May 31, 2006 at 8:00 pm #14599June 1, 2006 at 8:36 am #14600
I have studied the ‘dissident’ view on AIDS quite extensively. In fact, I even quit the anti-virals for more than 1.5 years, because I thought the arguments quite convincing. My health ( and lipoatrophy ) stayed about at the same level for that time I thought, until I got severe pneumonia (PCP)….
Alas ! After doing some more reading, I have to come to the conclusion that prof. Duesberg is NOT right. Hiv DOES cause Aids. The fact that conventional medicine can not yet explain how HIV causes AIDS does not mean that it doesn’t.
Chinese medicine and Healing Tao can still play an important role in restoring health, just like in any other disease. But the great hope that I (and many others) had, the hope that in fact AIDS was just an invented disease, is shattered.
Kind regards, and “May the Force be with you” 🙂
Wandering OakJune 1, 2006 at 2:18 pm #14602
Sorry, I can’t post where I want ’cause this board has a bug in it.
How did you contract “HIV?”
Are you gay?
Did you ever use drugs?
How many partners did you have?
Speaking from my own experience, I know quiet a few people who died of AIDS. They were ALL homosexuals who did heavy “gay lifestyle” drugs and had multiple partners every night.
However, many of my friends had the most dirty, unprotected sex with hookers and girls picked up on the street and never got anything worse then herpes I or the Clap.June 1, 2006 at 2:24 pm #14604
AIDS has been cured over and over using blood electrification and ozonation. You think Magic Johnson is taking AZT? Get real!
Lung problems can be wiped out with MesoSilver and an Omron nebulizer.
BTW, I have one gay friend who is 75 years old, built like a bodybuilder, smokes crack on occassion and has had over 10,000 partners. He has carposi on-and-off but never sick and still alive.
Then again, he topped all the time and clearly has powerful chi. When you see these gay movies (yes, I watch all sorts of things) and see these morons with the prolapsed colons getting fisted in slings while high on tina, it ain’t no virus killing them off…June 1, 2006 at 3:18 pm #14606
I haven’t followed this stuff very closely lately.
The information presented by Duesberg, et al is quite compelling in several ways.
Number one is that proper scientific protocols of Hypothesis proof have not been followed.
Proper epidemiological studies have not been carried out. And the epidemiological evidence which is present throws off all sorts of noise which creates questions that no one has yet answered.
Since this video you linked to is 10 years old give or take, where does the research of Duesberg and his critics stand at this point in time? Do you know.
It seems that there would have been some attempt from some quarters to scientifically refute his allegations.
What do you know about what has transpired since this documentary came out in 1996?
CraigJune 1, 2006 at 4:22 pm #14608
Don’t get AIDS!June 2, 2006 at 5:46 am #14610
To answer your questions:
– Am I ‘gay’ ? well, I like to have sex with men and women, but I find it easier to relate to men. Most of my sexual encounters were with men.
– I never used any kind of drugs, not even marihuana or poppers. Some alcohol only
– I had about 40 partners in 20 years, and with them I had about 80 sexual encounters
– For the last nine years I have lived more or less like a monk: maybe 10 sexual encounters, and ( following Chinese medicine ) I reduced solo sex with ejaculation to about three times a month.
– How did I contract ‘HIV’ ? In those 20 years I have had only two encounters (with the same man) involving anal sex without a condom. So I guess that is when it happened.
As you can see the life style factors could not possibly be the cause of AIDS for me. In fact my life style probably accounts for the fact that I did not die of AIDS yet.
So why did your ‘wild’ heterosexual friends get AIDS ? Maybe because:
– they were lucky: some people can heavily smoke and drink and live 100 years
– HIV entered the west through gay men: the contacts between the heterosexual community and the gay community ( through bisexual men ) are probably not very intensive or with a low risk of infection, so HIV tends to stay within the borders of the gay community.
– the mode of infection: passive anal sex is probably the only sex that has a high risk of infection. So ‘ideally’ first someone has to be fucked by a man with HIV, and later on he has to fuck another man. If he anally fucks a woman the HIV probably does not spread any further, as she in her turn cannot fuck another man in the arse.
As far as the “heterosexual AIDS epidemic” in Africa is concerned it is very difficult to say anything with certainty as the figures are very unreliable. We had better base our conclusions on western data.
I shall write a more detailed mail on my experiences with the views of the ‘AIDS dissidents’ later on.
