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  • March 30, 2014 at 9:14 pm #42081
    perfectearth
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    I’m exploring the nature of individual identity in relation to collective will. My current internal paradigm is this; the ego, or personality, can be perceived as an amalgamation of smaller wills and the greater whole can be seen as an amalgamation of all of these individual wills.
    My problem is this; I’d like to take greater ownership of the experiences that I’m creating alongside this body of “mine”. The current working model for establishing the greatest direction is to scatter will to the wind, so to speak, to ‘give it all to grace’. This model, somewhere along the way, leaves me unsure as to where to land. It doesn’t feel true to work from a space that considers the ego as the establisher of direction, because the ego itself is established by many smaller wills, and these smaller wills are also established by the ego, too. It’s all an equal will, and thus the greater whole is all an equal will.
    The application of this ideology is this; the place of the ego is to form a bridge between these smaller wills, and alignment is within the realm of the personality’s “dominion”. I.E. The safest and most true place to land is in the give and receive of these smaller wills, and wherever alignment falls is where direction follows.
    This application feels beautiful to me, and comfortable. I, however, am feeling a greater need for responsibility over what I manifest. There’s a conflict between the sentiments of “I don’t own this” and “This is what I’m here creating.” The former sentiment, and the resulting application leaves me ungrounded and far too permeable to feel as if I’m safely and authentically living myself in the midst of modern society, although it feels beautiful to align with nature in this way.
    So, the resulting question is ‘how do I go about respecting my will and the collective will in this 3d manifestation, where the lingering fear is that if I deeply commune with the society in which I live, I’d be far too open to the pushing and pulling all around me?’
    Any thoughts on alignment, will, authentic living, or other contributing thoughts are welcome and appreciated.

    April 4, 2014 at 1:50 pm #42082
    frechtling
    Participant

    Sorry I don’t have anything to add to the conversation. I just wanted to say that whenever I see this post it makes me think of the Rush song…

    “I will choose the path that’s clear, I will choose free will!”

    April 4, 2014 at 1:50 pm #42084
    frechtling
    Participant

    Sorry I don’t have anything to add to the conversation. I just wanted to say that whenever I see this post it makes me think of the Rush song…

    “I will choose the path that’s clear, I will choose free will!”

    April 4, 2014 at 1:50 pm #42086
    frechtling
    Participant

    Sorry I don’t have anything to add to the conversation. I just wanted to say that whenever I see this post it makes me think of the Rush song…

    “I will choose the path that’s clear, I will choose free will!”

    April 4, 2014 at 1:50 pm #42088
    frechtling
    Participant

    Sorry I don’t have anything to add to the conversation. I just wanted to say that whenever I see this post it makes me think of the Rush song…

    “I will choose the path that’s clear, I will choose free will!”

    April 4, 2014 at 3:21 pm #42090
    ribosome777
    Participant

    there are different “wills” but how can any of it matter if you have no idea how you do anything, including “thought” to begin with?

    this is the point of neural acceleration, signal uptake
    the “will” of the adrenals is solar
    orange is the core color of jing

    it breaks, destroys, shatters, empowers

    the “will to live” is born, IMHO, in the heart of universes but has next to nothing to do with the “will to live” which is molten within the genital seeding of life… that one actually drives further…

    the heart is soft

    so what is the point?

    April 4, 2014 at 3:21 pm #42092
    ribosome777
    Participant

    there are different “wills” but how can any of it matter if you have no idea how you do anything, including “thought” to begin with?

    this is the point of neural acceleration, signal uptake
    the “will” of the adrenals is solar
    orange is the core color of jing

    it breaks, destroys, shatters, empowers

    the “will to live” is born, IMHO, in the heart of universes but has next to nothing to do with the “will to live” which is molten within the genital seeding of life… that one actually drives further…

    the heart is soft

    so what is the point?

    April 4, 2014 at 3:21 pm #42094
    ribosome777
    Participant

    there are different “wills” but how can any of it matter if you have no idea how you do anything, including “thought” to begin with?

    this is the point of neural acceleration, signal uptake
    the “will” of the adrenals is solar
    orange is the core color of jing

    it breaks, destroys, shatters, empowers

    the “will to live” is born, IMHO, in the heart of universes but has next to nothing to do with the “will to live” which is molten within the genital seeding of life… that one actually drives further…

    the heart is soft

    so what is the point?

