May 20, 2014 at 4:03 pm #42447
throwing this out there… all IMHO
personally feel that anti-aging life extension is a lubricant issue.. and an electrolyte issue
how to lubricate cellular processes without arterial clogging etc
this is why people enjoy high oil foods to begin with
this seems to be the real effect of wine, the wine has, in mystical terms, taken on a yin midnight tone which cools and eases the system..
and apparently helps break down the clogging
this leads itself also to an issue of lifestyle… a slower longer arc of activity
another critical peace is present in urine…
it has come up time and time again that people drinking silted water are living far longer..
this is also present in chicken broths…
clearly an integrated product of the chickens’ uric acid and endogenous steroids…
perhaps a form of soluble gold, silver, other has the same effect…
by endogenous steroids this means their natural sex steroids etc, which is a real problem…
many meats are directly loading the male and female gametes with animal sex plasma to the corruption of the embryo before and during gestation
simultaneously, recycling of urine is unfathomably beneficial
for anyone attempting to recover from caffeine addiction, insomnia, weakness, constipation, other
urine, recycled, is directly medicinal and apparently has the same effects as silt water
so what is the solution?
steaming seems to have a similar lubricating effect…May 20, 2014 at 4:06 pm #42448
simultaneously a clean high anaimal protein diet is never recognized for what it is..
an organic steroid boost..
there surely is no question that a clean red meat diet boosts development and intelligence..
same for quality sea foods…
but they also appear, IMHO, to prolong life..
some of the most aggressive and closed people I have ever met lived to be nearly 100
they were racist, hard ballers, etc…
carnivores were not built on constant peace, they are highly competitive..
many issuesMay 21, 2014 at 1:12 am #42450
I don’t hear anybody talking about fecal therapy.
Why not? Because not only is it gross, but all the e-coli bacteria and other toxins are poisonous. People who have eaten feces (either intentionally or unintentionally) end up getting very sick. In total, it is a bad idea.
Urine therapy isn’t much different, just less obvious.
Urine is a waste product and contains toxins (urea, excess salt).
Drinking it means that your body (i.e. your kidneys) have to then filter it out AGAIN. This means you are working your kidneys extra hard for little benefit.
Advocates of urine therapy say that the toxins don’t go back into the blood, but instead leave the colon. I don’t believe that. Even if the small intestine is selective, it is not perfectly selective. This is why alcohol, its metabolites, drugs, etc. end up in the blood. These also then end up in the urine. Most people who do urine therapy will tell you that they have to urinate more when they drink their urine. What does that mean? It means your bladder had filled up! Why? Your kidneys had to strain the blood to deposit it there, it means you are working your kidneys extra for no reason. It’s not only the extra work on the kidneys; it’s not only the toxic urea that needs to be cleared; but it’s also the excess salt you are now adding back to the body. We already usually consume too much salt in our diets as it is, and you don’t want to be adding more back to your body unnecessarily.
In any case:
The body does not benefit from having to get rid of the urea twice.
The body does not benefit from adding back an excess of salt that it already tried to eliminate.
The body does not benefit from the kidneys having to do extra work to filter out the fluid twice. It just helps wear out the kidneys. There is just nothing about it that makes any sense at all.
If I’m stranded somewhere without water, OK.
Clearly there is little choice then.
Otherwise, I’m not going to opt to have my kidneys work harder for absolutely no reason.
SMay 21, 2014 at 4:49 am #42452
perhaps one day you will be able to read..
Of course only governments are concerned with things like literacyMay 21, 2014 at 9:38 am #42454
>>>simultaneously, recycling of urine is unfathomably beneficial
>>>for anyone attempting to recover from caffeine addiction, insomnia, weakness, >>>constipation, other
>>>urine, recycled, is directly medicinal and apparently has the same effects as silt >>>water
Yes it was.
It is you who can not read.
SMay 21, 2014 at 3:31 pm #42456
Researchers find the key to what’s in our pee
Human Urine Is Shown to Be an Effective Agricultural Fertilizer
Camel urine components display anti-cancer properties in vitro.
Camel urine showed cytotoxicity against various, but not all, human cancer cell lines, with only marginal effect on non-tumorigenic epithelial and normal fibroblast cells epithelial and fibroblast cells. Interestingly, 216 mg/ml of lyophilized CU inhibited cell proliferation and triggered more than 80% of apoptosis in different cancer cells, including breast carcinomas and medulloblastomas. Apoptosis was induced in these cells through the intrinsic pathway via Bcl-2 decrease. Furthermore, CU down-regulated the cancer-promoting proteins survivin, β-catenin and cyclin D1 and increased the level of the cyclin-dependent kinase inhibitor p21. In addition, we have shown that CU has no cytotoxic effect against peripheral blood mononuclear cells and has strong immuno-inducer activity through inducing IFN-γ and inhibiting the Th2 cytokines IL-4, IL-6 and IL-10.
