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Sourcexc – I realized that I had been using the creation cycle in the 6 healing sounds, but for the most part I have not been with the inner smile. Chia does not use the creative cycle, and although I adapted my IS after learning Winn’s, I did not start doing this. After getting more into the fusion “mindset” I have been using the creation cycle in the front line, and actually visualizing the “pearls.”
Steven – I realize you can’t “teach” fusion in a book let alone a web forum… You did answer all of my quesions though. I have noticed that Chia is adding “cosmic” to all of the new books, “cosmic inner smile,” “cosmic healing sounds,” etc. Seems like adding complexity is not the way to go with these practices, but Chia must know what he’s doing…
Ribosome and C_howdy – sorry guys you always seems to take threads off on a strange tangent…
I thought I’d add some links for those interested in what I was referring to in my original post:
Clearing the Confusion over Fusion, Winn Article
Boston Healing Tao Fusion of the Five Elements 1/2 CD
Winn’s Pangu Mystical Qigong on YouTube(hopefully my html works…)
A few follow-up comments ON THE INNER SMILE:
The (classical) Inner Smile does not follow the creation cycle. It follows the control cycle starting with the heart (on the front line): Heart, Lungs, Liver, Spleen, Kidneys.
In later years, Master Chia started teaching it following the creation cycle. However, this is not consistent from workshop to workshop. You go to a different workshop, and you might get a different method. Michael also varies what he does as well . . . both of them have their own creativity.
PERSONALLY, I stick with the original method of following the control cycle, as I feel it best exemplifies what the purpose of the practice is (in my view).
The Creation Cycle is about manifestation. It is about the changing nature of world, the evolutionary force of creation. The Control Cycle is about balance and stasis. It is about the 5 elements keeping each other in check and in harmony.
But what is the Inner Smile about?
In my opinion, the Inner Smile is about unconditional acceptance of who you are.
To me, acceptance does not carry with it any implication that you need to change, that somehow things are not OK the way they are. Therefore, I do not feel the Creation Cycle to be the right approach here. Inner Smile is NOT about trying to encourage growth; it is about accepting what is . . . what is currently. You can’t truly grow if you don’t fully accept what you already are. Thus, to me, the Control Cycle seems like the right place to begin, and I stick with the original practice as it was originally taught.After you’ve released any judgments from the Inner Smile, and the organs begin to relax, then they will begin to release their negative qi. Thus you can begin the evolutionary process through detox in the Six Healing Sounds via the Creation Cycle.
Now if you are trying to process emotions, ala Fusion, then I agree to have creation cycle first . . . helping them to feel nourished and supported is a beneficial strengthening exercise prior to doing the heavy work of negative emotional recycling.
But the Inner Smile has a different purpose in my view.
Inner Smile is not about processing.
Inner Smile is about accepting.All my personal view, of course.
Qi,
Steven>>>I have noticed that Chia is adding “cosmic”
>>>to all of the new books, “cosmic inner smile,”
>>>”cosmic healing sounds,” etc. Seems like adding
>>>complexity is not the way to go with these
>>>practices, but Chia must know what he’s doing…You have to remember that all M. Chia DOES, is do workshops.
Year-round, all over the world.
Most of the time, the organizers ask him to do either
1. Basics
2. Healing Love
3. FusionCan’t fault the organizers, as they hope to get the most
attendees. You are going to get more people in a course if
you offer it as a beginning class, with no prerequisites.However, this is boring to M. Chia, and no one can really blame him.
