November 8, 2006 at 7:51 am #19129
Just wanted to post this.
I have been feeling so happy the last two weeks, even with all the shit happening in the world, it ought to be illegal!
Now it’s true, no technique talked about or used on this site had anything to do with it, ‘cos I’ve realized that I am and always will be a magician, not an alchemist. But that’s the beauty of it! The fact that there are so many ways to the truth, to personal empowerment and to gnosis or whatever you want to call it. That’s one of the things I love so much about this age of the world, the sheer multiplicity.
I was reading about these guys called paleros, have you heard of them? Wood magicians from Cuba. Traditions like theirs appear all over the world – you befriend trees and (with their blessing) cut twigs from them to use for magic, earth magic.
But you Winn-Taoists will like this: the Siguaya stick (the most important palo, that is twig, to the palero, taken from the ceiba tree) is used for the working space or ‘magic circle’ of the palero. And what does he do? He gathers his siguaya, and he cuts four grooves in it, one for each ‘corner’ – that is, for each cardinal compass direction. The spirit and power of each corner enters freely into the stick, he asks for the blessing of each. He will mark a circle with four sticks of this kind. And what is in the centre?
All different, the traditions, and all the same… all refractions of the great whole. I’m no more a palero than a taoist, but I have made progress in my own fashion. And the more I progress in my way, the more I love everyone else’s way also. There aren’t going to be any more bad days in my life, I have started to achieve what some call ‘the peace profound’… I see a little of myself everywhere, in every bush and every wall, in every star and every breath of wind.
How wonderful and how simple it all is! How worth all the struggle it has been!
Well, I wish everyone here the best of luck. Even when things are dark, believe it’s going somewhere. “C’est pendant la nuit qu’il est beau croire a la lumiere” as the man said.
I’d run out of physical friends to share this with, so you guys were next on the list. Enjoy your paths, and if you take my advice, share with people of other paths too.
NNNovember 8, 2006 at 8:00 pm #19130
“How wonderful and how simple it all is! How worth all the struggle it has been!”
cannot be said unuff.
All is right with my soul.
Speaking of magic wands what do you think about Hollywood?:)November 9, 2006 at 9:34 am #19132
How do you mean?
>>Speaking of magic wands what do you think about Hollywood?:)<<
BTW palos are not 'wands'. The method I know of to make a wand is much more lengthy although not unrelated. NNNovember 9, 2006 at 11:02 am #19134
>>And what does he do? He gathers his siguaya, and he cuts four grooves in it, one for each ‘corner’ – that is, for each cardinal compass direction. The spirit and power of each corner enters freely into the stick, he asks for the blessing of each. He will mark a circle with four sticks of this kind. And what is in the centre?<<
cool! – so there are four twigs and four markings on each twig – so each direction (as a marking) is projected to every one of the directions (if that makes sense lol) – kind of like a spiral… reminds me of primordial chi kung a little, but in primordial, we also fit heaven in too (and ofcourse our belly is the cauldron in this case).
Great to hear you're doing well, Nnonnth!November 9, 2006 at 12:31 pm #19136
As a magician I wanted to know what you thought of a place where movies are made being called Hollywood? I have heard that Hollywood was perferred to us in making a magical wand. Do you believe we have modern day magicians working for Corporation?
I wanted to get your perspective on this before I posted an interesting video.November 9, 2006 at 6:32 pm #19138
>>As a magician I wanted to know what you thought of a place where movies are made being called Hollywood? I have heard that Hollywood was perferred to us in making a magical wand. Do you believe we have modern day magicians working for Corporation?<<
That's ingenious – I'm afraid I have no direct idea… woods for wands are numerous but tend towards the oak in my very limited experience. However, 'holly' is often a misspelling for 'holy' – anyway, in European placenames. So that is something towards the theory. As for whether magicians work for corporations, I have no idea. No reason why not.
Better post that video! NNNovember 9, 2006 at 6:33 pm #19140November 10, 2006 at 1:16 pm #19142
‘that I am and always will be a magician, not an alchemist…’
you already are…
a western one, but never the less:
Bardon says: Initiation, Evocation, Kabbalah, Alchemy are the first four pillars.
So see you around.
PS: Had some questions for you, but because of your speak did not post them.
With which part of your body do you shift?
I shift by changing my aura and workwithin and do not go out.
