their totem animals is also pure Mayan and corresponds to the sequence of thirteen Mayan constellations as re-discovered and presented by Hugh Harleston en El Zodiaco Maya (1991). Since Harleston does not account for the Day-Out-of-Time, there is but a one day discrepancy between the thirteen totemic constellations and the corresponding Thirteen Moons correlated according to the Cuceb-Dreamspell synchronization point of July 26.”

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MORE FROM ARGUELLES:

“The ancient Maya prophesied their own destruction. Therefore, within the prophecies of the Chilam Balam they laid the seeds of their own reconstruction – but not simply as Maya. The reconstruction had to be planetary, for their destruction in the sixteenth century was also an act of planetary consequence – the plunging of the entire world into the prison of artificial, mechanized time. The fulfillment of the prophecies along with the new dispensation of time (The Dreamspell 13-Moon Calendar) had to occur before the end of the cycle, 2012.”

“The Dreamspell Count based on the Gregorian calendar synchronization date of July 26, is a precise expression of the prophetic tradition of the Chilam Balam – the Jaguar priests of Lowland Yucatec Maya. The Quiche or Mayan long count represents the chronological order of time…as such, it is a linear expression of the Tzolkin…The purpose of the Chilam Balam Count was to establish a basis for understanding that there exists a synchronic order of time, completely apart from what is usually referred to as the Long Count, the linear count of days (BC 3114 – AD 2012). The synchronic order is complementary to this linear interpretation, but introduces the human to the radial order of the higher dimensions… The two counts actually constitute a prophectic alliance…There is no conflict…The Law of Time embraces both systems in the higher fourth-dimensional order of truth.”

FROM AUTHOR AT SITE:

“In terms of the specific Mayan connection to the Dreamspell, beyond the foundation of the 13:20 code, the Dreamspell also embodies a correlation to the Yucatec Mayan “Chilam Balam.” This is found in aspects such as the July 26th new year date, the specific year-bearers, the consequent 52-year pattern of Earth families, and even the omitting of the the leap-year day Feb 29th is based in the resurrection of this prophetic tradition. Because there was a long break in this Mayan tradition, this Wizard’s Count of the Dreamspell is known as “reformulated Chilam Balam,” for what was known in ancient times as “Jaguar Priests” is known in today’s world as “Earth Wizards!”

http://www.13moon.com/not_the_mayan_calendar.htm

MAYAN LEARNING LAB:

http://www.mayanmajix.com/lab_F1.html

MAYAN CROSS ASTROLOGY:

http://www.mayancross.com/

BASIS OF THE TZOLKIN:

http://www.mayanmajix.com/art_tzolkin_jag.html

CALENDAR WHEEL:

http://www.mayanmajix.com/tzolkin_lab.html

13 NUMBERS:

http://www.4-ahau.com/en/The_13_Numbers.html

20 GLYPHS:

http://www.4-ahau.com/en/The_20_Day_Glyphs.html

LORDS OF THE NIGHT:

http://www.4-ahau.com/en/Lords_of_Night.html

BURNER CYCLES:

http://www.4-ahau.com/en/Burner_days.html

FINAL WAVE DIAGRAM:

http://www.mayanmajix.com/tlc_9wave.jpg

9 STEPS DIAGRAM:

http://www.mayanmajix.com/9steps_eng_s.jpg

OVERVIEW OF MAYAN CALENDAR:

http://www.mayanmajix.com/art024p.pdf

FAQ1:

http://www.mayanmajix.com/faq_2011_lab.html

FAQ2:

http://www.mayanmajix.com/tzolkin.html

DEITY TIED TO CALENDAR:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Itzamna

MAYAN PEOPLE:

http://anthropology.si.edu/maya/index.html

WRITING IN MAYAN GLYPHS:

http://www.famsi.org/research/pitts/MayaGlyphsBook1Sect1.pdf

ARTICLE ON MAYAN SYMBOLS:

http://www.soulsofdistortion.nl/Galactic%20Butterfly.html

QUICHE-ENGLISH (with hidden connections to Akkadian/Hapiru/Arabic)

http://www.mayanmajix.com/quidic_complete.pdf

IAN XEL LUNGOLD VIDEO:

Mayan Calendar: 2012 Shift Ian Lungold Current Cycle of Changes

OTHER:

http://www.mayanmajix.com/intro_codex.html
http://www.mayanmajix.com/codex_oracle.pdf
http://www.mayanmajix.com/tzolkin01.html
http://www.mayanmajix.com/tzolkin2.html
http://www.mayanmajix.com/tzolkin3.html
http://www.mayanmajix.com/tzolkin4.html
http://www.mayanmajix.com/tzolkin9.html
http://www.mayanmajix.com/tzolkin10.html
http://www.mayanmajix.com/tzolkin14.html
http://www.mayanmajix.com/tzolkin15.html
http://www.mayanmajix.com/tzolkin16.html
http://www.mayanmajix.com/tzolkin17.html
http://www.mayanmajix.com/tzolkin19.html

ARTICLE ON THE HARMONIC MODULE:
http://www.13moon.com/nature’s%20cal%20tzolkin.htm

ARTICLE ON MAYAN PROPHECIES OF CHILAM BILAM:
http://www.maya-portal.net/blog/kenneth-johnson/mayan-prophecies-part-i

ARTICLES ATTACKING DREAMSPELL:

http://www.calleman.com/content/articles/differences.htm
http://www.calleman.com/content/articles/tzolkincount_or_dreamspell.htm
http://www.calleman.com/content/articles/hidden_agenda.htm

HOW TO FIND YOUR TRADITIONAL “FLATLAND” GLYPH:

http://www.maya-portal.net/tzolkin (beautiful site!)

~OR~

http://www.xzone.com.au/maya/login.php?querystring&ret_page=%2Fmaya%2F

HOW TO FIND YOUR DREAMSPELL GLYPH:

note please keep in mind the notion that the seals are Solar Masculine and the Tones Lunar Feminine!

http://www.lawoftime.org/decode/index.php
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Joseph Paul Duffey CORE INTRO TO 13 MOON, 13:20-

http://www.lawoftime.org/lawoftime/intro-to-the-synchronic-order.html

https://lawoftime.org/lawoftime/level1.html

https://lawoftime.org/lawoftime/level2.html

4 Galactic Time Lenses and the Holomind Perceiver Grid:

http://www.lawoftime.org/lawoftime/synchronotron-key-codes.html

the 13:20 Ratio Circle, core of the Timing Frequency and Riddle of Teletonon:

http://www.lawoftime.org/timeshipearth/articlesbyvv/earthwizards.html