After teaching nothing but the basics almost every day, for years
and years, it will all seem really simple to you. It will also
seem like you could add other stuff to the practice to make it more
exciting and juice it up a bit. Fine for you and your individual
practice, but not so great for the students. I’ve had this experience
myself if I teach the same math course too many times in a row. I start
adding a few extra things here or there that are fun for me, but
not necessarily a good idea from a student perspective as they typically
already have enough to do without that. That’s why I typically try
to switch to a new course after a few repetitions. But Master Chia
doesn’t really have that option, as even if he asks the coordinators
to do a more advanced course, they usually schedule a basics course
anyway. It’s tricky, because they schedule an advanced course, then
they may not get the student signups, which not only disappoints them
but Master Chia as well.And, of course, there is the subtle expectation that this is
“the Master”, and it should be a high level course. Most people
intuitively probably feel they could get a basic practice from
one of the other HT instructors. But if they go see him, they don’t want
him to hold back. He’s become kind of a legend, so if people go
to see him, they want to be blown away. And believe me, he doesn’t
disappoint. 😉But that doesn’t necessarily mean that these changes are better.
When you are practicing on your own, you need a simple practice
that works.So I’ll stand by what I said earlier.
I think his changes make it fun for long-time practitioners, but as
far as making them global changes to the basic practices, I disagree.Qi,
StevenOld mother Hubbard went to the cupboard,
To fetch her poor doggie a bone.
When she bent over, Rover drove her.
He had a bone of his own.
-popular English nursery rhyme13 patch: A small patch, sometimes diamond-shaped, sometimes square, meant to denote the thirteen steps to the gallows in capital punishment protocol. It means that a brother would hang rather than betray the club. Police, not knowing any better, used to say this patch stands for the letter M, referring marijuana; then it was M for meth. Some said it meant M for murder. All of this is wrong. Even some of the bikers who wear it have no idea where it comes from.
-ALEX CAINE, The Fat Mxxxxxxn-The Bloody Rise of the Bxxxxxxs Motorcycle ClubIf you need to penetrate into the mountains, make yourself look like a lumberjack by wearing clothes with a tear in them, putting on an axe, and securing a long rope on your waist. When going into a grass field, imitate a field worker by putting a sickle and a rake on your waist to deceive people. It is a same in the wild field. When you go around in rice fields and vegetable fields, copy a farmer by carrying a hoe, a plough, and so on, and by putting on a straw raincoat or straw hat. Blend in with other people. When going to a place around a river or the seaside…
-The Secret Traditions of the Shinobi-Hattori Hanzo’s Shinobi Hiden and Other Ninja Scrolls, ed. and transl. by Antony Cummins and Yoshie MinamiI have had now few months this ‘Basic Practices of the Universal Healing Tao’ so some time have been also used writing books besides giving workshops.
Very nice collection because some material I haven’t had before.
And it really gives good overview of the first formal half.
But can doing workshops be harmful?
Having followed also what happens with Bihar School of Yoga, their have started to turn more and more towards bhakti/karma yoga (…last century was for hatha & raja y, this century for bhakti y).
So for some erasing personal history, becoming accessible to power, being inaccessible etc. would be especially important for some or…?
Anyway these Taoist materials and practices seem to be in their own way quite complicated for the most students in very very rudimentary form.
HOWDY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8On7yCU1EjQ (eratosthenes)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbYj7ZyqjYY (fritob)
>>>I have had now few months this ‘Basic Practices
>>>of the Universal Healing Tao’ so some time have
>>>been also used writing books besides giving workshops.
>>>Very nice collection because some material
>>>I haven’t had before.
>>>And it really gives good overview
>>>of the first formal half.A lot of his books are not “written” by him.
Most are written by senior instructors / devoted students of his.
They do the work, and then he looks over the final product and makes adjustments at the end. This is a mutually beneficial arrangement, as it allows him to put out many more books than what he could do otherwise, and it benefits the people who write them because of the learning they receive through the writing (and in the case of the book being listed with a double author, they might receive larger commissions due to the greater sales by having M. Chia’s name on the book). Sometimes he tells people what he would like to see in the book as a general idea, and then he just lets them put it together . . . either from them writing it themselves, or simply cutting-and-pasting from the many other books that he already has in print.
The point is, is that it is a little bit of a misconception that he is spending much time writing books.>>>But can doing workshops be harmful?
