August 17, 2006 at 8:48 pm #16565
Written by former republican Treasury Secretary for Ronald Reagan.
Just in case you thought your uplane was about to be blown up.
By Paul Craig Roberts
August 14, 2006
I was in China when a July Harris Poll reported that 50 percent of Americans
still believe that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction when Bush invaded
that country and that 64 percent of Americans still believe that Saddam
Hussein had strong links with al-Qaida.
The Chinese leaders and intellectuals with whom I was meeting were
incredulous. How could a majority of the population in an allegedly free
country with an allegedly free press be so totally misinformed?
The only answer I could give the Chinese is that Americans would have been
the perfect population for Mao and the Gang of Four, because Americans
believe anything their government tells them.
Americans never check any facts. Who do you know, for example, who has even
read the report of the 9-11 commission, much less checked the alleged facts
reported in that document. I can answer for you. You don’t know anyone who
has read the report or checked the facts.
The two co-chairmen of the 9-11 commission report, Thomas Kean and Lee
Hamilton, have just released a new book, “Without Precedent: The Inside
Story of the 9-11 Commission.” Kean and Hamilton reveal that the commission
suppressed the fact that Muslim ire toward the United States is due to U.S.
support for Israel’s persecution and dispossession of the Palestinians, not
to our “freedom and democracy,” as Bush propagandistically claims. Kean and
Hamilton also reveal that the U.S. military committed perjury and lied about
its failure to intercept the hijacked airliners. The commission even debated
referring the military’s lies to the Justice Department for criminal
investigation. Why should we assume that these admissions are the only
cover-ups and lies in the 9-11 commission report?
How do you know that 9-11 was a Muslim terrorist plot? How do you know that
three World Trade Center buildings collapsed because two were hit by
airliners? You only “know” because the government gave you the explanation
of what you saw on TV. (Did you even know that three WTC buildings
I still remember the enlightenment I experienced as a student in Russian
studies when I learned that the Czarist secret police would set off bombs
and then blame those whom they wanted to arrest.
When Hitler seized dictatorial power in 1933, he told the Germans that his
new powers were made necessary by a communist terrorist attack on the
Reichstag. When Hitler started World War II by invading Poland, he told the
Germans that Poland had crossed the frontier and attacked Germany.
Governments lie all the time — especially governments staffed by
neoconservatives whose intellectual godfather, Leo Strauss, taught them that
it is permissible to deceive the public in order to achieve their agenda.
Some readers will write to me to say that they saw a TV documentary or read
a magazine article verifying the government’s explanation of 9-11. But, of
course, these Americans did not check the facts, either — and neither did
the people who made the documentary and wrote the magazine article.
Scientists and engineers, such as Clemson University Professor of
Engineering Dr. Judy Woods and BYU Professor of Physics Dr. Steven Jones,
have raised compelling questions about the official account of the collapse
of the three WTC buildings. The basic problem for the government’s account
is that the buildings are known to have fallen at free-fall speed, a fact
that is inconsistent with the government’s “pancaking” theory in which
debris from above collapsed the floors below. If the buildings actually
“pancaked,” then each floor below would have offered resistance to the
floors above, and the elapsed time would have been much longer.
These experts have also calculated that the buildings did not have
sufficient gravitational energy to accommodate the government’s theory of
the collapse. It is certainly a known and non-controversial fact among
physicists and engineers that the only way buildings can collapse at free
fall speed into their own footprints is by engineered demolition. Explosives
are used to remove the support of floors below before the debris from above
arrives. Otherwise, resistance is encountered and the time required for fall
Engineered demolition also explains the symmetrical collapse of the
buildings into their own footprints. As it is otherwise improbable for every
point in floors below to weaken uniformly, “pancaking” would result in
asymmetrical collapse as some elements of the floor would give sooner than
Scientific evidence is a tough thing for the American public to handle, and
the government knows it. The government can rely on people dismissing things
that they cannot understand as “conspiracy theory.” But if you are inclined
to try to make up your own mind, you can find Jones’ and Woods’ papers,
which have been formally presented to their peers at scientific meetings,
Experts have also pointed out that the buildings’ giant steel skeletons
comprised a massive heat sink that wicked away the heat from the limited,
short-lived fires, thus preventing a heat buildup. Experts also point out
that the short-lived, scattered, low-intensity fires could barely reach half
the melting point of steel even if they burned all day, instead of merely an
Don’t ask me to tell you what happened on 9-11. All I know is that the
official account of the buildings’ collapse is improbable.