CU has specific and efficient anti-cancer and potent immune-modulator properties in vitro.”
Universal Healing Tao Urine Therapy guidelines:
Miracles Of Urine Therapy
By Dr S K Sharma
Efficacy of cow urine therapy on various cancer patients in Mandsaur District, India – A survey
“The symptoms (pain, inflammation, burning sensation, difficulty in swallowing, irritation, etc.) of cancer patients were categorized into severe, moderate and mild categories, respectively. Intensive study of the data of cancer patients revealed that the degree of severe, moderate and mild symptoms were 82.16%, 15.8% and 1.58% on the first day and 7.9%, 55.3% and 36.34% on the eighth day, respectively. It was evaluated that patients who were receiving cow urine therapy since 2-3 months were most benefited. Hence, this traditional therapy may really a boon to cancer patients.”
Nano-particles in Camels urine may help treat cancer
“This treatment is not an invention, but rather, taken from our Prophets legacy, she remarked. A Hadith narrated by Al-Bukhari (2855) and Muslim (1671) claims that some people came to Madina and fell ill with bloated abdomens. The Prophet (pbuh) told them to combine the milk and urine of a camel and drink that, after which they recovered. A swollen abdomen may indicate edema, liver disease or cancer. Dr. Khorshid added that she is not a medial doctor but a scientist and her job involves the preparation and testing of a drug in the lab and supervising the manufacture, testing and application of the drug.
We have researched and studied (camel urine) for seven years, during which we have tested the effectiveness of camel urine in fighting cancer to prerequisites set by the International Cancer Institute, she explained. According to her published study on the subject, the clinical trial her team conducted on patients indicated that the medicine (capsules and syrup) did not entail any harmful side effects.
In the case of a volunteer patient with lung cancer, the medicine helped in halving the size of the tumor after only one month. The patient, and others like him, are still undergoing treatment. Heeding the advice found in the Hadith, Dr. Khorshid is combining specific amounts of camel milk and urine to develop her medicine and focuses on particular types of cancer, including lung cancer, blood cancer, stomach cancer, colon cancer, brain tumors and breast cancer.”
Have you ever done urine therapy yourself “Stephen”?
I did for 6 months…. while running 1.5 miles per day, weight lifting for 2 hours a day….
i no longer wanted caffeine, slept better than I’ve ever slept in my life, and learned to cut out sodium as everything you eat shows up in something in your on urine..
not only is it incredibly calming, it it manages to boost your own endogenous sex steroids
ingredients listed below are only a few critical nutrients found in urine:
Alanine, total ….. 38 mg/day
Arginine, total ….. 32 mg/day
Ascorbic acid ….. 30 mg/day
Allantoin ….. 12 mg/day
Amino acids, total ….. 2.1 g/day
Bicarbonate ….. 140 mg/day
Biotin ….. 35 mg/day
Calcium ….. 23 mg/day
Creatinine ….. 1.4 mg/day
Cystine ….. 120 mg/day
Dopamine ….. 0.40 mg/day
Epinephrine ….. 0.01 mg/day
Folic acid ….. 4 mg/day
Glucose ….. 100 mg/day
Glutamic acid ….. 308 mg/day
Glycine ….. 455 mg/day
Inositol ….. 14 mg/day
Iodine ….. 0.25 mg/day
Iron ….. 0.5 mg/day
Lysine, total ….. 56 mg/day
Magnesium ….. 100 mg/day
Manganese ….. 0.5 mg/day
Methionine, total ….. 10 mg/day
Nitrogen, total ….. 15 g/day
Ornithine ….. 10 mg/day
Pantothenic acid ….. 3 mg/day
Phenylalanine ….. 21 mg/day
Phosphorus, organic ….. 9 mg/day
Potassium ….. 2.5 mg/day
Proteins, total ….. 5 mg/day
Riboflavin ….. 0.9 mg/day
Tryptophan, total ….. 28 mg/day
Tyrosine, total ….. 50 mg/day
Urea ….. 24.5 mg/day
Vitamin B6 ….. 100 mg/day
Vitamin B12 ….. 0.03 mg/day
Zinc ….. 1.4 mg/day
Sex steroid levels in urine of cattle of different ages: evaluation of abuse control procedures.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24405322May 21, 2014 at 3:39 pm #42458May 21, 2014 at 4:57 pm #42460
I am well aware that M. Chia himself does it, and promotes it in his Cosmic Cleansing Book, where you even see a picture of him drinking a glass of pee. Moreover, I’ve run into a good number of other folks in the Healing Tao community that do it as well. I think maybe even Michael does it (although I don’t know for sure).
