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February 25, 2009 at 2:27 pm #30638Swedich DragonParticipant
Hello all
In my yoga group 4 girls and me, we have resived some money to the group. We have decided to buy books or other material related to our qigong and yoga exercises.
One of the girls didn’t know what to buy. I was thinking on Joyce’s material perhaps on sexual exercises or something else. What do you recomend. And do you know anything of the content inside.
We have been exercising together for about 2 or 2 and a half year. We have done all the exercises in Yudeloves book “100 days to better health, good sex and long life. And for the moment we are in first third of hes other book “Taoist yoga and sexual energy.
What material could be relevant to buy to complement our exercises or explain more about the theory in them.
The exercises in “Taoist yoga and sexual energy” are like this:
Iron shirt
Acivating the internal fires
sexual kung fu, turning the yin yang water weel
breathing with the hair of the body
Bone marrow breathing
fusion of the five elements
four square breathing
rooting
The inner smileAny sugestions are wery welcome, especially any coments on Joyce’s work.
S D
February 25, 2009 at 4:00 pm #30639DogParticipantThere is a recommend sequence to follow on this site. http://www.healingdao.com/winn_sequence.html
The inner smile then Fundamentals 1&2 DVDs/CDs should be enough till next year. If you are inching to buy some thing else before next year Primordial or deep healing might be nice. I would recommend Iron shirt with a live instructor but you might like Tendon Nei Kung DVD from Mantak along with fundamentals 3&4 and Joyces Tao Yin/Feldenkrais, also Dirk Oellibrandt has a form called Meridian Qigong found here http://www.healingtaobritain.com/p16marketdirkoellibrandt.htm (Barry is great at Iron Shirt)February 25, 2009 at 4:55 pm #30641StevenModeratorI only material I know of, by Joyce, that is “sexual exercises”
would be the CDs that are PART of Michael Winn’s 17-CD
Healing Love Audio course where Joyce details the Jade Egg practices.The other material by Joyce that I’m aware of, is her recently
posthumously released Feldenkrais CDs, which is sort of a softened
Tao Yin practice designed to break fixed patterns and to gain
awareness of how your body moves.As to what I’d recommend, I’d probably concur with Dog’s suggestion
of starting with the Inner Smile CD and Qigong Fundamentals 1-4 audio/visual materials.There’s a lot of good stuff there that would enhance current understanding.
QF1 would enhance Six Healing Sounds practice and provide some movement
qigong to accommodate the practiceQF2 would enhance Microcosmic Orbit practice–there’s a great way to
practice the orbit that Michael presents that is much much more powerful
than the standard approach of focusing on points (i.e. Wudang); this
is definitely worth adding to your practiceQF3 would enhance Breathing Techniques and take you deeper into grounding;
the breathing techniques would be good for your health issues . . .QF4 would continue the grounding with some Iron Shirt type stances and
some basic bone marrow work.If you’re really into the Sexual Practices you could get MW’s Sexual
Vitality Qigong DVD and/or the Audio CDs, but then again, you’ve spent
a lot of time on the sexual stuff already–I’d recommend branching out
a bit. Of course, if you all are too keyed up on the sexual stuff
even after several years of practice, I say you all should just drop
the pretense, and start having sex with each other, and stop dancing
around the issue, LOL. Sorry, SD, had to tease you a little bit . . .
of course, I’m only *partly* kidding on that last bit–you’re the
only male in a group of women and you’ve been doing sexual practices
for a couple of years? Good chance one or more of them is
interested in you . . .OK, enough light-hearted stuff 🙂 🙂 🙂
I’d still probably recommend QF1-4.
Smiles to you,
StevenFebruary 26, 2009 at 1:43 am #30643Swedich DragonParticipantThx for your responces!
I will print this out for the interested in my yoga class. Perhaps with a bit censorship on the sexual part 🙂
If others have more ideas, they are realy welcome to share them with me!
It’s is nice to hear so much good thing about the QF fundamentals! 🙂
My plan for us is to continue with Michael Winn stuff in about 1 year.Perhaps the stuff with the egg is something good for them, they already have had a course with my woman qigong teacher abour that and have the eggs, but there are no such practise in our books by Yudelove. Hmmm?
Comment on the sexuality stuff:
Well I hane noticed some interes! But beeing in celibacy for years makes a perfect change in the behaviour of mine. Much less initiative from my side in sexual matter. I not say it nessecarily is good or bad, I just notice it. I know that when I was wery active sexual in the past, the initiative and the urge to have more just increase tremendously. Well that is the way of the sexual energy I guess, to expand!Another thing is that I am on 100 days of retention for the third time. This time is completely different from the other two. In the way that I hardly have had any sexual feeling at all, or erections. I was thinking that I hope I’m not on my way to get impotente, even though I knew such things might happen, especially if you need to save energy. Well two weeks ago I so that there was realy no problem, when meeting an atractive girl, the Jing was huge, the same thing happened yesterday meeting another wery atractive woman.