Wandering OakJune 2, 2006 at 10:07 am #14612
Thank you for your advice ! I am going to look into the zapper. The healthy diet has been there all the time, the spiritual practices too ( although not consistently enough I gather).
As far as the poisonous medicine is concerned, I am afraid I do not have many alternatives. Probably the pills work against HIV, but at a very high cost. For me personally the worst effect of the pills is the effect on the fat in my body. Within less than a year I lost all the fat in my face, arms, legs and buttocks. It looks terrible. I hardly dare to show my face. Sitting or biking is painful. To my great disappointment, when I stopped my medication for 1.5 years the fat did not return. Fortunately I did not accumulate fat in my belly, like some people who now look like a pregnant skeleton. But I do look like a normal skeleton…
So I am happy to hear about any alternatives !
Wandering OakJune 2, 2006 at 3:41 pm #14614
Fasting like Max suggest can be a good thing to do yet it can be a very bad thing to do as well. I have no opinion whether ‘aids’ is a good indication for fasting. If you consider doing it I would really check this out first.
I just add a small piece on the ‘psychological’ aspect of aids, maybe it can help you to take this with you in your meditation practice. The words are general spoken, not directed to you personally.
“Your self doubt and self denial is blocking your natural immunesystem. You refuse to wear the Crown of a Complete human: you run away from who you are. You have a judgment about yourself. You feel ‘bad’ or guilty. It is possible you run into sexual relationships as a Compensation of your own so called ‘smallness’. This brings you even further away from your own center. Nobody can fill that empty feeling. You feel powerless, suppressed or bonded. You came into the world with feelings of Doubt about your own Mastery and Power and Immunity. Only through confrontation you can dissolve this underlying issue. Aids is helping to find the real cure for the pain in this world: Trust, Power of the Consciousness and Love.
Love yourself, believe in the Power of your own consciousness and from this the healing power in your own body. Don’t distrust your inner powers, no doubts. Don’t shut down your immunesystem by rejecting your full worthy existance and your right for Love. It is obvious that aids is working through those groups of people who feel denied and discriminated. You are no longer a victim. Accept your specific nature with love.”
Re-activate your thymus gland by knocking with a soft fist on your chest bone, every day for quite some time. Afterwards meditate on it and bring as much light into it as you can hold. It will stimulate your heart as well and can bring your self love to activation, bringing sadness and pain on the surface as well.
Loving embraceJune 3, 2006 at 4:06 pm #14616
What Wendy says about fasting is true. You have to know whether it is OK for you or not. The reason it would not be OK is that in some situations the effect of fasting is to further tire an already tired system. One would want to build the organs’ strength so the overall function of the organs is enhanced.
Wendy’s words thereafter are an echo of what has been going on in my mind about your situation (“Your self doubt and self denial is blocking your natural immune system. You refuse to wear the Crown of a Complete human: you run away from who you are. You have a judgment about yourself…”)
Explore the deeper levels of self-hatred, guilt and fear. Your healing will come only when these levels are addressed, no matter what you do on the outside. While it is necessary for one to do what feels appropriate externally to take care of onesself, the external remedies do not reach the core of the energetic issues which are the root of one’s problems. They are merely supportive of the act of changing yourself. Self-love = self-healing. You must turn your energy from negative to positive.
Blessings, AlexanderJune 6, 2006 at 7:53 am #14618
Hi Wendy and Alexander,
Thank you for your support and advice ! I shall consider the fasting, zapping and urine therapy most carefully.
However, I guess that the ‘psychological’ aspects are indeed the root of my problems, especially the question of self-hatred versus self-love. I do not know what to think about reincarnation, but my childhood would shure be enough to cause these problems.
Some of my reflections…
What is this self-doubt and self-denial that might be blocking my immune system ? And what is self-love, by contrast ? I may have found a viable answer.
My mistake was that I only looked at outside world. So I thought that self-love was about being egoistic, grabbing everything in the outside world and keeping it for yourself. Or approving anything that you might do. I tried that, but it did not work. I felt guilty and miserable all the time.
Now I understand that love has more to do with the inside world. Michael Winn’s E-book on the Inner Smile has been a great eye-opener for me. When I read it, it finally it dawned on that my body is really ‘alive’: it has spirit, or better: spirits. Although I have been studying Healing Tao for some years now, I still had the attitude that my body and its organs were simply things, that should do as I willed. Now I understand that the organs are relatively independent, and that they deserve respect, for they are quite powerful.