The only time there is any concern with this, is if someone is taking a class without the proper prerequisites–the two most common examples of this being someone taking an advanced alchemy class without having done the prior coursework, or someone taking a Healing Love course as a complete beginner without having any training in the microcosmic orbit or basic grounding. Then sometimes the student will find the transformational energy shifts to be too much to handle. So certainly the student should exhibit a little common sense before jumping into any kind of advanced training without proper preparation.
>>>Anyway these Taoist materials and practices
>>>seem to be in their own way quite complicated
>>>for the most students in very very rudimentary form.This is often the problem with Chia’s books and coursework. He wants to put everything in there and not leave anything out. But this is not the optimal way to learn either (in my opinion). Simple practices, that are not so detailed and complicated, are really the way to begin. You can always add depth and complexity later on. This is actually one of the major advantages to Michael Winn’s coursework. It is logically and linearly structured, not too much and not too little, gradually building up as you feel comfortable and want to add more.
The major problem here is that people often get M. Chia’s books or go to his workshops feeling really excited. And this might last even one or two years. But then when they have trouble putting together a personal practice, something simple that works and they can grow, they don’t know what to do. The huge body of material and lack of direction as to what to do causes people to lose interest and fall away.
This is why I recommend Michael’s stuff.
Qi,
StevenTramps and hobos are commonly lumped together, but see themselves as sharply differentiated. A hobo or bo is simply a migratory laborer; he may take some longish holidays, but sooner or later he returns to work. A tramp never works if it can be avoided; he simply travels. Apart from either is the bum, who neither works nor travels, save when propelled to motion by the police.
-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HoboGrowing up I was well familiar with the term 1%er. Only for us it had a different meeting. The biker I knew would use the term HD 1% referring to Harley Davidson motorcycles. To him, 1% meant cream of the crop not bottom of the barrel. It was a noble and elite status. Not everyone rode a Harley and not everyone was a real biker.
-http://gangstersout.blogspot.fi/2010/04/what-about-other-1.htmlAnother root to the Beggar’s style is their various interpretations of Taoism. By the time of the Western Han Dynasty (about 206 BC to 7 AD), Emperor Wen promoted the philosophy of Taoism, which was founded by Lao-Tse and Chuang-Tse. Born out of the Warring States era, as a philosophy, Taoism discussed the principles of leading a peaceful life by discarding all human desires and worries. Taoism looked to the regular cyclic patterns exhibited in nature and in the universe and implied that humanity was merely a part of these regular cycles. Thus, one should be content by simply being and shouldn’t unnaturally strive to make things happen, instead one should become one with the cyclings of life.
-SALVATORE CANZONIERI, Beggar’s Style Kung FuImmediately following the creation of the Seven Spirits of the Havona Circuits the Infinite Spirit brought into being the vast corps of Solitary Messengers. There is no part of the universal creation which is pre-existent to the Solitary Messengers except Paradise and the Havona circuits; they have functioned throughout the grand universe from near eternity. They are fundamental to the divine technique of the Infinite Spirit for self-revelation to, and personal contact with, the far-flung creations of time and space.
-THE URANTIA BOOK, Paper 23(256.3) 23:1.1Sorry, but in my opinion Hobo practitioners don’t have problems with more complicated style of practice, because hobos do almost whatever they like unlike almost all others.
Books are for the present moment very good study material if they are well enough written and illustrated.
HOWDY
Ps. I was mainly concerned if teaching others, especially when certain subjects are at hand, is harmfull for the teacher.
http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/secret-life-radovan-karadzic/
The Secret Life of Radovan Karadzic, airs ahead of the imminent resumption of Karadzic’s trial at the International Criminal Court in The Hague.
Rageh Omaar travels to Serbia and Bosnia to investigate the decade-long period the former president of the Republika Srpska spent in hiding and examines his legacy in present-day Bosnia and beyond.
During a decade on the run, he had cultivated a long white beard and called himself Dragan Dabic. Mr Karadzic, 63, lived in a “very convincing” way using false papers. He even gave public lectures and was a regular health magazine contributor.