    April 4, 2014 at 3:21 pm #42096
    ribosome777
    Participant

    there are different “wills” but how can any of it matter if you have no idea how you do anything, including “thought” to begin with?

    this is the point of neural acceleration, signal uptake
    the “will” of the adrenals is solar
    orange is the core color of jing

    it breaks, destroys, shatters, empowers

    the “will to live” is born, IMHO, in the heart of universes but has next to nothing to do with the “will to live” which is molten within the genital seeding of life… that one actually drives further…

    the heart is soft

    so what is the point?

    April 11, 2014 at 1:20 am #42098
    Steven
    Moderator

    Whatever arises, arises.
    The Tao is infinitely creative, can not be controlled, and can not be predicted.
    As scenarios outside of yourself arise, recognize that–how these intersect in your personal life–you take no ownership of.

    The only thing you take ownership of, are the free-will choices you make in reaction to these scenarios that arise. When you make such free-will choices, they will trigger subsequent reactions, containing a degree of unpredictability . . . sometimes large, sometimes small. This is due to the fact that other people also have the ability to make free-will choices in any given moment that will not follow your exact logic . . . this along with the inherent variability and creativity of the Tao that does not involve any obvious free-will choices! Therefore, after making any free-will choice, it is important to divorce one’s attachment to any hoped-for outcome. You only have the power of choice; you do not have the power of outcome. Whatever occurs, occurs.

    It is not about taking greater ownership for what ends up getting created: that’s ultimately unpredictable. It’s about taking greater ownership of your own ability to make free-will choices as scenarios present themselves to you in the present moment. This is not from the perspective of needing to spend more time/energy/qi trying to come up with the “right choice” (there is no such thing), but from the perspective of recognizing to a greater degree the actual number of free-will choices that you do have . . . ones that are often not chosen consciously . . . but instead done in a habitual/reactionary way

    On any given day, much of what we do involves being in reaction to things that arise. So, on any given day, look at the reactions that you find yourself in (where you feel you don’t have a choice), and recognize that there is indeed a choice, but you’ve already pre-selected it. Then, if these choices don’t resonate with you, make a conscious decision to choose differently, and divorce yourself from the outcome. Attaching yourself to the outcome is crippling, because if the outcome ends up being “undesirable”, this can create a destructive subconscious training that reduces your ability to make free choices in the future (e.g. feeling “you *have* to do XXX” and “this is *my* responsibility”). These are things that tend to put us more on “auto-pilot” and this sort of false ownership of things that are not–and never were–in your control to begin with . . . they decrease your ability to make free-will choices.

    As you develop the ability to recognize more and more free-will choices, and then subsequently make these choices from the truest aspect of “who you are”, you will develop more self-awareness and also a deeper appreciation for the liberty that you do have.

    >>>where the lingering fear is that
    >>>if I deeply commune with the society
    >>>in which I live, I’d be far too open
    >>>to the pushing and pulling all around me?’

    This is the importance of getting adequately grounded . . . and its secondary effects of developing strong boundaries. The reason for this is that when “the pushing and the pulling” comes, when people come into the picture “wanting” certain things, you can have the self-awareness to recognize that these things are *their* wants, not yours. This allows you to recognize that you have a free choice. Sometimes you will want to make the choice that they want, because it resonates with you; other times, you will not. In those latter times, you will have the self-awareness and the strength to make your free-will choice be in opposition to what they want. Moreover, in these cases, you will have a stronger ability to remain divorced from the outcome of that choice.

    This is why previously on this forum I’ve stressed the importance of grounding practices. By getting more deeply grounded, you will develop the ability to recognize a higher number of free-will choices in relation to engagement with others.

    Qi,
    Steven

    April 11, 2014 at 1:20 am #42100
    Steven
    Moderator

    Whatever arises, arises.
    The Tao is infinitely creative, can not be controlled, and can not be predicted.
    As scenarios outside of yourself arise, recognize that–how these intersect in your personal life–you take no ownership of.

    The only thing you take ownership of, are the free-will choices you make in reaction to these scenarios that arise. When you make such free-will choices, they will trigger subsequent reactions, containing a degree of unpredictability . . . sometimes large, sometimes small. This is due to the fact that other people also have the ability to make free-will choices in any given moment that will not follow your exact logic . . . this along with the inherent variability and creativity of the Tao that does not involve any obvious free-will choices! Therefore, after making any free-will choice, it is important to divorce one’s attachment to any hoped-for outcome. You only have the power of choice; you do not have the power of outcome. Whatever occurs, occurs.

