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February 14, 2007 at 8:09 pm #21124IntelligenceParticipant
at a certain level of garbage fluff a person really betrays a pandemic ignorance at an irrecoverable quintessential level of their being beyond all hope because it is simply who they are and permeates everything they do..
Yes, Alexander Alexis that is you..
beyond flim flam and new age cotton candy homogeny, there stands Alexander Alexis, so boldly ignorant in his ill informed half baked mysticism and half-penny-worthed psuedo psychology that the only excuse fot the banality is the banality itself..
PROVE SOMETHING..
that’s right.. PROOF
Do you understand proof?
Test something!
If you’d ever learn to ALWAYS test with contrapose and dialectic then your head would not be filled with such idle regurgitated fluff..
Leary’s head was never removed and you obviously never knew the man..
you are more pseudosham, hot to trot on the new flim flam bandwagon
February 14, 2007 at 8:11 pm #21125IntelligenceParticipantFebruary 14, 2007 at 8:32 pm #21127IntelligenceParticipantFebruary 15, 2007 at 1:52 am #21129Alexander AlexisParticipantFlorinda Donner, Being-In-Dreaming
“…what we call reality is a culturally determined construct. And what we need is to accept at the deepest level possible that culture is the product of a long, cooperative, highly selective, highly developed and, last but not least, highly coercive process that culminates in agreement that shields us from other possibilities.”
As has been offered in the past, there are books that document any kind of scientific proof you want about every subject which has been mislabeled “parasychology” or the like.
Here are two of them:
The Field by Lynne McTaggart
Filled with irrefutable, double blind, much repeated scientific studies from all over the world for decades, including information in depth about the recently disussed PEAR studies, and the studies I mentioned from Dr. Benveniste, proving the validity of homeopathic medicine and the fact that water holds vibrational memories.
From the introduction:
“A small band of scientists dotted around the globe was not satisfied to simply carry on with quantum physics by rote. They required a better answer to many of the large questions that had been left unanswered.
Several thought again about a few equations that had always been subtracted out in quantum physics. The equations stood for the Zero Point Field – an ocean of microscopic vibrations in the space between things. If the Zero Point Field were included in our conception of the most fundamental nature of matter, they realized, the very underpinning of our universe was a heaving sea of energy – one vast quantum field. If this were true, everything would be connected to everything else like some invisible web.
They discovred that we were made of the same basic material. On our most fundamental level, living beings, including human beings, were packets of quantum energy constantly exchanging information with this inexhaustible energy sea.
Most fundamentally, they had provided evidence that all of us connect with each other and the world at the very undercoat of our being. Through scientific expeiment they’d demonstrated that there may be such a thing as a lifeforce flowing through the universe – what has variously been called collective consciousness or, as theologians have termed it, the Holy Spirit. They provided a plausible explanation of all those areas that over the centuries mankind has had faith in but no solid evidence of or adequate accounting for, from the effectiveness of alternative medicine and even prayer to life after death. They offered us, in a sense, a science of religion.
In many cases these scientists have had to fight a rearguard action against an entrenched and hostile establishment. Their investigations have gone on for thirty years, largely unacknowledge or suppressed, but not because of the quality of the work. The scientists, all from credible, top-ranking institutions – Priceton University, Stanford University, top institutions in Germany and France – have produced impeccable experimentation.
The Field represents one of the first attempts to synthesize this disparate research into a cohesive whole. In the process, it also provides a scientific validation of areas which have largely been the domain of religion, mysticism, alternative medicine or New Age speculation.
There have been many attempts to discredit the new ideas elaborated in this book by scientists with good credentials and testing methods, but thus far, no one has been successful…”
And:
The Biology of Belief by Bruce Lipton, cellular biologist, who demonstrates that DNA does not turn itself on, we do, via our perception of the environment and therefore it is we who control our destiny directly with our consciousness.
“Nothing else in the world … not all the armies…is so powerful as an idea whose time has come.” -Victor Hugo
As for Timothy Leary, the video I mentioned, Timothy Leary’s Dead, was a professional documentation of his life which ended with actual footage of the doctor he hired surgically amputating Leary’s head immediately after his death as Leary had requested.
I appreciate the opportunity to reintroduce this information for the benefit of those who wish to have it. -Alexander
“To know that you do not know is the best. To pretend to know when you do not know is a disease.” -Laozi
“Cease listening with the mind, and listen with the vital spirit.” -Zhuangzi
“The human body is a device that captures energy from the universe, circulates it and then gives it back to the universe…There is the ability in this system to take an infinity of things and simultaneously create events…A human body can think thoughts, it can play a musical instrument, it can kill germs and it can eliminate toxins and it can make a baby all at the same time. And whilst it’s doing that it can monitor the movement of stars and incorporates that cosmic rhythm into its own biological rhythm. There is no intelligence in rational thought that can do that because rational thought is linear whereas this is contextual and relational and intuitive and wise, and is taking everything into account…it doesn’t believe in linear cause and effect because it knows everything.”
