October 19, 2007 at 5:47 pm #25179
>>I find these type of responses fascinating and deeply moving.< < Yes indeed. >>Yes, that sounds very interesting to me. I would like to know more about correlating remedy creation with solar/lunar cycles. I’m doing a bit of this now with the dragon bone tincture I’m making. I expose it to the light of the full moon, and the sunrise before I decant and bottle. But am unaware of the solar cycle that I’m dancing with.< < Well I understood there was a recipe for that one you're doing, which I don't know... it doesn't matter *which* full moon you're using then? In my case it is all by western astrology. I solarize water at the new moon, that is, expose it to sunlight. Essentially at the new moon you get pure sun energy. Do that 12 times, once for each sign, and you have a set of solarized waters each of which can be used depending on what you are doing. Fire issues get fire signs etc. Each sign rules a part of the body, and each has a role in the astro chart, which you can look to for guidance where you want to balance things out. (I'm also convinced each is linked to a meridian... somehow... ^_^ any ideas on that?) You can look at the aspects of each planet on a given day. When I use them I always am looking at the moon. To strengthen something I'm using the waxing moon, to clear something out the waning moon, and so forth. That's a little of how that works, I'm still experimenting! >>I have found that cures solely by this method are not strong enough to make it to the place they need to go… I’ve found the results to be similar to the meditation remedy – like listening to a distant song. Interesting, but not curative. Not sure that they ‘should’ be either, but your method that incorporates solar/lunar influences and of long duration might be the right stuff.< < I follow, to me there are several keys to making it actually have a strong effect, but you have to remember - I do this as part of a purely *personal* practice and had never thought to make these things for others, indeed wouldn't know how. I think this 'personal touch' may be part of what helps it to work for me, the other things being: that it has to be repeated and timed right, in accord with the will, and absolutely (as you said) you have to be neutral, no 'lust of result', you have to put the whole thing and its purpose out of your mind and not interfere. My thing is to do many things at once all with the same sigil: - Use water, solarized and or with magnets - Go inside to an energy blockage and place the sigil on the blockage - Activate the sigil with a ritual etc. etc. The sigil comes from automatic writing, 'kinesiologically' if you like, or else by a method I've previously agreed with my deep self. The key is always combining many things and allowing it all to *build*. Each sigil can also have an associated mantra/chant, and this can be repeated over the water, can be said in meditation, etc. I build these things up in time with the rhythm of the planets, especially the moon. Sometimes I time it for something specifically so that a two-week period climaxes at full moon or new moon. The moon is like a constant tide washing in and out, and to me it's always been the whole key because it is always now waxing, now waning and this is how it should be with me! In other words to change myself I notice I always have to do half bringing in the positive, half allowing the negative to wash off, each at its right time. >>I am curious why you like calendula. Have you found it to be a universal curative or base?< < No it's not a curative although it's a nice little tonic of course. What it *is* for sure is a substance which definitely absorbs astral influences very strongly. That doesn't mean it would be useful for you, but this is known in magic for sure. Calendula tea or tincture will hold chi and intention, will vivify things. If you want to make the good ol' magical classic, the speaking statue, make it with plaster of paris that's soaked in calendula tea not water. It will hold the energy and the intention and bring it to life. This may not be of much interest to you but it has been very helpful to me so I just mention it... there are other 'natural fluid condensers' of this kind, as well as much more complex ones of which Franz Bardon was the master - see his 'Initiation'. He describes alchemical remedies as simply being very effective fluid condensers. His work might well be worth a look for you... >>I’m not yet doing any remedy creation myself, but I suspect I will in the not too distant future.< < It certainly sounds like you are where you need to be for all that, with the new realizations from kan & li etc. >>Radionics works this way also. You can use a picture, a hair, skin, nail clipping, etc. and treat the person. We don’t do that here, but it can be done.< < Wow fantastic. You are confirming what Simon suspected here, he had just been on a radionic weekend and he insisted that at least some of the machines were much more about focussing intention than anything else. >>The photo, hair, nail clipping, etc. is a recording/imprint of the energetic signature of your subject. Some might be more effective than others, but I think they all fall into that category.< < Yes absolutely. This is why voodoo healers have dolls with blood on them! It is because they need the signature. If you go on hoodoo sites you will even find lists of these 'links' to people, in order of effectiveness! >>As far as eating the energy ‘only’ of a food, I feel that might be disrespectful to the food and its spirit. In the same way that focusing on our spirit and ignoring our body is.<< Yes you could be correct. Dolphin this is all fascinating I keep wanting to ask Simon what he thinks, maybe I can drag him on here.... 🙂 And as far as you being a medical man or not - well if Hahneman was you are IMHO. I have one more question, I have just been reading a (very!) little on homeopathy, what is your theory as someone who does energy work on what is the reason for the dilution and shaking? How do you see that because it seems to me different people say different things... jOctober 20, 2007 at 8:54 am #25180
I would love to know the Taoist counterpart to this, at the moment, purely western explanation. Of course everyone is looking at the same sun and moon, but I’m sure there is some additional perspective to be gained from the Chinese approach.
This info should be useful for anyone (like Dolphin) making remedies, but also anyone taking them and wanting to think about when to do what as far as detoxing, changing character traits, etc. I have been following the cycles for a few months now and the more I use them to time things the better everything works.
There are basically two cycles here, the monthly and the yearly.