I used to think the concept of the ‘Unconscious’ awkward, but maybe it just describes the influence of these “body gods”. They are like the archetypes of C.G. Jung or the Children of the Inner Child Work. I guess that these spirits are like children in that they do not consider much the effect of their actions on the rest of the body. Enlightenment has probably to do with them harmonious working together.
So I find that self-love is actually love directed at the inside world, at my body. It is about respect and tenderness for my organ spirits and for the spirits of my body in general. So this is how meditation, and enlightenment, can be love!
I try to maintain this attitude now during the Healing Tao exercises and the Zen meditation that I do. That is not easy because I tend to internalise the unloving, disrespectful attitudes that our world is full of. But when I succeed, it feels quite differently and much better. I hope it will make everything much more effective.
thanks again and with love,
Wandering OakJune 6, 2006 at 8:35 am #14620June 6, 2006 at 2:51 pm #14622
I read a testimonial from a terminal AIDS patient who cured himself and stayed cureds by eating large amounts of virgin coconut oil and coconut every day. I have never had AIDS, but I have lived largely on coconut for months at a time, and never felt better in my life.
you might also try Dr. Tom Cowan’s website, http://www.fourfoldhealing.com. he would be able to direct you to some resources.
Finally, I hear from David Hudson that a lot of AIDS patients have seen good results from using microcluster rhodium. There are a number of producers. You might take a look at http://www.subtleenergies.com/ormus/tw/sources.htm for a number of different companies that make microcluster rhodium. They call it m-state or Ormus or ORMEs.June 7, 2006 at 3:25 am #14624
Some more for you, WO…
“What is this self-doubt and self-denial that might be blocking my immune system ? And what is self-love, by contrast ? I may have found a viable answer.”
Yes, that’s the way. But be careful not to become analytical. Stay with the feelings and the understandings will come. And make yourself look at what you don’t want to see. This is where the inner smile can be most effective. You can melt your resistance and fear with it. Also, doubt and denial must be replaced with their opposites in your system. You’ll have to set a clear intention about what/who you want to become without being controlling. All situations are transitional. You’re trying to complete something that’s happening inside you. Let it take place and cooperate with it and transmute whatever comes up for you.
“My mistake was that I only looked at outside world. So I thought that self-love was about being egoistic, grabbing everything in the outside world and keeping it for yourself. Or approving anything that you might do. I tried that, but it did not work. I felt guilty and miserable all the time.”
You are on a learning path. And your body is reflecting for you (and others) in order to help you transmute deeper energies in your subconscious. One of the most important things we can do for ourselves and others is to see how we create guilt and why, and then to learn how to be kind instead and how not to make an issue out of everything. It’s about innocence, which is a state of awakened power.
“I used to think the concept of the ‘Unconscious’ awkward, but maybe it just describes the influence of these “body gods”. They are like the archetypes of C.G. Jung or the Children of the Inner Child Work. I guess that these spirits are like children in that they do not consider much the effect of their actions on the rest of the body. Enlightenment has probably to do with them harmonious working together.”
Exactly. To do that you have to communicate properly with them.
“So I find that self-love is actually love directed at the inside world, at my body. It is about respect and tenderness for my organ spirits and for the spirits of my body in general. So this is how meditation, and enlightenment, can be love!”
Yes. And you have to bring it all into the lower dantien and recirculate it. The love must be grounded.
“I try to maintain this attitude now during the Healing Tao exercises and the Zen meditation that I do. That is not easy because I tend to internalise the unloving, disrespectful attitudes that our world is full of.”
You might try asking yourself what you get from doing this and see if you can understand what the pattern is about.
“But when I succeed, it feels quite differently and much better. I hope it will make everything much more effective.”
If you continue, it will. It will probably help a lot if you get some good guidance from a teacher/supporter in person to help with the process. Also, asking for celestial assistance can be very effective.
Blessings, AlexanderJune 8, 2006 at 6:35 pm #14626
Coincidentally, I was at a local Indian foods market recently, saw coconut oil ($4/bottle) and thought yummmmm!. Got it home and started using it in stuff, tried half a spoonful straight and my body really liked it. Search the web for “coconut oil”; its a miracle cure for some people.
j> I read a testimonial from a terminal AIDS patient who cured himself and stayed cureds by eating large amounts of virgin coconut oil and coconut every day. I have never had AIDS, but I have lived largely on coconut for months at a time, and never felt better in my life. >
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