-Deepak Chopra, The 7 Spititual Laws of Success video“The field is the only reality.” -Albert Einstein
February 15, 2007 at 2:58 am #21131Michael WinnKeymasterNice quotes. I’ve been meaning to read the field book, not had time. Is the text worth the time?
I think the science vs. religion issue will be resolved by spiritual science – the recognition of the 5th force that physics is seeking that unites the others, what Taoists call yuan chi.
Until that is accepted, it will appear to be the Old War.
Michael
February 15, 2007 at 4:02 am #21133IntelligenceParticipantFebruary 15, 2007 at 4:14 am #21135IntelligenceParticipantthis is elementary at best, trite at worst..
more new age candy store rape..
so the quantum foam is holographic? give an origin, give a destination, show some particulates, and explain how a hologram is made without god shining a flashlight
and go figure out how come timothy leary filmed AFTER this video a whole pre death sequence explaining WHY they shot that video to begin with
February 15, 2007 at 6:08 pm #21137Alexander AlexisParticipantMichael, I am finding the book to be very informative and enjoyable. It is a very well-written compilation, in detail, of what all those scientists have been doing and finding out. Her excitement comes through clearly about what they are doing but it does not interfere with the clarity of the scientific presentation. It is likely that you have not covered all or even most of the info she works together because, as she says, it is one of the first books of its kind. But I can’t say that for sure.
I agree completely about spiritual science. In Lipton’s video he goes into detail about how science (whose paradigm since 1650, he points out, has been “The aim of science is to dominate and control nature”) has been trying to determine whether “nature,” something inside creation like the DNA, or “nurture,” something outside like divine force, is responsible for how things happen and how our behavior is created. (The Old War I think you are referring to.) He then demonstrates by using the newfound knowledge about perception triggering the DNA to act to show that it is a third, previously ignored, force, consciousness, which is actually at the root of it all. This is the breakthrough point for the big step forward, as I see it. The science behind all of this is so simple and complete it’s flabbergasting. I found myself laughing out loud throughout the video because of how obvious yet secret it all has been to us.
Alexander
February 15, 2007 at 8:16 pm #21139Alexander AlexisParticipantYou know how I write on that Daoist forum with those other people? Well, lately, there’s been a lot of conflict between some of us about new ideas I know you want brought into the Field down here, especially with one guy, he calls himself “Intelligence,” You know who I mean. He’s always screaming for “proof” and “hard facts” and that kind of thing whenever anyone talks about the spiritual ideas like love and oneness which are the foundation of Your creation. He always seems really frustrated.
Well, some people have tried to explain these things to him and give him leads about where to go to get the actual scientific data that supports our intuitive understanding of it all, but he just throws it all back in our faces with insults. I think he’s even referring to the actual scientists to whom you gave all that information the same way he refers to us. He calls us things like “flim-flam fluff heads,” and the like.
Anyway, I’m starting to get really frustrated with this situation. I know you want us to share our experiences and knowledge with each other so we grow but he’s just not responding and I’m feeling somewhat like a failure. I’m doing the best I can but I can’t help it if the horses won’t drink!
Anyway, I know You understand, and I think what I’m going to do now is just hand him over to You and maybe You can shine a flashlight on him some night and give him a dream or an experience or something that will help him get what he’s trying to get so he stops writing all those abrasively agressive subject line posts with questions in them that sound like he’s yelling at You to give him what he can’t seem to access directly himself. I’m sure You’ll know just what to do with him.
OK. That’s it for now. Thanks for listening and have a nice day.
Oh Yeah! Thanks so much for that yin-yang weather formation thing that happened in NY the other day. It was really cool! We all enjoyed it a lot.
Your friend, Alexander
February 15, 2007 at 9:03 pm #21141DogParticipantShine your smiling acceptance. Look at the tool. If it does not make sense, you most likly do not know what they are using it for. Look beyond the tool. Use that which does nothing yet every thing. The hunger must be satisfied before the fork is put down. I did not hear a thank you for Intelligence.:)
ooh sorry I thought you said DOG.:)
February 15, 2007 at 10:22 pm #21143StevenModeratorThe fifth force may just be the lambda force.
Here is an interesting article involving the lambda force that describes a new cosmological theory in which the universe itself is in a cyclical “Taoist” life-death cycle
Recycled Universe: Theory Could Solve Cosmic Mystery
By Ker Than
Staff Writer
posted: 08 May 2006
12:28 am ETOne of the biggest mysteries in cosmology could be explained by a controversial theory in which the universe explodes into existence not just once, but repeatedly in endless cycles of death and rebirth.
Called the cyclic universe theory, it could potentially explain why a mysterious repulsive form of energy known as the “cosmological constant” and which is accelerating the expansion of the universe is several orders of magnitude smaller than predicted by the standard Big Bang model.
In a new study detailed in the May 5 issue of the journal Science, Paul Steinhardt of Princeton University and Neil Turok of Cambridge University propose that the constant was once much larger, but that its value decayed with each incarnation of the universe.