Well to stop dancing around the issue might soon be the case 🙂
S D
February 26, 2009 at 9:32 am #30645StevenModerator>>>It’s is nice to hear so much good thing about
>>>the QF fundamentals! 🙂
>>>My plan for us is to continue with Michael Winn
>>>stuff in about 1 year.I’d be interested to hear your experiences after you start . . .
>>>Perhaps the stuff with the egg is something good for them,
>>>they already have had a course with my woman qigong teacher
>>>abour that and have the eggs, but there are no such practise
>>>in our books by Yudelove. Hmmm?By the way, if you want a relatively cheap extra for the ladies on the
Jade Eggs and other related stuff, consider picking up
“Feminine Treasures” which is small booklet/book
geared for women–also sold on this site (look under
the Sexual Qigong link).>>>Comment on the sexuality stuff:
>>>Well I hane noticed some interes!
>>>Well to stop dancing around the issue might soon be the case 🙂Go get ’em, tiger 🙂
S
February 26, 2009 at 11:02 am #30647DogParticipantFebruary 26, 2009 at 12:58 pm #30649Swedich DragonParticipantHello
Yes thx that boocklet might be the thing for the moment. They decide!
S D
February 26, 2009 at 6:07 pm #30651StevenModeratorHi Julian,
I’ll answer, but quid pro quo your story 🙂
A few years ago, a six-year relationship with someone
I truly loved came to end. I felt like I did everything
possible to have it work, and I lost myself in the process.
In the end, the relationship still ended, and I was
left in an emotional garbage pile, with very little
self-esteem and self-worth, but a lot of emotional
heartache and pain.In fact, it was one (of many) reasons I came to the
Healing Tao. I did a lot of work with the Deep Healing
Qigong and began cultivating in earnest. I needed a lot
of work to sever/repair energetic and emotional cords.
I needed to rebuild self-worth. I needed
a lot of work feeling love internally, before I felt
I could love someone else. It’s really only been the
past 6 months to a year that I’ve even felt truly available
to enter another relationship with open arms.Now today, if I met someone with a nice heart who liked me,
I’d be open to seeing where it lead. Only time will tell
on that end . . . maybe I’ll meet someone in the Healing Tao
community? At the very least, in the meantime, it makes me
happy to see others in the bonds of love or those that have
an opportunity for it.S
February 26, 2009 at 6:09 pm #30653StevenModeratorThe “Feminine Treasures” booklet is relatively cheap, so
maybe you could get that as well as Michael’s Fundamentals.Just a suggestion . . . S
February 27, 2009 at 8:48 am #30655DogParticipantI was just pointing to something I notice and that is that we often big others the advice we wish to give ourselves.
My story, well I was very much the ladies man, but soon found my self being initiated in different spiritual traditions and becoming quite introverted. It was a cocooning process you might say. If I strayed from my heavily influenced path I would experience very uncomfortable disease.
Now I am very picky, and I am in no rush and I am in demand. 🙂
February 27, 2009 at 12:01 pm #30657Swedich DragonParticipantHello
I myself take my time in that issue. There is no hurry! About the girrls in the yoga group. We have something wery fine toghether right now all five and that is worth wery much to me and I guess also for the others. For me there is a need to be as serious with any sex as with what we now have to see that there should be any point to do something sexual. Well it is not completely true beacase something sexual have happened already. And also I go the white tigress course with one of them, we don’t know for the moment were that go. There is also two girls outside the yoga group that I have interest in. One of them isn’r ready for any dating either by personal reasons or uninterest, I’m not shore about which of the reasons. The other girl is married but might divorce beacase theire relationship isn’t working right now. I myself spend alot time with my master thesis work and with the yoga, I also still is ill and need alot rest, so a sumation is that actually I am satisfied with the situation as it is. I have no panic to get a sexual relationship but I am not against it either. Perhaps also I am a bit old fashioned beacase I always want to be realy in love to see the point on having sex with someone!
S D
February 27, 2009 at 1:10 pm #30659Swedich DragonParticipantHello
I myself take my time in that issue. There is no hurry! About the girrls in the yoga group. We have something wery fine toghether right now all five and that is worth wery much to me and I guess also for the others. For me there is a need to be as serious with any sex as with what we now have to see that there should be any point to do something sexual. Well it is not completely true beacase something sexual have happened already. And also I go the white tigress course with one of them, we don’t know for the moment were that go. There is also two girls outside the yoga group that I have interest in. One of them isn’r ready for any dating either by personal reasons or uninterest, I’m not shore about which of the reasons. The other girl is married but might divorce beacase theire relationship isn’t working right now. I myself spend alot time with my master thesis work and with the yoga, I also still is ill and need alot rest, so a sumation is that actually I am satisfied with the situation as it is. I have no panic to get a sexual relationship but I am not against it either. Perhaps also I am a bit old fashioned beacase I always want to be realy in love to see the point on having sex with someone!
S D
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