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October 3, 2005 at 8:30 pm #7931farooqParticipant
Hi Wendy,
I admire your positive attitude in all this.
Your middle daughter seems to have the best reaction to all this:
“The middle one has no fear”
And hence the least effected.
Regardless of how powerful these energies may seem, they are just lost and confused – but most can grow stronger by feeding on a person’s fear or polarization.
Ideally if everyone in the house can banish their fear, and instead replace it with unconditional love or acceptance you will be able to set the stage for the ‘transmutation’ of these energies.
Get grounded by connecting with the earth energy and the heaven energy.
Then when you can feel strong heaven energy shining down on you – invite the entities to go into the light that is shining from on high.
There is a series of questions that you can ask the entities to throw them of guard, but if you have a strong connection to the heaven and earth energy, its probably not necessary and the entities will be more than happy to get sucked back up to the Source.
I learned the above from a Shaman/Witch called Mystress Angelique Serpent. She has many years of practical experience with type of stuff.
If you wish, She can work with you over the web. (Her Shakhi, or chi vibe is really strong). Her email is: Mystress@fire-serpent.comIf you find that your family can not overcome the fear and polarization, then Trunk’s advice is excellent. Some people are not ready for this type of stuff, and time and space in a safe environment is the best place for your loved ones after any traumatic event or experience.
May Peace and blessings shower down on you and yours
October 3, 2005 at 9:02 pm #7933singing oceanParticipantHi Wendy,
You also may want to check the Feng Shui of the house. Any malicious objects pointing at her room/window?. If you can find out the year the house was built, and take a compass reading to find the facing and mountain direction, you can get an elemental localization for each room. Eva Wong has a good method for this using nine star fengshui in her book “master course in Feng Shui”. If one room is particularly bad, you may be able to nutralize the elemental effect. If you can find out the above information, I can send you an amateur reading, although there are a number of things I can’t tell from the environment such as outside objects, or deep earth objects facing the house.
It would be useful to know the layout of the rooms and corridors as well. The facing direction is where the front door, downward slope, or the most open side is. the mountain direction is the back, an upward slope, or the most closed side of the house. If the house is an irregular shape, a roof-heavy front door, has pointy branches or nasty objects (rocks) pointing at the window, power lines cutting across the view from the window, etc. it may be affecting her room.
Primordial qigong with greater kan and li is a great way to center and create a neutral space to invite the beings in to resolve their issues.Have a great day.
October 3, 2005 at 11:05 pm #7935karenParticipantSorry to be so brief, but that site describes it better than I can!
Take care,
KarenOctober 4, 2005 at 3:16 am #7937pikatschuParticipantOctober 4, 2005 at 2:49 pm #7939MaxParticipantHi Wendy,
You have 3 choices:
1. Do what Keith recommended (I agree) and leave the place.
2. Try and make peace with the beings, but it could probably be impossible due to their nature. Because of the Earth energy lines probably passing through your house, it maybe possible to diminish the effect but eventually you will get sick. It’s like a radiation suit- with time the protection diminishes.
3. Clear the place using spiritual resources/devices. Not my favorite as you should look at your family moving in the house as an invasion. Those things lived there for a very long time and any disturbance on your part could be looked as a challenge. How would you feel if your place you lived for many years is invaded by entities? You would defend it in every possible way, right? In your case, it’s like you bathe in a pool of leaches- you shouldn’t blame the leaches for sucking your blood- it’s in their nature. So if you decide to go on with a cleansing, you should prepare for war and also accept karmic responsibility for displaced/destroyed beings in the process.I’m sorry to hear you are in trouble.
MaxOctober 4, 2005 at 6:23 pm #7941wendyParticipantIt is indeed a very strong picture activating lower dantian, I printed it out, thank you
October 4, 2005 at 7:22 pm #7943wendyParticipantMany thanks to all, I all take it to heart and read your comments with care and appreciation.
For now we closed her room, I created a space for both girls to sleep, next to our sleepingplace, as far away as possible and as close as possible to us. I was happy to see my oldest smiling and making jokes again today, her inner sun is smiling again yet still fragile because her body needs recovery. We checked her out with the antenna and her rates were pretty bad. So it will take a couple of weeks to recover completely.
