Home › Forum Online Discussion › General › Hagar/Rainbowbear discussion
- This topic has 2 replies, 3 voices, and was last updated 19 years, 3 months ago by Michael Winn.
-
AuthorPosts
-
August 8, 2005 at 9:15 pm #7127farooqParticipant
Hi everyone,
I found this post below by Hagar to Rainbowbear that my have gotten lost in the shuffle.
I’ve taken the liberty of repasting it here, in case anyone missed it.
“Hi
I have only studied with one qigongmaster, and I totally trust him.
As to your question, I guess we need to define the term “transmission”. Transmission can be found in any relationship. In watching anyone who has a “gong” in whatever field, either mentally, spiritually of physically, there is an underlying energetic process that is being “transmitted”. If you watch Tiger Woods play golf, you get a transmission of his Gong, and you play a better game og golf yourself. If you hear Bill Clinton speak, you recieve some of his “gong”, and you may feel that alot of problems can be solved, and changing things are possible. Gong is by nature contagious.
When we speak of transmission in spiritual practice the transmission is not based on the personality of the master. The transmission uses the master as a vehicle, or a gateway. This requires a very high level of Gong. Any other exchange taking place is not genuine spiritual transmission. Alot of qigongmasters have personal agendas, and their energy is quite “raw” and difficult to receive true benifit from. Some so-called masters are just manipulating the chi field, and are not working on an integrated Shen, or light level at all. These masters usually end up getting themselves in some sort of trouble, because things happen on a dualistic level.
It seems like the master you have met works in this way. I do not think he neccessarily is “bad”, but only taking advantage of the chi field to do his work. True transmission works on the Shen level, or via Heart-to-heart transmission. This is more like getting a spiritual pin-code given by the master to access cosmic energy and information. Using the code you are given, you instantly recieve the information. You can be taugth thousand techniques and approaches, but they would be like having a computer running, but not being connected to the internet. True healing is given by the master by sealing and sorting out the knots and tangles we have on a shen level. My master said we are like fading comets. When we are born we are complete, but at sexual awakening we start to leak energy. Not only on a jing level. So healing is done while sealing the shen and getting it back to the body,so that we are not leaking our light anymore. The chi healing does not have this effect.
You are not bound by transmission, and you should feel absolutely free to choose in what way you relate to the practice. The main focus is the opposite of attatchment to someone or something. Through practice we get more self-reliand, detached, and free.
Maybe this was of some help…
h “
August 8, 2005 at 11:17 pm #7128MoonglowParticipantThank you farooq for relisting this email. I did miss it myself and it answers a lot of my questions. And it seems to fit right in with the experience I had with the qigong master I met with. No one is ever really “bad” I know, misquided, misnderstood, sometimes just plain lost so I do not hate him I just don’t appreciate him very much.
I guess the thing to be open to then would be the “Master” who can open one to the light, and he/she is enlightened enough to “know” the entanglements, etc. I would have to admit that I have been “untangled” quite a bit in the last year or so. I am truly thankful for that.
Your email has given me more to think about and feel. Thank you so much. I just love it when this happens.
Rainbows!!
and thanks FarooqAugust 8, 2005 at 11:23 pm #7130Michael WinnKeymasterHagar’s comments are truly excellent about the nature of shen transmission.
But I don’t think it really addresses Rainbow’s claims of her teacher’s irresponsibility and manipulation. There are unfortunately an abundance of “qigong masters” taking advantage of the naivete of westerners – and of chinese as well. That is one reason so many chinese think qigong is not reputable or real – because there are so many fakes out for a a buck.
Or even if someone does have some skill, but uses it to manipulate others – that is problem for everyone in the field, it spreads distrust.
that is why both the National Qigong Association and the Healing Tao Instructors Association have a Code of Ethics – to enforce violations of it by expelling members who violate it. This of course doesn’t help with those who are not members and are abusive.
michael -
AuthorPosts
- You must be logged in to reply to this topic.