    It is not about taking greater ownership for what ends up getting created: that’s ultimately unpredictable. It’s about taking greater ownership of your own ability to make free-will choices as scenarios present themselves to you in the present moment. This is not from the perspective of needing to spend more time/energy/qi trying to come up with the “right choice” (there is no such thing), but from the perspective of recognizing to a greater degree the actual number of free-will choices that you do have . . . ones that are often not chosen consciously . . . but instead done in a habitual/reactionary way

    On any given day, much of what we do involves being in reaction to things that arise. So, on any given day, look at the reactions that you find yourself in (where you feel you don’t have a choice), and recognize that there is indeed a choice, but you’ve already pre-selected it. Then, if these choices don’t resonate with you, make a conscious decision to choose differently, and divorce yourself from the outcome. Attaching yourself to the outcome is crippling, because if the outcome ends up being “undesirable”, this can create a destructive subconscious training that reduces your ability to make free choices in the future (e.g. feeling “you *have* to do XXX” and “this is *my* responsibility”). These are things that tend to put us more on “auto-pilot” and this sort of false ownership of things that are not–and never were–in your control to begin with . . . they decrease your ability to make free-will choices.

    As you develop the ability to recognize more and more free-will choices, and then subsequently make these choices from the truest aspect of “who you are”, you will develop more self-awareness and also a deeper appreciation for the liberty that you do have.

    >>>where the lingering fear is that
    >>>if I deeply commune with the society
    >>>in which I live, I’d be far too open
    >>>to the pushing and pulling all around me?’

    This is the importance of getting adequately grounded . . . and its secondary effects of developing strong boundaries. The reason for this is that when “the pushing and the pulling” comes, when people come into the picture “wanting” certain things, you can have the self-awareness to recognize that these things are *their* wants, not yours. This allows you to recognize that you have a free choice. Sometimes you will want to make the choice that they want, because it resonates with you; other times, you will not. In those latter times, you will have the self-awareness and the strength to make your free-will choice be in opposition to what they want. Moreover, in these cases, you will have a stronger ability to remain divorced from the outcome of that choice.

    This is why previously on this forum I’ve stressed the importance of grounding practices. By getting more deeply grounded, you will develop the ability to recognize a higher number of free-will choices in relation to engagement with others.

    Qi,
    Steven

    April 11, 2014 at 1:20 am #42102
    Steven
    Moderator

    Whatever arises, arises.
    The Tao is infinitely creative, can not be controlled, and can not be predicted.
    As scenarios outside of yourself arise, recognize that–how these intersect in your personal life–you take no ownership of.

    The only thing you take ownership of, are the free-will choices you make in reaction to these scenarios that arise. When you make such free-will choices, they will trigger subsequent reactions, containing a degree of unpredictability . . . sometimes large, sometimes small. This is due to the fact that other people also have the ability to make free-will choices in any given moment that will not follow your exact logic . . . this along with the inherent variability and creativity of the Tao that does not involve any obvious free-will choices! Therefore, after making any free-will choice, it is important to divorce one’s attachment to any hoped-for outcome. You only have the power of choice; you do not have the power of outcome. Whatever occurs, occurs.

    It is not about taking greater ownership for what ends up getting created: that’s ultimately unpredictable. It’s about taking greater ownership of your own ability to make free-will choices as scenarios present themselves to you in the present moment. This is not from the perspective of needing to spend more time/energy/qi trying to come up with the “right choice” (there is no such thing), but from the perspective of recognizing to a greater degree the actual number of free-will choices that you do have . . . ones that are often not chosen consciously . . . but instead done in a habitual/reactionary way

    On any given day, much of what we do involves being in reaction to things that arise. So, on any given day, look at the reactions that you find yourself in (where you feel you don’t have a choice), and recognize that there is indeed a choice, but you’ve already pre-selected it. Then, if these choices don’t resonate with you, make a conscious decision to choose differently, and divorce yourself from the outcome. Attaching yourself to the outcome is crippling, because if the outcome ends up being “undesirable”, this can create a destructive subconscious training that reduces your ability to make free choices in the future (e.g. feeling “you *have* to do XXX” and “this is *my* responsibility”). These are things that tend to put us more on “auto-pilot” and this sort of false ownership of things that are not–and never were–in your control to begin with . . . they decrease your ability to make free-will choices.