When entering the room the energies react like vampires on her body (the merz antenna is still in her room), especially her throat is attacked (obviously), she lost her appetite, had problems with swollowing food, stomach pain, had severe concentration problems, felt dizzy, lost her feeling of identity , started to react with panic attacks because of that loss, was extremely emotional, looked pale, needed lots of sleep, started to complain about kidneys and bladder etc. It became worse and worse in a couple of days. Her earth was consumed without any doubt.
Moving out this house is not a real option because we just bought it for our work and living. As well any next person bying it will have similar problems and I would feel really bad doing this knowing what I know now.
So no other option than to work this out.And we are all very very surprised about the middle daughter (13 years), she wants to stay in her room on the 1st floor while we are all on the 2nd floor, not exactly close to her but she feels really great. She is a kind of a ‘nut case’ talking loudly with herself and with her ‘inner friends'(not those of the room next door).
She is a very wise and clear teenager, asking me what the hell this guys
with their above comments are planning to gain with this, looking at me with her typical
‘those ignorant people’ look, smiled and proceeded with her life.I guess my 13 year old daughter has more wisdom and more humor.
October 7, 2005 at 8:01 am #7945JernejParticipantWendy’s message, character, family and general life
I probed
I freaked
It took me time to reallign with center again and be peaceOctober 7, 2005 at 10:49 am #7947wendyParticipantOh well we Belgians are all nut cases – I found out that my neighbours who own a comic strip shop are having the same ‘problem’ in the back of their shop, in a small room were they sell second hand strips they have the same ‘energy’ as we do, but even worse because nobody worked with it so far. Buyers mention all kind of weird feelings if they are in that space. They don’t live in that house, so they didn’t took any further notice, although they surely do now. Their puzzle of their experiences is more clear. My neighbour, who is a physician himself, meditated in it, he felt a lot of sadness and his wife started to work with reiki in it, she felt a tremendous pressure and pain on her chest (something we felt in the room of our youngest daughter, which became less after working in it.)
They just asked me to check again, and their space is much better, not vanished but better.So if you ever enter Belgium be ready, if you probe me, be centered indeed :-))
Earth is a playground whatever we face is a change to learn. By keeping yourself or others ignorant or by being consumed by fear we miss the opportunity to evolve, if we ignore evolution we die, very simple. ๐
October 8, 2005 at 5:42 am #7949JernejParticipantI didn’t go for your heart.
I went for the cloud covering your eyeheart that
prevented you from seeing the house/rooms situation
in advance.I tend to keep silence when interacting with ‘nice’ people with weaknesses. When they enter my personal space. Temporarely, for a certain time. If they don’t learn or want to be smart, I go for the heart.
I immediately tear appart shit that twisted people try to sell in my personal space.
If you are outside my personal space, its your space.
So I do leave ignorance be.By not willing to move you are denying some heavy metal fun a room of his dreams. It might still take some more turnovers of ownership, but eventually would end with its natural inhabitants.
October 8, 2005 at 10:38 am #7951wendyParticipantI am not sure what you are offering me with your post, it is kind of vague, maybe because I don’t master your language well, or because you leave some ‘mysterious’ space in your story.
I try to do my best to listen with care, as with all postings.
There is no doubt that there is very good reason why I ended up in this particular house. When we came over to see this house, we were not allowed to enter the room of one of their daughters (room of my youngest daughter now). They told us that the girl sleeping in that room didn’t wanted people coming in her room. She is a real weird young woman. After bying it, we only used the street level, only in August the family living at the 1ste floor left it and we could see that little room for the first time ever, that is when I noticed to very heavy energy. Only then we noticed the energy in the other room of my oldest, that was the mothers’ room. She is in fact a nice woman, only speaking Turkish, very
traditional, but she looks very dark and heavy. My first guess was that it was the mothers’ energy in this room. Muslim people tend to use a lot of magic, black and white. But I withdraw that option.It is a fact that I suffered from some particular severe fear concerning ‘other’ energies related to previous experiences as mentioned before. But for this reason my antenna told me to go to Michaels Heaven and Earth retreat, which I did, where I faced my fear and handled it -no fear no longer.
So there is a very good reason why this hocus pocus is happening. I have no fear what so ever, thank god, but as well I am not able to handle this just by myself, that is why I asked the witch to help, she is used to this type of ‘work’. I learned to handle energies in my body, but this is one step too far to handle myself. You have to accept your own limitations, I don’t have any ‘macho’ attitude, so when I need help I need help, very simple.
