April 28, 2010 at 1:40 am #34079
I do practise the fusion still. 🙂
It has always been easy for me to connect to the organs true the inner smile. But to do it with the six healing sounds has been more difficult, even though I have done some progress in the last year.
In my fusion according to Yudeloves practises, I do it as follow:
Building the front pakua
Connect to the organs true the healing sounds, one at a time.
Let the organ owerflow of it energy. (Mostly focus on the colors here)
Create the sphere
Move the energy, color, to the sphere
Kidneys and heart and rotate it in to the yin/yang in the pakua
Liver and Lungs The same
Spleen Into tan tien sphere
Then I rotate the pakuas yin and yang symbols in the center and draw in enrgies to mix and fuse them in the pakua. Here I mostly focus on the heat/cold and moist and dry sensetion of the organs more than the colors.
Have noticed that it is better to let the process do itself, than to consiously choose how much of each organ energy you want to mix. If you let the process go by itself, then the energies mix and blend by themselves to a more perfect ballance.
Have noticed that the total energy in the pakua gets stronger this way.
But to my quiestion.
I was thinking about some therapy I have done. What do you say in English when you do theraphy by painting? I did paint my mother, and she was quite monstruous and not connected to the earth. There was also a symbolism of my illness in that way that here body was blue=cold, and she was moving over the earth, not grounded. But there was also the energy solution, with some red=hot energy balls outside of the hands and under the foots, and I don’t remember for shore, I guess one ower the head also.
My associations to this was that if the fear she=me did feel should wanich then she should be connected to the fire balls and getting warm, she should also fell down to the ground. And softly be standing there.
This picture was what I was thinking about. Then I did think about the fusion. I think my fusion does work, but I wonder how could you be able to connect to deeper emotions in the organs and so to say solve them.
I feel that my fusion is not wery deep roted in my emotions. Or at least that there shouls be a possibility to go much deeper.
What is the seecret to be able to connect to deeper emotional issues in your life and from sertain periods of your life, and be able to use them in your practise?
Sincerely SDApril 28, 2010 at 2:40 pm #34080
Michael’s method of doing Fusion is far more
effective for connecting deeply with your emotions
than the classical M. Chia method. You might want
to explore that.
As to other emotional techniques, let me refer you
to a recent post of mine discussing this very topic.
StevenApril 29, 2010 at 9:33 pm #34082
Dear Swedich Dragon:
I heard you were wondering what ever happened to me?
Well I keep a pretty low profile but I decided I wanted to see what’s happening out in Taoist World.
I did some posting on TaoBums-yes that was me and now I’m here. For some reason I had a lot of trouble signing up and the logon wouldn’t accept my old username and password. After trying every dumb name I could think of, I was finally able to register as Little Bo Peep. But don’t let that fool you. Some people think I’m the Big Bad Wolf. Go ask Michael.
Eric YudeloveApril 30, 2010 at 12:42 am #34084
Hello Swedich Dragon:
I stopped in to say hello to you. I’m still around, although I became something of a hermit, spending 1/2 my time in the White Mountains of New Hampshire. I did some posts on TaoBums about Beginning Taoist practices. I decided to come here after many years and see what was happening. It’s nice to see all the activity.
Nowadays I use a crystal ball while doing most of my meditating unless i’m out in my Taoist Rock Garden, it’s an old Taoist tradition-excellent for getting the tear out which helps to cure all latent ailments.
See You Around,
Eric YudeloveApril 30, 2010 at 9:45 am #34086
Hello My Healing Tao Friends:
It’s been a long time since I was last here, but I wanted to let you know that I’ve at least temporarily come down from the mountain and would be happy to answer any questions you might have.
Blessings and Good Health,
Eric YudeloveApril 30, 2010 at 12:13 pm #34088
It’s always great to have another
high level practitioner here on the forum.
SApril 30, 2010 at 12:32 pm #34090
Since I imagine that many people on this forum
are probably more familiar with the standard Healing
Tao curriculum–or at least, Michael Winn’s adaptation
of it–maybe it would be good if you could briefly explain
how your system differs from the “standard Healing Tao
curriculum”, and the relative advantages/disadvantages
of your system vs. the Healing Tao method, as you see it.