    As you develop the ability to recognize more and more free-will choices, and then subsequently make these choices from the truest aspect of “who you are”, you will develop more self-awareness and also a deeper appreciation for the liberty that you do have.

    >>>where the lingering fear is that
    >>>if I deeply commune with the society
    >>>in which I live, I’d be far too open
    >>>to the pushing and pulling all around me?’

    This is the importance of getting adequately grounded . . . and its secondary effects of developing strong boundaries. The reason for this is that when “the pushing and the pulling” comes, when people come into the picture “wanting” certain things, you can have the self-awareness to recognize that these things are *their* wants, not yours. This allows you to recognize that you have a free choice. Sometimes you will want to make the choice that they want, because it resonates with you; other times, you will not. In those latter times, you will have the self-awareness and the strength to make your free-will choice be in opposition to what they want. Moreover, in these cases, you will have a stronger ability to remain divorced from the outcome of that choice.

    This is why previously on this forum I’ve stressed the importance of grounding practices. By getting more deeply grounded, you will develop the ability to recognize a higher number of free-will choices in relation to engagement with others.

    Qi,
    Steven

    April 11, 2014 at 1:20 am #42104
    Steven
    Moderator

    Whatever arises, arises.
    The Tao is infinitely creative, can not be controlled, and can not be predicted.
    As scenarios outside of yourself arise, recognize that–how these intersect in your personal life–you take no ownership of.

    The only thing you take ownership of, are the free-will choices you make in reaction to these scenarios that arise. When you make such free-will choices, they will trigger subsequent reactions, containing a degree of unpredictability . . . sometimes large, sometimes small. This is due to the fact that other people also have the ability to make free-will choices in any given moment that will not follow your exact logic . . . this along with the inherent variability and creativity of the Tao that does not involve any obvious free-will choices! Therefore, after making any free-will choice, it is important to divorce one’s attachment to any hoped-for outcome. You only have the power of choice; you do not have the power of outcome. Whatever occurs, occurs.

    It is not about taking greater ownership for what ends up getting created: that’s ultimately unpredictable. It’s about taking greater ownership of your own ability to make free-will choices as scenarios present themselves to you in the present moment. This is not from the perspective of needing to spend more time/energy/qi trying to come up with the “right choice” (there is no such thing), but from the perspective of recognizing to a greater degree the actual number of free-will choices that you do have . . . ones that are often not chosen consciously . . . but instead done in a habitual/reactionary way

    On any given day, much of what we do involves being in reaction to things that arise. So, on any given day, look at the reactions that you find yourself in (where you feel you don’t have a choice), and recognize that there is indeed a choice, but you’ve already pre-selected it. Then, if these choices don’t resonate with you, make a conscious decision to choose differently, and divorce yourself from the outcome. Attaching yourself to the outcome is crippling, because if the outcome ends up being “undesirable”, this can create a destructive subconscious training that reduces your ability to make free choices in the future (e.g. feeling “you *have* to do XXX” and “this is *my* responsibility”). These are things that tend to put us more on “auto-pilot” and this sort of false ownership of things that are not–and never were–in your control to begin with . . . they decrease your ability to make free-will choices.

    As you develop the ability to recognize more and more free-will choices, and then subsequently make these choices from the truest aspect of “who you are”, you will develop more self-awareness and also a deeper appreciation for the liberty that you do have.

    >>>where the lingering fear is that
    >>>if I deeply commune with the society
    >>>in which I live, I’d be far too open
    >>>to the pushing and pulling all around me?’

    This is the importance of getting adequately grounded . . . and its secondary effects of developing strong boundaries. The reason for this is that when “the pushing and the pulling” comes, when people come into the picture “wanting” certain things, you can have the self-awareness to recognize that these things are *their* wants, not yours. This allows you to recognize that you have a free choice. Sometimes you will want to make the choice that they want, because it resonates with you; other times, you will not. In those latter times, you will have the self-awareness and the strength to make your free-will choice be in opposition to what they want. Moreover, in these cases, you will have a stronger ability to remain divorced from the outcome of that choice.

    This is why previously on this forum I’ve stressed the importance of grounding practices. By getting more deeply grounded, you will develop the ability to recognize a higher number of free-will choices in relation to engagement with others.

    Qi,
    Steven

    April 11, 2014 at 1:33 am #42106
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    April 11, 2014 at 1:33 am #42108
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