Just because there are lot of people on this bandwagon in the HT community, does not mean I’m going to follow it.
I very clearly stated why I think it is bad idea with multiple bullet points, namely the excess salt intake, a lot of the urine with its toxic urea going back into the blood, the need for the body to filter the urea out twice, and the most important bit that it overworks the kidneys in all this excess filtering.
No modern medical health professional will say it is good for you. They will all tell you that it causes stress on the kidneys.
There are plenty of different “alternative” medicine “professionals” that do different studies that “show it to be” beneficial, in contradiction to modern medical science. If you wish to believe them and follow their findings, go nuts.
Personally, I would believe your sleeping better had to do with the lack of caffeine intake, not the urine drinking. I’d bet you lost the desire for caffeine because you felt so nauseous from drinking urine that caffeinated beverages sounded terrible. Hey, if that’s what you got you off the caffeine, then kudos.
By the way, as to your 1% comment, I can choose what portions of a post to respond to, just like everyone else does. If you have an emotional reaction because other folks don’t respond in the way YOU want them to, then that is YOUR issue, not mine or anyone else’s.
Also, I don’t have to agree with you, regardless of what “evidence” you provide. You are going to have to learn to accept that others don’t have to agree with you, regardless of your reasoning.
SMay 21, 2014 at 5:27 pm #42462
No you posted lunacy that only governments care about terrorism and that no one else has your 1.5 years of calc experience
You are going to have to learn the definition of passive aggressive..
More fighting words StevenMay 21, 2014 at 6:23 pm #42464
>>>No you posted lunacy that only governments care about terrorism
>>>and that no one else has your 1.5 years of calc experience
Please stop misquoting me.
I never said either of those things.
It’s just spin and nonsense, and a weak attempt to create an argument.
1. I said that wars and political games are things that governments like to play, but ordinary citizens do not. No ordinary citizen wants a war or to be involved in political games. I did not say “only governments care about terrorism”. This is clearly false. There are many citizens that care about such things, sharing news reports, sharing outrage, etc. I only said I don’t care, because it is a never-ending cycle to which I feel I have no control over, and I choose to invest my energies in things that I feel that I can affect.
2. I said YOU lack a basic understanding of calculus, as well as Tom Bearden whose work is rife with mathematical errors. It’s not any kind of personal attack on you OR him. It is just a simple fact. And that comment was only made after you persisted over a period of time continually defending something that is mathematical incorrect. If you want to take my assessment personally, it is your issue. If someone wants to show off something mathematically, they better be prepared to be pointed out where they are wrong, especially by folks that know a million times more about the subject. Believe me, if any professors in the mathematics department had read any of that stuff, they would have been far less kind than I. They wouldn’t even tried to point out where you were wrong, they would have just ridiculed you.
I never said “only governments care about terrorism”. Plenty care.
I never said “no else has 1.5 years of calculus experience”. A lot of people do.
I ask that you discontinue saying things about me that are false, as they constitute libel.
StevenMay 21, 2014 at 10:07 pm #42466
I have put’zed around on this forum for some !!!7!!! years
again and again I have suggested
will someone please focus on the actual biochemical basis of chi kung states of consciousness
will someone please focus on separating the religious and philosophical from the mechanical
will someone please look into the biological roots of language
will someone please present on EKG/EEG studies
Michael Winn clearly posted numerous times on exact topics concerning channels, collagen, reincarnation..
all excellent material
I asked repeatedly what the argument was for planetary chi tones given contrasting systems, no argument was ever really given
again and again I asked how the philosophy could be reconciled with history, life, evolution and THE REAL WORLD
and pointed out the obvious dilemas such as the Chinese occupation of Tibet
I suggested real work on biofeedback, language, and qi channels
WHERE WERE THE RESPONSES
again and again I pointed out that my actual forehead swole for a month just like the supposed TAO immortal figures which is clearly unhealthy
Michael Winn did try his best I suppose but really…
yes, I have tossed some angry rants out at one point or another but really…
where are there any replies to Winn’s quality posts?
one constructive thought a year?
nowhere has anyone addressed the obvious logical and psychological conflicts present in the system
you wrote back one time something to the effect of cussing the other driver and artificial responses
that’s all fine and good, THERE IS NOTHING NORMAL ABOUT SWOLLEN HEADS FROM PITUITARY OVERLOAD
google: ieee.org scalar wireless
https://www.google.com/search?q=ieee.org+scalar&oq=ieee.org+scalar&aqs=chrome..69i57.9029j0j7&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=122&ie=UTF-8#q=ieee.org+scalar+wireless&safe=offMay 22, 2014 at 3:27 am #42468
Do you ever think that people don’t respond to your topics, because they are not interested?