Today somebody told another story about a house in the same block as ours.
The woman living their was convinced she had ‘company’ in her house, which she liked because she never felt alone in this way. But as soon she had a boyfriend and she moved out of the house, the house was burned to ashes. The woman herself was convinced it was due to the ‘ghosts’ that this happened.My neighbour was convinced he could handle this energies in his back room, despite his work yesterday and the work of his wife with reiki; it only was a temporarily relieve. When she closed her store yesterday she came in and said she noticed that the heaviness was back again. Sure they back off for awhile, and when safe enough they are happy to come back.
So it is not just my house, not just my ‘problem’, it is a problem of this city in general. It is known that spiritual work is very difficult here and many fail to hold stand. The number of spiritual workers and shops is very little, they either move to another city or just stop doing their thing. Everybody is complaining about the lack of openness and people here are very suspicious to new things. They hate chance. So you see it is not just me against these entities, it is me and everyone else wanting to make chance that is confronted with this energy. If you want to become rich with spritual work this is NOT the place to be, it is hard labour and a convinced inner believe that we work for the better.
It is no wonder that this city is the head center of the Roman catholic church in Belgium, the head of the church is living here in his old bastion holding space for what he believes. We have many churches here, and one in particular has a very dark energy coming from the cellars.
The more I find out, the more this giant puzzle is coming to completion.
One of my friends here is a White Brotherhood (Aivanhov) adept, he has chosen to be in silence, he couldn’t come out, nearly lost his job, he is director of the most famous carillon school.
And I am very happy that I am finding my inner earth strong enough to face it and to work with it. And my female watery nature is finding a pathway in this catacomb city, very gradually I am holding space but as well the energies are not willing to just let this happen overnight.
So I invite you all to visit this city and do some energy work here :-)))
October 8, 2005 at 12:44 pm #7953singing oceanParticipantThis is interesting to hear about the spiritual vibe in this town in belgium. I wonder if any part of it has to do with the 10 million murdered in Kongo during colonization? Or maybe it goes deeper and older than that as you suggest.
My family has flemish history from that part of the world that I think may have some heavy ancestral baggage to deal with (my last name means “the Cruel One”).Oh well, even one person doing Kan and li will open up the possibility for stuck entities to resolve themselves, and make it easier for others to do the same practice and clear up the energy field.
I noticed a similar situation at one place where I worked, where everything seemed to go wrong and be consistently difficult to make happen: It was an elementary school named after the guy who discovered King Tut, and was supposedly cursed, died from an insect bite in Cairo during which time there was a simultaneous power outage in the whole city, and his dog died at exactly the same time in england.
Over time the situation there began to shift as my skill in resolving energy developed. It may take a while. And consistent Kan and Li is probably the most viable solution.October 8, 2005 at 4:21 pm #7955SheepyParticipantLOL!!! I miss Belgium. No good pastries in America. ๐
Seriously, why not try and feed the hungry ghosts and teach them the dharma. Michael scoffs at this, but it works very well. Make friends with them instead of trying to drive them out. I am not saying let them go inside of you, as that is dumb, but you don’t have to bully them. Just teach them something.
-Plato
October 8, 2005 at 6:59 pm #7957wendyParticipantYou are always welcome, I live next to a marvelous bakery, you will eat yourself sick ๐
And I am not used to use buddhist terms, ‘teaching dharma’ is asking me to teach nuclear fusion.
I don’t bully them, as you know me well enough, that is not my style, if we are able to make a ‘deal’ I will. But this is way beyond my abilities as a single person. And I believe as well that it is not my task to be mother Theresa. It would be pretty ‘egocentric’ to believe that I am able to battle these energies by myself. I prefer to handle this with several women, all bringing their specific energy into it, as my male neighbour feels it has a very deep ‘male sadness’.
Somehow I feel it is very justified to make women bond and work with this as a team. It is not a coincidence that our house is crowded with women, not only by my daughters and me (poor husband) but as well my classes are mainly females, every week about 40 women stay in this house.
As well all the newly renovated appartments of my neighbour are all bought by single females. My neighbours tell me that the 1st en 2nd floor have that same particular energy as well. Only the 3rd floor is clear.Full moon 17th it will be.
October 11, 2005 at 11:46 am #7959JernejParticipantI am speechless. Still some tension, but flowing.
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