StevenApril 30, 2010 at 4:39 pm #34092
I like your name Little Bo Peep!
I don´t know what reasons Michael has to see you as a Big Bad Wolf, but perhaps that will be explained if I look at your, communication, that migth be in the future.
I am the one that is breathing fire from a dragon mounths in the stomach!
SDApril 30, 2010 at 9:14 pm #34094May 3, 2010 at 1:49 am #34096
To answer your question, the differences start at the very beginning of the practice where I teach about staring at the tip of the nose. The following is a piece I had previously post on TaoBums.
First of all as a reference point of how to start the practice, it makes it easy to begin. It is an excellent method for reestablishing the balance in your eye and facial muscles, which in time leads to a better left brain-right brain balance. Overlooking the necessity of reestablishing this balance could continue to be a constant source of distraction to your meditation, although you would probably be unaware of the source of this distraction. With a little practice, the technique should feel quite comfortable.
Once staring at the tip of the nose becomes the starting point of your meditation, you will virtually instantly go into a meditative state when you do it. It has a real quality of closing out the external world and bring you inside. It also is a great tool for quieting internal dialog.
Even when I am dealing with the external world, simply putting my awareness on the tip of my nose results in an instant shift of consciousness that can literally be felt throughout my body, as well as having a general calming and focusing effect.
There is not that much in the available literature that directly tells you why to do it, it mostly just tells you to start there. It is the starting off point for learning what is variously referred to as The Backward Flowing Method in “The Secret of the Golden Flower”, Silent Sitting in “Tien Tao Chi Kung Internal Work”, I call it Sitting and Stilling the Mind in “100 Days”.
In “Tien Tao Chi Kung-Introduction to Chi Kung” from the Chinese National Chi Kung Institute it states that staring at the tip of the nose is a start off spot “to awaken the heat sensation of chi energy” and will lead to an increased ability to concentrate “on the lower abdomen area, cultivating the positive fire.”
Charles Luk in “Taoist Yoga” states, “Before sitting in meditation, it is important to put an end to all rising thoughts and to loosen garments and belt to relax the body and avoid interferring with the free circulation of blood. After sitting the body should be (senseless) like a log and the heart (mind) unstirred like cold ashes. The eyes should look down and fix on the tip of the nose; they should not be shut completely to avoid dullness and confusion; neither should they be wide open to prevent spirit from wandering outside. They should be fixed on the tip of the nose with one’s attention concentrated on the spot between them; and in time the light of vitality (chi) will manifest. This is the best way to get rid of all thoughts at the start when preparing the elixer of immortality.”
“The Secret of the Golden Flower” states:
“The two founders of Buddhism and Taoism have taught that one should look at the tip of one’s nose. But they did not mean that one should fasten one’s thoughts to the tip of the nose. Neither did they mean that, while the eyes were looking at the tip of the nose, the thoughts should be concentrated on the yellow middle. Wherever the eye looks, the heart is directed also. How can it be directed at the same time upward (yellow middle) and downward (tip of the nose), or alternatively, so that it is now up, now down? All that means confusing the finger which points to the moon with the moon itself.
What then is really meant by this? The expression ‘tip of the nose’ is very cleverly chosen. The nose must serve the eyes as a guide-line. If one is not guided by the nose, either one opens wide the eyes and looks into the distance, so that the nose is not seen, or the lids shut too much, so that the eyes close, and again the nose is not seen. But when the eyes are open too wide, one makes the mistake of directing them outward, thereby one is easily distracted. If they are closed too much, one makes the mistake of letting them turn inward, whereby one easily sinks into a dreamy reverie. Only when the eyelids are lowered properly halfway is the tip of the nose seen in just the right way. Therefore it is taken as a guide-line. The main thing is to lower the eyelids in the right way, and then allow the light to stream in of itself; without effort, wanting the light to stream in concentratedly. Looking at the tip of the nose serves only as the beginning of the inner concentration, so that the eyes are brought into the right direction for looking , and then are held to the guide-line: after that, one can let it be. That is the way that a mason hangs up a plumb-line. As soon as he has hung it up, he guides his work by it without continually bothering himself to look at the plumb-line.”