Now we are being told another improbable tale. Muslim terrorists in London
and Pakistan were caught plotting to commit mass murder by smuggling bottles
of explosive liquids on board airliners in hand luggage. Baby formula,
shampoo and water bottles allegedly contained the tools of suicide bombers.
How do we know about this plot? Well, the police learned it from an “Islamic
militant arrested near the Afghan-Pakistan border several weeks ago.”
< http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/4781925.stm> And how did someone so
far away know what British-born people in London were plotting?
Do you really believe that Western and Israeli intelligence services, which
were too incompetent to prevent the 9-11 attack, can uncover a London plot
by capturing a person on the Afghan border in Pakistan? Why would “an
Islamic militant” rat on such a plot even if he knew of it?
More probable explanations of the “plot” are readily available. According to
the Aug. 11 Wayne Madsen Report, informed sources in the United Kingdom say
that “the Tony Blair government, under siege by a Labor Party revolt,
cleverly cooked up a new ‘terror’ scare to avert the public’s eyes away from
Blair’s increasing political woes. British law enforcement, neocon and
intelligence operatives in the United States, Israel and Britain, and Rupert
Murdoch’s global media empire cooked up the terrorist plot, liberally
borrowing from the failed 1995 ‘Oplan Bjinka’ plot by Pakistan- and
Philippines-based terrorist Ramzi Ahmad Yousef to crash 11 trans-Pacific
airliners bound from Asia to the U.S.”
There are other plausible explanations. For example, our puppet in Pakistan
decided to arrest some people who were a threat to him. With Bush’s
commitment to “building democracy in the Middle East,” our puppet can’t
arrest his political enemies without cause, so he lays the blame on a plot.
Any testimony against Muslim plotters by “an Islamic militant” is certain to
have been bought and paid for.
Or consider this explanation. Under the Nuremberg standard, Bush and Blair
are war criminals. Bush is so worried that he will be held accountable that
he has sent his attorney general to consult with the Republican Congress to
work out legislation to protect Bush retroactively from his violations of
the Geneva Conventions.
Tony Blair is in more danger of finding himself in the dock. Britain is
signatory to a treaty that, if justice is done, will place Blair before the
International Criminal Court in the Hague.
What better justification for the two war criminals’ illegal actions than
the need to foil dastardly plots by Muslims recruited in sting operations by
Western intelligence services? The more Bush and Blair can convince their
publics that terrorist danger abounds, the less likely Bush and Blair are
ever to be held accountable for their crimes.
But surely, some readers might object, our great moral leaders wouldn’t do
something political like that!
They most certainly would. As Joshua Micah Marshall wrote in the July 7
issue of Time magazine, the suspicion is “quite reasonable” that “the Bush
administration orchestrates its terror alerts and arrests to goose the GOP’s
Marshall proves his conclusion by examining the barrage of color-coded
terror alerts, none of which were real — and, yes, it all fits with
And don’t forget the plot unearthed in Miami to blow up the Sears Tower in
Chicago. Described by Vice President Cheney as a “very real threat,” the
plot turned out to be nothing more than a few harmless wackos recruited by
an FBI agent sent out to organize a sting.
There was also the “foiled plot” to blow up the Holland Tunnel and flood
downtown New York City with seawater. Thinking New Orleans, the FBI invented
this plot without realizing that New York City is above sea level. Of
course, most Americans didn’t realize it, either.
For six years, the Bush regime has been able to count on the ignorant and
naive American public to believe whatever tale that is told them. American
gullibility has yet to fail the Bush regime.
The government has an endless number of conspiracy theories, but only people
who question the government’s conspiracies are derided for “having a
The implication is even worse if we assume that the explosive bottle plot is
genuine. It means that America and Britain by their own aggression in Iraq
and Afghanistan, and by enabling Israel’s war crimes in Palestine and
Lebanon, have created such hatred that Muslims, who identify with Bush’s,
Blair’s and Israel’s victims, are plotting retaliation.
But Bush is prepared. He has taught his untutored public that “they hate us
for our freedom and democracy.”
Gentle reader, wise up. The entire world is laughing at you.
Paul Craig Roberts
was Assistant Secretary of
the Treasury in the Reagan Administration. He is the author of Supply-Side
Revolution : An Insider’s Account of Policymaking in Washington; Alienation
and the Soviet Economy and Meltdown: Inside the Soviet Economy, and is the
co-author with Lawrence M. Stratton of The Tyranny of Good Intentions : How
Prosecutors and Bureaucrats Are Trampling the Constitution in the Name of
Justice. Click here < http://www.vdare.com/pb/death_of_due_process.htm> for
Peter Brimelow¹s Forbes Magazine interview with Roberts about the recent
epidemic of prosecutorial misconduct.August 18, 2006 at 10:34 am #16566
It doesn’t seem to me that Michael has advocated the opinions contained in the article but simply offered the article for viewing and consideration.