Most people are interested in qigong because it improves their health, and helps them better manage their emotional body. They are not interested in some kind of biospiritual metaphysical analysis. If you are, great! But if you can not handle that others are not interested, again this is YOUR issue. It’s nobody else’s problem.
P.S. IEEE is an electrical engineering society.
It doesn’t mean its members understand math, e.g. Bearden
Demonstration of ignorance is not the same as libel.May 22, 2014 at 3:04 pm #42470May 23, 2014 at 4:01 am #42472
Amaroli is an important technique of yoga which was first used in conjunction with many of the advanced practices. Today, however, amaroli is better known as a therapeutic process and people everywhere are asking how it can be used.
First of all, amaroli must be learned from a qualified teacher who has thorough knowledge of the practice. The method of taking amaroli varies from person to person. In some cases it is the fresh substance and in others the preserved substance that should be used. Sometimes only the first urine of the day is taken, and in other cases it is taken up to lunch time. In the case of fast growing diseases like cancer, we tell the patient to drink everything.
Amaroli becomes very powerful if you take care of your diet. Whatever purpose you use it for, you must avoid proteins of every nature. It is also best to avoid too much sweet, sour, spicy or pungent food. Raw food and certain fruits like banana, papaya and citrus fruits are very good in the practice of amaroli. Remember that the raw foods have better value for building up the bodily resistance and fighting disease. Those who take amaroli after lunch must discontinue the practice one hour before and three hours after each meal. It is also a common rule before practising amaroli, to make an application on the head and soles of the feet, that is, you have to anoint the head and feet.
In the past, yogis used amaroli because when meditation is practised for long hours, the inner body temperature falls. Under such circumstances, the practice of amaroli maintains the digestive system.
Meditation also has an effect on the cardiovascular system, and the blood pressure can drop suddenly. If it falls gradually, this does not matter so much, but a rapid fall adversely affects the cardiovascular system. Amaroli safeguards against this. Therefore, if you practise meditation for long periods, you should take amaroli for this reason.
Scientific discoveries have revealed that amaroli contains up to twenty four distinct groups of hormones. One of these is uricode which is important for maintaining the health of the cardiovascular system. This is why the advanced yogis took up the practice of amaroli.
Female yogis also practised amaroli because long term use influences the levels of prostaglandin hormone in the reproductive system. These hormones destroy the ova before they have matured.
By the practise of yoga and especially hatha yoga, all the impurities are thrown out of the body as it is cleansed. When the body is pure, its power of immunity is lost. So a yogi can sometimes suffer from contagious diseases because his system contains fewer antibodies. Thus amaroli was practised by great yogis to maintain a certain ‘level of antibodies in the body. These yogis could remain in a cave for three months and nothing would happen to them, but if an ordinary man did this, he would get a lot of skin problems.
If you want to practise amaroli, you must find someone who knows the science and can teach you properly, but this is basically how to start. Have a simple fast for one day. You can take fruit juice, and raw or boiled vegetables, however, a total fast is better. If your intestines are not clean, empty them by enema or glycerine suppository. If you know the short version of shankaprakshalana, taking six glasses of warm salty water, that’s the best way.
Next morning when you get up, take the midstream of the first urine. This is enough to start with, and you can continue taking this for one month. If you don’t have any positive or negative reaction, then start to use the second urine also, sipping a little water in between. Don’t drink the water, only sip a little, not more than half a cup. Continue twice per day for another month. During this time you will definitely have either a positive or negative reaction. If it is positive, increase the intake to three times each day, sipping water in between. If there is a negative reaction, find out what it is due to. Perhaps it is caused by improper diet, or maybe you are suffering from some disease. In this case, reduce to the previous quantity. If the reaction is positive, increase by one round.
In my opinion, three rounds is sufficient. Continue this for many months. Then once in a year or so, leave your home and stay alone somewhere in the countryside, fix your diet and practise amaroli the whole day, for one week only. If there is a positive reaction every day, continue. If there is a slight negative reaction, go back to the stage up to which you did not get that reaction. You will not have any problem then.
You have only to eliminate the excessive protein from the diet and continue this practice with total patience. Even if it takes one, two or three years to come up to the full practice of amaroli, it is still a rewarding period. It will help you in meditation and also in maintaining good health.May 23, 2014 at 5:28 am #42474
This Indian version of drinking urine is already very advanced practice.