“One looks with both eyes at the tip of the nose, sits upright and in a comfortable position, and holds the heart to the center in the midst of conditions. In Taoism it is called the yellow middle, in Buddhism the center of the midst of conditions. The two are the same. It does not necessarily mean the middle of the head. It is only a matter of fixing one’s thinking on the point which lies exactly between the two eyes. Then all is well. The light streams in of it’s own accord. It is not necessary to direct the attention to the central castle. In these few words the most important thing is contained.”
I describe these methods in detail in the first few weeks of “100 Days”. I add as a starting point staring at a spot before the eyes before drawing the concentration to the tip of the nose, this is for the purpose of helping beginners, I don’t think it is essential, but it really does work well.
However, a much more elaborate procedure is found in Tien Tao Chi Kung Internal Work. Here one 1st) Stares at a point 6 feet directly in front of you, 2) Shifts and stops the eyes at a point on a 45 degree angle down and in front of you at a distance of 3 feet, 3) Shifting and fixing the eyes at a point directly between your feet and 4) Concentrating the eyes on the tip of the nose.
Aside from it’s initial discomfort, the main drawback to staring at the tip of one’s nose, is that it is probably something you would not want to be seen doing in public. As Charles Luk puts it, “you will look like a stupid man.”
Well you might look stupid, but you will be performing one of the most intelligent tasks on the planet.
During my years studying with Master Chia, I often wondered why he never taught this method. Finally about 3 years after he named me a master(he gave me a Certificate by the way), he finally taught this method as part of his ultimate level of teaching internal alchemy, the Sealing of the 5 Senses. I really got to wondering why he had taken more than 22 years of teaching in the USA to get to the point that he considered “the end” while the great Taoist literature considered it to be the beginning? It was the way it was taught to him I guess, but it was the point at which I took to the road and the mountains and he went home to Thailand.
I hope I have sufficiently clarified this issue for you.
Master Eric Steven Yudelove
P.S. Don’t get me wrong, I have a great love for Master Chia. I am not a master in the Healing Tao system, but of my own system. However, I am a Senior Instructor in the Healing Tao. After he named me a master, Chia became a Grand Master. My 1st love was Magick and Michael(I’m not a master) Winn used to trash me about this periodically. But I know it was all really jealousy because I always conjured up the prettier girls.
P.P.S. I love Michael too. We both started with the Healing Tao on the same day.
LOL.May 3, 2010 at 6:52 pm #34098
Thank you for responding . . .
Now forgive me for sounding rude, but you really didn’t answer my question!
Let me give you an example:
If I were asked to compare Michael’s adaptation
to the classical Chia approach, I would list three things:
1. Introduce and incorporate specific qigong exercises linked to
the neidan alchemical meditations, so that 30% of the system is qigong.
2. Amplify certain neidan alchemical meditations via secret Wudang
Mtn. methods, channeled methods, and western psychology that help
make the meditations less mental and more embodied.
3. Defer until later the sexual techniques to their own course
after Fusion 3, while introducing the pearl and shen concepts earlier in system.
While the above description is overly brief, it is nonetheless what
I would call a “fair assessment”.
So I now ask you . . . You said that you haven’t done the Healing
Tao system in 10 years, and that you do your own system which you
are master of. How does it differ in its nature and philosophy?
Obviously it has to be different if you say you haven’t
done the Healing Tao stuff in 10 years. But listing one
of your beginning practices not done in the Healing Tao (or
at least until the end), doesn’t really paint a picture of
You mentioned something about Magick. So is your system an
amalgam of alchemy and Taoist magic, or is it something else?
StevenMay 4, 2010 at 11:30 am #34100
A few more points. I don’t know anything about Michael’s adaptations of the Healing Tao system. I never studied with him.