Mr Karadzic is reported to have frequently played the Serbian gusle – a one-stringed instrument – in the bar, while singing songs. Masquerading as an expert in human quantum energy, the fugitive was so confident in his disguise he even had his own website, and would give out business cards during alternative medicine lectures.
He reportedly had a girlfriend – a brunette in her forties known only as Mila – who he said was an associate at his alternative medicine practice.
A neighbour described Mr Karadzic as a polite man who always said hello. Billed as Dabic, Spiritual Explorer, Mr Karadzic gave lectures comparing meditation and silent techniques practised by Orthodox monks. He spoke in Belgrade, and also in the town of Smederevo, east of the capital. Mila frequently accompanied him on speaking engagements.
>>>Sorry, but in my opinion Hobo practitioners
>>>don’t have problems with more complicated
>>>style of practice, because hobos do almost
>>>whatever they like unlike almost all others.Not saying that there are not some that can function this way, but again, this is not indicative of the general audience.
As a teacher, it is always important to be mindful of the audience to whom you are teaching to provide the most effective learning experience.
>>>Ps. I was mainly concerned if teaching others,
>>>especially when certain subjects are at hand,
>>>is harmfull for the teacher.Topics that are delicate, need to be handled delicately.
And, again, consider the audience.
If certain types of material may be sensitive for certain folks, either it is not the right audience, or appropriate disclaimers and/or safe exits need to be made for such folks out of compassion to their sensitivity. This is part of the responsibility of teaching . . . to have a degree of common sense with regard to what to teach, how you teach it, and whether (or not) it is clientele appropriate.If you are asking about whether teaching workshops can create negative personal effects, it is about as a teacher being able to maintain appropriate boundaries, and not let the behavior of students throw off your personal center.
In total, it is about being sensitive to the needs of the students, without taking on their issues personally. This requires a certain level of maturity from the instructor.
Qi,
StevenYes, but it’s reasonable to be aware that (almost) all successful Chinese practitioners also have been hobo like.
So there is a real gap between conventional society and that other orientation.
But let’s not be too serious.
HOWDY
http://en.daoinfo.org/wiki/Zhang_Sanfeng
Zhang Sanfeng was called ‘Sloppy Zhang’ ( åååÝ Zhang Lata ) since he was careless about his appearance. It was said that Zhang Sanfeng was ‘well built, with a tortoise-shaped figure and a crane-shaped back, big ears and round eyes, and a thick and long beard and whiskers. He always wore a Daoist cassock with a palm-bark rain cape. When he had a meal, he could eat a lot, but sometimes he ate only once every few days, or ate nothing for a few months. He was very learned, capable of remembering whatever books he read, and of writing poems and essays. He was very casual and free from restraint, with the manner of immortals. There were quite a few legends about his life experience and his background. One of them said that he was born in the Jin Dynasty. There was a story which said that at the end of the Song Dynasty, there was a rebellion, so Emperor Huizong called on him, and Zhang Sanfeng once beat or killed one hundred rebels with one of his fists. Another story said that he could survive by abstaining from grains, move as fast as immortals, and come back to life after death. All his life he was immune to reputation and wealth, and fond of pure cultivation in seclusion. According to his testimony, he was once a county magistrate, quit his position and left his family some time later, and then became a Daoist of the Complete Perfection Tradition ( È«ÕæµÀ Quanzhen Dao ). Once he ran into the Perfect Man of the Fire Dragon ( »ðýÕæÈË Huolong Zhenren ), who offered him an elixir formula. Wandering to Mt. Wudang with his disciples, Zhang built a cottage for cultivation of Dao after cutting down the bushes and disposing debris and rubble. He predicted: ‘The mount will be flourishing some day” and told his disciples ‘to carefully preserve the transmission of Dao carefully’. Soon he left Mt. Wudang and wandered to Sichuan to visit the Perfect Men and the historical sites of Mt.Qingcheng and Mt.Heming. He also authored a treatise on Taiji shadowboxing ( Ì«OÈ Taijiquan ) as a method to cultivate Dao and keep fit, which is still very popular even today.
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