A certain amount of cynicism towards government isn’t an unnecessarily bad thing – it keeps us thinking and not just blindly accepting what the news people want to feed us.
EmelgeeAugust 18, 2006 at 11:19 am #16568
geminichasm my friend, you need to do more research. In my opinion one should examine as many sources as possible before forming a conclusion about a subject. I have personally done the research, spoken with individuals who worked in the towers as well as those outside the pentagon. The Goverments story in those cases was a load of crap. Why should recent situations be any different. I am not from some hillbillie family. My family is very educated, and my father is very highly placed in U.S. Intel, and still I am not foolish enough to not believe posts such as Michaels. The U.S. Gov. counts on idiots believing anything they tell them. They invoke fear and then utilize that fear. Did you miss the fact that we trained al-qauda and that Bin-Laden and Pres. Bush were friends.
As usual please excuse my dyslexia. I wish there was a spell check on this forum.lolAugust 18, 2006 at 12:07 pm #16570
oh, it’s supposed to say:
France Commits 200 Troops to Lebanon Force
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5669231August 18, 2006 at 12:09 pm #16572
Not taking sides here..
it’s probably everything you’ve heard, then some, and a whole lot to be gained by cetain parties involved..August 18, 2006 at 1:27 pm #16574
Causuis of ideas, ideals, and leaders. Trust in ones self. Is it not interesting that the more poeple we have on earth the more individuals we are producing. There is an inverse of this. True the role of 911 people has not been to give a new route. But meany through this process have had to change there definition of who thay are. Meany now question the symbol of power that is the President, Pope, and Prime Minister. The old symbols of power weaken or change. There will be those who will introduce new paths. The old regulating systems will go.
Most people on drugs will not get off untill they feel there is a problem, or have hit rock bottom. Hopefully they can wake up before rock bottom. People will start to remember the love of nature, the joy of a simple life. Do you not remember when playing out side at school how much joy there was, how simple fun could be. Do you remember how that was slowly taken away. What did you need to enjoy your self out side maybe just a ball. The funnest times in my life where at summer camp. How simple that life style was. Religions may still disagree, but the agreement on a regulatory system is a must. A regulatory system that honnors the simple life, a life in balance with nature.August 18, 2006 at 10:16 pm #16576
I thought you wrote “This forum is not for mindless dumping or political harangues or venting using hate language.”
I think this piece easily falls under the “political harangues”, and possibly “mindless dumping”.
If you have your own personal views, I might be interested. But I do not come to this forum for political information or conspiracy theories or critical judgments from the Chinese leaders and intellectuals.
-Yi TaoAugust 18, 2006 at 10:23 pm #16578
>>But I do not come to this forum for political information or conspiracy theories or critical judgments from the Chinese leaders and intellectuals.<<
*What will "Daoists" think of next!August 19, 2006 at 2:46 am #16580
perhaps you forgot the civil war, ,tral of tears, vietam lsd and watergate
anyone w/ aneuron didn’tAugust 20, 2006 at 12:24 am #16582
Nice article…in the words of the late great George Seldes “Tell the Truth and Run”;
Below is a 1994 article by the late great correspondent/Journalist George Seldes, a avid author on questioning what is propaganda vs. fact..which could be a whole message board in itself..also a video talk by him… Snowlion
Is the Entire Press Corrupt?
What is the most powerful force in America today?
Answer: Public opinion.
What makes public opinion?
Answer: The main force is the press.
Can you trust the press?
Answer: The baseball scores are always correct (except for a typographical error now and then). The stock market tables are correct (within the same limitation). But when it comes to news which will affect you, your daily life, your job, your relation to other peoples, your thinking on economic and social problems, and, more important today, your going to war and risking your life for a great ideal, then you cannot trust about 98 percent (or perhaps 99 1/2 percent) of the big newspaper and big magazine press of America.
But why can’t you trust the press?
Answer: Because it has become big business. The big city press and the big magazines have become commercialized, or big business organizations, run with no other motive than profit for owner or stockholder (although hypocritically still maintaining the old American tradition of guiding and enlightening the people). The big press cannot exist a day without advertising. Advertising means money from big business.