I really haven’t taken a Healing Tao course in over 10 years. But from the very beginning, each time Chia taught a new course for the 1st time I was there up to the 1st time he taught Sealing of the 5 Senses. Until he moved back to Thailand, we were very good friends. Chia lived just a few miles from me in Huntington, NY. I was often at his house. I was also his lawyer and did the closings and sales on the 2 houses he owned in Huntington, as well as a number of other legal matters.
I really am not invested in being called Master. There is only one person that I actively teach and that is my wife Dian. She calls me Dragon Master or Eric.
As far as any advantage to the way my system is laid out in my books is by starting the practice at the tip of the nose then moving up to the bridge of the nose, the mid eye point, then the Crystal Palace and down to the Tan Tien. Most people experience a real movement of energy(chi) rather quickly, sometimes very powerful energy. My system starts in the head then works downward. It begins with the concept of illuminating the brain before tackling the Microcosmic Orbit. As the light grows stronger(congeals) it is then circulated in the Microcosmic Orbit. If you don’t have this light(of Heaven) energy to circulate, then you really have nothing to circulate in the MCO except your own thoughts. I’m also very concerned with quieting the mind. Concentrating on the tip and bridge of the nose are 2 excellent practices for stopping the thought process which in a certain sense is killing your ego which fights like hell to stay alive.
I think my books are clear enough so that anyone with the time, inclination and dedication can practice and absorb the material. The fact that it is broken down into coherent weekly lessons, makes it a whole different experience than learning at a workshop or retreat where everything is sort of thrown at you at once. For instance, I’ve heard of a number of people who have had bad experiences from the Healing Tao sexual practices.In the 15 years since my 1st book was published, I have never heard of or from anyone who had bad experiences learning from my books, except perhaps boredom.
Finally, since each week builds upon the previous week and each week considts of exercises for the 3 Treasures of Taoism, Chi, Jing and Shen you don’t have to guess about what to practice, which can be a real problem when you’ve only read or taken a course or 2 with the Healing Tao.
However, my system gives you a firm foundation. It works well with any Healing Tao course and much of at least “100 Days” and to a lesser extent “Taoist Yoga and Sexual Energy” are based on what I learned from Mantak Chia. I would describe “100 Days” as pretty much a combination of the Healing Tao and Richard Wilhelm’s translation of “The Secret of the Golden Flower”. I just put it all together into a coherent system. I didn’t make anything up, I just organized it.
I’m happy to help anyone who thinks he or she needs some.
MESYMay 4, 2010 at 3:18 pm #34102
I don’t think you realize the significance of this technique, it should stay with you for life, everytime you meditate.
If my last post, which I posted before I saw your request to clarify, didn’t sufficiently answer your question then I suggest you read my books and come back and tell me what differences you perceive. The books speak for themselves. Fifty years from now I think they will be easier for a beginner, with no teacher available, to learn from than reading or watching 15 Healing Tao books or DVDs, no offense meant. Writing them was a task that higher powers than myself requested me to perform.
I’m not trying to convince anyone to follow my teachings, sell anything, give a seminar, take a seminar, go to North Carolina, Thailand, tour China, meet anyone or anything like that.
I was deeply involved in magic long before the Tao was even a glimmer on the horizon for me. Probably long before you were born. I’ve been at this for a long time. I’m pretty much a Hermit now, on my way to my place in the White Mountains of New Hampshire with my beautiful and magickal wife Sparkle and just stopped by to say hello.
Eric YudeloveMay 4, 2010 at 6:15 pm #34104
I was just thinking about the names in Mantak Chias two books about the mco. The healing energy respectively the helaing light of the tao. Is this the same light you refer to and Mantak Chia uses in hes name of the title?
What method does Mantak Chia uses to induce the ligth?
SDMay 4, 2010 at 7:07 pm #34106
Did you not have horrible issues with mixing magic and your other Taoist practices? It sounded like the story of Solomon. You do not seem very humble in light of what I have heard about your story. Would you care to share your lessons about that time in your life?
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