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fusion positive and negative cykle

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  • January 10, 2012 at 5:28 pm #38361
    Swedich Dragon
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    Hello all!

    I practise “the EIGHT EXTRAORDINARY MERIDIANS QIGONG” by James MacRitchie

    I have some former practise in fusion of the five elements from Eric Steven Yudeloves books.

    I have tried for about three or four times the positive cykle by Macritchie. But I have practised the negative cykle many times both from how yudelovea and macrithies system.

    When I do the negative cykle, clearing out the negative emotions from the organs. I do not feel alot emotions but more energy quite vague actually. But I feel wery calm and wery refreshed after practising this. I also do the pakuas and cirkulating the pearl in the micro cosmic orbit.

    The positive cycle which I just have started feels considerably much stronger energetically for me. My organs starts to vibrate and it is easy to move the postive energy from one organ to the next and to induce the new positive aspect and feeling to the new one. The energies feels strong but I also do feel blocages more easily than when I do the negative cycle.

    The feelings after the positive practise even when done wery shortly is that I got alot energy and my tan-tien feels wery nice and warm. More warm than after the most other practises in this system.

    I just speak of my experience here, but I think what I am after is some kind of question. I haven´t realy read alot theory especially litle about the postive cykle. But what I wonder is how to combine these practises. It feels almost as if when doing the postive cycle I come more into contact with negative energies than when doing the negative cycle and I think the reason is that the energies feels so much stronger and that the energies therefore penetrates deeper into the layers of the organs. It is not so that the negative takes ower or hinder the postive it is just that the negative apears for my consiousness when doing the positive cycle, but actually doesn’t come into my consious as much when doing the negative one.

    What is a good aproach to practise then. Is is to always start with the negative cycle and then add the positive one after the negative one at the same practising session? Or is it to go ower to do alot of the postive cycles and when I feel that the negative feelings have arised to a certain level start dealing with them in the negative cycle to clear them out? Or is there other perhaps freer aproaches to this?

    Anyway I like the positive cycle more than the negative one, but I have been practising the negative one for quite a long time without trying the positive one which is new for me.

    How do you more experienced people around here practise this for yourself.

    By the way I will also start to do some tai-chi at a club nearby in a few weaks. I do also a treatment with TCM herbs that is a litle bit helpful so far to my illness.

    Thanks, SD

    January 10, 2012 at 7:03 pm #38362
    adel
    Participant

    Hello SD,

    I have only done Michael Winn’s
    fusion practices which starts
    with focusing on the postive
    virtues of the organs first
    before going into the negative.

    Maybe when you do the positive
    practice the energy you feel
    is strong enough to “soften”
    up the shen so that they
    feel supported enough to release
    their negative energies. I think
    that is what happened with me.
    I haven’t done the negative practices
    with the cd yet, but I think that
    the practice of working with the
    virtues of each shen has made them
    trust each other more and allowed
    a kind of group release against
    one feeling (fear).

    Good to see you, Adel

    January 11, 2012 at 3:48 am #38364
    Swedich Dragon
    Participant

    Hello Adel!

    I do follow your post to. Thanks for your response to mine.

    What is the reason that Michael Winn did change the order of them? It seems to suit me anyway and perhaps many more people. Seems to be a good idea to learn them quite close to eachother.

    Perhaps exercising the virtues and when doing so take care of the negativity that is realised during that practise with the other cycle, that seems to me to be a good response.

    From what I have read every organ can have any feeling within it. It is just descibed as that each organ has the “responsibility” or are in charge of sertain feelings. (not realy finding the right words) So in your case if you have a huge feeling of fear, which probably is on a wery deep layer, then that will be the major thing to deal with for every organ. That seems resonable to me. This issue will probably be something for you to work on for a long while.

    Good luck with your practise Adel. I will follow your thread with interest, but perhaps not contribute much more to it, beacase I am quite new with fusion.

    Good to see you to!

    SD

    January 11, 2012 at 3:17 pm #38366
    adel
    Participant

    Hi SD,

    My understanding of why fusion starts with
    the positive is because you want to build
    a strong foundation of trust between the
    shen and you as well as the shen together.
    Where they can support each other, then
    when you start to work with the negatives
    that arise you have the power of the
    entire team to utilize. If you start
    with the negatives there is a chance of
    it clogging up because you don’t have
    the resources built to transform them.

    I think fear is a part of you that exists
    even if you become an immortal and one with
    the tao. It reminds me of the book by
    Taro Okamoto (The beauty of anger) that talks
    about anger, where true anger becomes a vehicle
    thru which things become transparent and you
    see the center.

    Regards, Adel

    January 12, 2012 at 5:15 am #38368
    Swedich Dragon
    Participant

    Interesting.

    True feelings is the whole thing isn´t it!

    SD

    January 12, 2012 at 11:01 am #38370
    adel
    Participant
    January 19, 2012 at 9:44 pm #38372
    Steven
    Moderator

    Hi SD,

    Just a brief hello to say “it’s good to see you again”. 🙂
    I’m glad to see you are still practicing, and it is
    nice to read of your recent practice.

    Qi,
    Steven

    January 24, 2012 at 3:59 pm #38374
    Swedich Dragon
    Participant
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