I have written several books on the press and I am publishing a weekly newsletter devoted largely to criticizing the big city newspapers (the public opinion-making newspapers) and exposing their corruption, because I still believe that the press is the greatest force in the world and can be used for good or evil. And I believe that the American press by its control of public opinion can either fool all the people into restoring a world in which one-third of the nation will again live in economic slavery without sufficient food, clothing and shelter, or it can, if it wants to, bring out of this united effort against native as well as foreign Fascism a world approaching the Jeffersonian ideal.
In 1787 Jefferson declared that “the basis of our government is the opinion of the people”: Given the choice of “a government without newspapers, or newspapers without government,” he would prefer the latter. Think of it! Jefferson was willing to let the press itself rule the country instead of merely creating the public opinion that rules.
But Jefferson did not foresee that the American press which creates opinion and which rules indirectly would become almost exclusively a millionaire’s press, or a corporation influenced press, or the medium of big business via its advertising, and therefore the corrupt press which serves private interests rather than the public interest. If America is to be bossed by the public opinion created by its press, if it is to fight and win this war, if it is to make a great peace, then it should know the power of the most powerful force which is abroad in this land.
The press which attacked George Washington, which denounced him as everything from a traitor to a drunkard, was not a corrupt press. It was in fact a free press. But the press which from 1932 (or thereabouts) to the present day attacks New Deal F.D. Roosevelt, the same press which tried to suppress the Old Deal Teapot Dome scandal and the doings of Harding’s Ohio gang, while sniping at every governmental action for the general welfare of the American people, is a corrupt press.
Why has the press become corrupt? So long as it was possible for an itinerant printer or any tiny minority possessing a few hundred dollars to set up shop and issue a newspaper, there was no monopoly of public opinion. And there was no corrupt press. In Boston, in New York, in colonial days, and later in Washington, and in every city and town in the wake of the pioneers marching westward, wandering printers kept alive the free press and produced the most picturesque era in the nation’s journalism. It was still possible toward the end of the 19th Century to get out a newspaper without being a millionaire in a big city, or a company with a soul mortgaged to the banker in a small town.
But, as William Allen White — the man always chosen to prove the publishers’ claim that the press still has integrity — now confesses, it takes a comparatively large bank roll to start a paper anywhere — his own Emporia Gazette is worth $70,000, and if a man with another viewpoint wanted to start an opposition sheet in Emporia it would involve a much greater sum. In Chicago or New York it would mean the risk of a million dollars a year for many years.
Mr. White does not disagree with Frank Munsey, the great newspaper wrecker whom he saved from oblivion with the famous phrase: He turned a great profession into an 8 percent investment. The fact is now accepted that the newspaper is big business. Whether it is therefore ipso facto corrupt because big business is corrupt is still being debated.
There is only one viewpoint which the entire press of the nation expresses, respects, represents and works for: the viewpoint of business, money, wealth and power represented by what is generally known as the God of Things As They Are, or the Status Quo. The press has been united almost to a paper in defending existing conditions and opposing not only some radical plan for change but even all those mild reforms which friends of big money and the status quo, the latest of whom is Franklin Delano Roosevelt, have initiated for the double purpose of helping the Have-Nots and saving and preserving the system of the Haves.
The change that has come over America is this: that beneath the uproar the press made in our early history, the motivation was not money, it was not commercial. Today the press is motivated almost entirely by the motive of profit for itself and its backers. This profit motive not only affects the handling of all the news about labor, “defense” strikes, wage increases, the whole problem of taxation, a large part of the legislation of state and nation, but it also affects the news of world events.
It is my claim that the press, which could be the most powerful force in making this country over into an industrial democracy in which poverty would be unknown, wealth equitably distributed, every man certain of the minimum requirements of decent living (as well as the four freedoms), has, on the contrary, become the most powerful force against the general welfare of the majority of the people.
© 1994 by George Seldes and Randolph T. Holhut.August 20, 2006 at 1:53 pm #16584
Such actions are poll-tests. Intelligence is always obvious, but perception of it within the collective is systematically tested. Guys who are wise are wise guys.
He worked for Reagan.
His presidency institutionalized Laffer curve theorem. Results were interesting for societal welfare distribution and such effect was systemic possibility within the theorem.
(they just misassume the position on the graph, instead of being on the right side of the peak they were on the left side)
He worked for tresury. USA is a specific government where central banks are private and independant of state. Private and independant.
(see what Jefferson thought)
Special forces are not designed to charge first in a attack.
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