It’s also very well thouthg out.
Best way to do it is to first learn to survive with extrely scarce raw vegan diet in controlled situations.
Drinking one’s own Amaroli is not Impure
Dr. M. Hajirnis, MB, BS. Thane
There are a lot of misgivings about amaroli in the public mind. Most people ridicule it. Very few of those who profess it for others practise it themselves, while those who do follow it personally somehow feel shy about admitting it in public.
Those who ridicule it say that if urine can be drunk, why can’t faeces be eaten? They fail to understand the difference between these two products. There are two systems in the human body which connect it to the external environment- the respiratory and the gastro-intestinal. The uro-genital system is also open to the exterior, but it is mainly for output and not for input. Through the respiratory system we inhale the outside air to oxygenate our blood. All other nutrients enter the body through the gastro-intestinal tract. It is the only system through which external substances can enter through the mouth, pass through the entire length of the intestine and exit through the anus even as such. So any contaminated material from the outside world taken in through the mouth may be contained in the faeces. Hence faeces cannot be pure. They can be infected and contaminated or may contain toxic substances or eggs and cysts of harmful bacteria and parasites taken from outside in food and drinks. It is not so with urine. Freshly voided normal urine is sterile.
Urine is a pure filtrate of the blood
Urine is formed in the kidneys from blood circulating throughout the body. It is an ultrafiltrate of the blood. Kidneys have no direct opening to the outside for input. They can work only on those substances brought to them by the bloodstream. Hence, the normal urine is never contaminated by anything from outside, when it is freshly voided.
Another objection raised against urine therapy is that, after all, urine is a waste product of the body. Products which are not needed or toxic are excreted in the urine. Why should they be taken in again? However, there is a fallacy in this argument. Urine contains valuable substances which are in excess in the blood at that moment. Because they are filtered from the blood and lost to the body, it does not mean they have no biological value. For example, a capsule of vitamin B-complex contains the vitamin in much greater concentration than is required by the body immediately. Thus, inevitably, most of it cannot be absorbed, and is excreted in the urine. You must have noticed the yellow colour and the odour of the urine after taking a B-complex tablet. If one drinks that urine, one will get one’s daily requirement of the vitamin for 3 to 4 days regularly and save a lot of personal as well as national expenditure.
Similarly, various hormones are formed in the endocrine glands in tiny amounts and secreted into the bloodstream in response to specific stimuli. They are formed at great metabolic cost to the body. Once they are released they are broken down and filtered into the urine within hours because the body has no built-in recycling process to recapture these molecules. Their excretion represents an irreversible loss to the body.
The discovery of prostaglandins
Similarly, many precursors and derivatives of steroids and other substances useful for developing immunity are lost in the urine.
One of the greatest discoveries of the last decade in the field of medicine has been prostaglandins. These hormone derivatives are currently being tested in numerous laboratories and hospitals around the world. As a result of these research studies, they are being acclaimed as miracle drugs and panaceas for all types of maladies in the human body, and it is predicted that these substances, which the body produces in minute amounts, act to insulate and protect the body, preventing the onset of disease. They are also invaluable to the ladies as a natural form of birth control, preventing the fertilised ovum from attaching itself to the walls of the uterus.
Unfortunately, prostaglandins cannot as yet be chemically manufactured, and this shortage is holding up research studies at present. They have to be extracted in minute amounts from urine. Here may lie one explanation for the radiant health of those who practise amaroli on a regular basis. Each morning they are giving themselves an additional dose of a vital regenerative medicine. The properties of prostaglandins may yet substantiate many of the claims which have been made by the proponents of amaroli.
Does urine taste bad?
Another objection to amaroli is that urine is foul tasting and smelling. Actually this is only true where the diet contains excessive salt and/or proteins. It is especially true where animal proteins are being consumed- meat, fish, eggs, milk, etc. The breakdown of such large amounts of amino acids produces an excess of nitrogenous wastes which the liver transforms into urea and ammonia which give it a foul and unpleasant taste. This is why a pure yogic diet is recommended before commencing amaroli. The urine then becomes inoffensive, even pleasant. This occurs especially after the initial period when the bloodstream and body tissues are gradually cleansed and purified of residues and stored wastes by the practice.
When fasting is combined with amaroli, tissue purification occurs rapidly. Plenty of water should be consumed. As the quality and taste of the urine changes, so does one’s perception of the body, its physical processes and activities.
In this way amaroli also exerts an influence upon the level of awareness of its practitioner.
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