So i am wondering, in using the ‘cord’, where is yours attached, and is the place of attachment stable…
Ninjas believe it is not smart strategy keepin the cord, as it is spottable, so work without one.
There are different reports on where the cord connects. Above-head, Head, throat, heart, solar plexus.
I naturally tend to shift with head or throat.
So am woking on lower parts of body.
Watching Bardon, his system suited him. He was fat with great belly, and was grounded enough with his concentration exercises. Yet all his student (MK, son, secretary) exibiti signs of strong head/senses, but not so the torso (lean and not so developed).
Comment?November 11, 2006 at 7:46 am #19144
>>Bardon says: Initiation, Evocation, Kabbalah, Alchemy are the first four pillars.<>With which part of your body do you shift?<>So i am wondering, in using the ‘cord’, where is yours attached, and is the place of attachment stable…<>Ninjas believe it is not smart strategy keepin the cord, as it is spottable, so work without one.<>Watching Bardon, his system suited him. He was fat with great belly, and was grounded enough with his concentration exercises. Yet all his student (MK, son, secretary) exibiti signs of strong head/senses, but not so the torso (lean and not so developed).
I can't think of a comment.
NNNovember 11, 2006 at 10:01 am #19146
If this bores you or does not answer questions sorry!
My own method for OBE has something in common with Rawn Clark’s ‘Self-Healing Archaeous’ – http://www.abardoncompanion.com/Archaeous-Links.html – and with Robert Bruce’s ‘New Energy Ways’ – http://www.astraldynamics.com/tutorials/?BoardID=18 – but is basically the result of my own investigation. It comes in various stages and is intuitive so I can’t exactly sort it out logically. Draja Mickaharic’s ‘Magic Simplified’ was also a help to me.
The best I can put it is…
Bruce’s methods (if you don’t know them) are maybe not too dissimilar to Chia’s but more generally targetted. You don’t follow meridians but work with the energy body with broad strokes. You use things like stirring the energy, brushing it through, and so forth. (One of Michael’s moves, expelling sick chi with long gold fingers, is similar, but not the same.)
Anyhow what I noticed in fooling around with those, and combining them with meditation of the ‘one-pointedness’ variety, was that if I ‘achieve the centre’ of myself – which is not really a physical location exactly – I can ‘see’ clearly these moves as the *energy* body reacting to another body – call it the *mental* body in line with Bardon’s terminology.
As soon as I notice that I can ‘flip over’ the experience so that the energy body is completely aligned with the mental one whilst the physical one remains ‘asleep’. At that point ‘I’ can move around whilst my *body* remains still, and that becomes and OBE – no trance and nothing dreamlike. So I don’t ‘shift’ from any one point in the body, but with all at once, from the centre.
Of course when I first discovered this it was disorientating for me. Since then I went on a long quest to strengthen the energy body (coming here was part of that), find meditation that worked for me, sort my life out, etc.! I’m about halfway through the process now I think and will not start OBEing again until I feel it so completely under control that there is no difference between it and normal consciousness.
The ability to remain absolutely centred and neutral seems to me to be the most critical one. In coming into contact with the energy body one notices blockages which I understand as being caused by shadow/non-integrated selves, thoughtforms, attachments, etc. – I solve these mostly by meditation and magic rather than by direct energy work, although the latter is still important. Thus OBE work links in with work on the personality and on centring, etc. Also, ‘achieving the centre’ allows entry into communication with other centres. This is useful in connecting oneself to various powers, not dissimilar to what Taoists here are doing with moon and sun, etc. So OBE became part of a bigger package for me.
Thinking about your having brought Bardon into this discussion (although he has certainly been far from useless to me), I have to say that I see myself more as a shamanistic sorcerer type than as a Hermetic mage.
Can’t think of much more!
NNNovember 11, 2006 at 3:43 pm #19148
I’m curious. What is the ultimate goal you have in mind from magical practice? -ANovember 11, 2006 at 8:49 pm #19150November 11, 2006 at 11:11 pm #19152
Seems like there is something behind that question.November 11, 2006 at 11:11 pm #19154
What did you think of the movies?November 12, 2006 at 9:23 am #19156
– where I am right now I’m on dialup and must share computer time, so I don’t really have time to download movies, especially long ones. Why, what are these guys saying? Can you summarize? NN
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