Puzzling great minds
The cosmological constant, also known as “lambda”, is thought to be a form of energy that gravitationally repels itself and causes the expansion of the universe to speed up.
Einstein initially proposed it as a counterforce to the gravitational attraction of matter to explain why the universe appeared static, neither growing nor shrinking. He later discarded the idea, however, when observations by astronomer Edwin Hubble revealed the universe was in fact expanding.
Lambda was revived in the late 1990s when astronomers discovered that the universe was not only expanding, but that it was doing so at an accelerated pace.
Scientists are still not sure what lambda is. According to one popular idea, it is the energy of space itself. According to quantum physics, the seemingly empty vacuum of space actually contains phantom particles that continually blink in and out of existence like flecks of sea foam. These particles are fleeting, but their energies combine to give every cubic centimeter of space a certain amount of energy. According to general relativity, this “vacuum energy” produces an anti-gravitational force that pushes spaceand the matter in itapart.
But there is a problem: the lambda that scientists have detected is more than a googol (1 followed by 100 zeros)times smaller than what theory predicts. To explain such a large discrepancy, physicists have been forced to come up with ever wilder theories.
Explaining lambda
One idea is that the lambda is not really small, but only seems so because it is being cancelled out by another unknown force with near perfect precision. To date, though, no mechanism has been found that can cause this cancellation.
An alternative solution is that of “anthropic selection,” a controversial idea that attempts to explain why so many constants in nature appear to be precisely the right value to produce life. If lambda were too large, for example, the universe would have instantly blown up shortly after the Big Bang.
According to the so-called Anthropic Principle, certain features of the universe are selected by the requirement that observersin our case, humanscan detect them. In other words, only in a universe where lambda is small can intelligent beings exist who can wonder why it is small.
There are different ideas about how anthropic selection works. One possibility is that there are many parallel universes coexisting together; each would have constants of different values and in our universe, those constants can sustain life.
A similar idea is that there is only one infinite universe, but lambda varies from region to region. We just happen to live in a rare bubble where the constant is just right for galaxies and starsand usto form.
Anthropic selection makes many scientists uneasy because it suggests that the laws of physics might work differently in remote parts of the universe. In its strongest form, anthropic selection could also be viewed as support for creationism, since it suggests that the universe is somehow fine-tuned specifically for intelligent life.
“The anthropic idea suggests that, in order to explain the universe that we do see, we must make very strong assumptions about other universes we can never see,” Steinhardt told SPACE.com. “Also, it assumes our universe is atypical. These assumptions are not normal in science and it’s not clear that we must head in such a radical direction.”
Cyclic universe
The idea of a cyclic universe, first proposed in 2002 by Steinhardt and Turok, is an alternative to anthropic selection.
“The [value of lambda] is one of the prime mysteries of physics,” Steinhardt said. “It’s really been so puzzling that it’s driven the physics community to this anthropic approach. So it’s important to know if a non-anthropic solution might exist.”
The researchers’ latest tweak to their model is to have the value of lambda decay over time with each passing cycle of the universe and even within a single cycle.
Scientists experimented with a varying lambda before within the context of the standard Big Bang model, but it didn’t work because the time required for it to reach its current low value was far longer than the known age of the universe.
Combining a decaying lambda with a cyclic universe potentially solves this problem.
‘Ingenious’
Although he expressed other concerns about the cyclic universe theory, Alexander Vilenkin, a cosmologist at Tufts University in Massachusetts who was not involved in the study, said Steinhardt and Turok’s solution to the cosmological constant problem was “ingenious.”
In a cyclic universe, new matter and energy are created about every trillion years when two sheet-like “branes” collide along an extra dimension of space. Branes are predicted by string theory.
Because there can be endless cycles, the universe would be far older than the 14.7 billion years that scientists currently estimate. This would allow ample time for lambda to shrink to what astronomers see now.
Steinhardt and Turok think lambda decreased in such a way that the rate of decay slowed with time. This means that observers measuring lambda are much more likely to get a small value than a large one.
Because a high lamda prevents the universe as we know it from forming, early cycles of the universe would have been void of galaxies, stars and life; only in later cycles, when lamda had decreased to a much smaller value, could matter coalesce to create the world we inhabit today.
The pair estimates that each cycle lasted about a trillion years. During this time, the universe runs its natural course, but all the while matter and energy fans out through space until they are extremely dilute.
“They are so dilute, in fact, that we would likely see not even a single particle of that early matter and radiation within our horizonthat is, the patch of space we can see,” Steinhardt said.
Once the universe is emptied out, a weak attractive force brings our universe’s two branes together in a cosmic collision. Each collision is essentially a new Big Bang that infuses the aging universe with new matter and energy.
Steinhardt says their crazy theory can be tested: the inflationary Big Bang theory predicts that gravitational waves produced at the end of inflation leave an imprint on the cosmic microwave background, a diffuse form of electromagnetic radiation that fills the universe.
If future experiments show the polarization pattern produced by such waves, it would disprove the cyclic universe theory, ruling it out as a possible solution to the cosmological constant problem.
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