The moon relates to what I guess taoists call the ‘yin body’, this means the ‘deep self’ of chaos magicians, ‘subconsious’ of psychoanalysts etc. as well because they haven’t realized this thing is a body as well as a mind! In witchcraft it is often call the ‘alpha body’, the kabbalists called it the ‘nephesh’, etc. Being yin it has a strong link to the physical body and its health/strength, and it also is responsible for dreams, symbolism and mystery in general. I’ll call it the ‘alpha body’ right now, just because I’m not absolutely sure ‘yin body’ means the same thing – perhaps someone else can help here?
MOON BASIC MONTHLY CYCLE
The moon’s basic monthly cycle is of course – from new moon, waxing up to full moon, then waning back down to new. (In the Northern hemisphere it will appear that the crescent of the moon is on the *right* whilst it is waxing and on the *left* whilst it is waning, but in the Southern hemisphere, this is reversed.)
When the moon is *waning*, energy is naturally *leaving* the alpha body and thus the bodily system in general. It is like the outbreath or the tide going out. If you want to detoxify something that is a good time to do it. When the moon has waned completely we have a new moon, which is like the fulcrum-point where outbreath becomes inbreath. It is a time of new beginnings but also of finally jettisoning fully something old.
When the moon then starts *waxing* energy is naturally *entering* the alpha body and the system in general. This is like the inbreath or the tide coming in. If you want to fortify something that is a good time to do it. When the moon has waxed completely we get a full moon, which is like the fulcrum-point of maximum inhale and beginning of exhale. It is a time when the energy is fully gathered and beginning to work, so it is a time when magicians are all doing things!
MOON HIDDEN YEARLY CYCLE
The moon works alongside the sun in a certain way throughout the year. For this explanation I am using the western astrological signs, which I believe, have applications that have not really been fully appreciate yet.
As I’m sure most people will know, the sun proceeds round the signs through the course of the year, staying in each for a month. For example, later this month the sun will enter Scorpio and will remain there for a about a month.
In our Gregorian dating system, the signs tend to occupy roughly the last third of one calendar month and the first two thirds of the month following. For example the Sun will be entering Scorpio on October the 24th, and it will remain there for the rest of October, and then through the first two thirds of November – until the 22nd to be precise.
The interesting thing is what the moon does during this time. During the *second* calendar month of the sun’s stay in any sign, at some point you will find a new moon also in that sign. For example, there will be a new moon in Scorpio this year on Saturday the 10th of November, when the sun is also in Scorpio. This is a moment when sun and moon join.
After this new moon, for a full six months, the moon will enter Scorpio *only whilst it is waning*. That means, for a full half of a year, although the monthly cycle wanes and waxes, the Scorpio system only wanes. It is only ever entered and activated by the *waning* moon for that whole six months.
An example: the new moon appears in Scorpio on November 10. After this, the moon will enter Scorpio again one month later – in December *right at the end of the moon’s waning*, just *before* the new moon (which in December will occur in Sagittarius). Each month after this, the waning moon enters Scorpio, but *slightly early in the wane each time*.
This process comes to a completion in May of next year. At that time the sun will have entered the Sign of Taurus – the *opposite sign* of Scorpio. There will of course be a new moon in Taurus in that month, but there will also be a *full moon* in Scorpio.
After that, for the next 6 months following, the moon will enter the sign of Scorpio *only when waxing*, again earlier and earlier in the waxing process, until finally in November the cycle begins again with a new moon in Scorpio.
So we can say, from November until May the Scorpio moon is *waning*, but from May to November it is *waxing*.
The sign of Scorpio, which I am using here as an example, rules in western astrology the sexual organs – not only the genitals but also the prostate, ovaries and so forth. So from November until May, you can clean out your sexual system because you are natural going with the flow of the moon which is waning in Scorpio. Whereas from May to November you can fortify your sexual system.
This goes not only for the organs themselves but for personal habits concerned with them, which are stored in the alpha body and which also wax and wane with the moon. If you want to give up a bad sexual habit, (eg an addiction) during November until May is the time to do it, and under a waning moon. You will find it alot easier!
These cycles occur exactly the same for each sign in turn, and each sign rules a different area of the body and personality – any basic astrology book will give the correspondences. I am trying to work out what is the connection with the 12 ordinary meridians too, but so far I don’t know. Of course Chinese astrology does not work in the same way at all as Western. In the West we work from top of head (aries) to feet (pisces), in a way like an embryo developing.
The principles above are universal I guess but they will strike different individuals in different ways, so if you use these things, experiment and find out how you are reacting to all of them in your own unique way.October 20, 2007 at 10:35 am #25182October 20, 2007 at 6:40 pm #25184
“Do that 12 times, once for each sign, and you have a set of solarized waters each of which can be used depending on what you are doing.”
Practical question: Are you preserving your water? Ie alcohol or some other stabilizer? Water likes to join itself with its surroundings, especially more oxygen.
Thanks very much for your description of your process of using the moon and sun signs. Still digesting your response.
“Franz Bardon was the master – see his ‘Initiation’. He describes alchemical remedies as simply being very effective fluid condensers. His work might well be worth a look for you… ”
Thanks for the pointer. I will check him out.
“hat Simon suspected here, he had just been on a radionic weekend and he insisted that at least some of the machines were much more about focussing intention than anything else.”
Yes, I very strongly believe and have a good amount of experience to back it up – but that doesn’t mean there aren’t alternative explanations – that radionics is primarily an intent focuser and means to realize that intent.
“And as far as you being a medical man or not – well if Hahneman was you are IMHO.”
Thank you very much for your kind words!
“what is your theory as someone who does energy work on what is the reason for the dilution and shaking? ”
This is a controversial subject. Since starting at Celletech I’ve come to find that the dilution and shaking (succussing) is a means to get at the energetic signature of the substance and to dilute the (frequently) toxic substance. Controversial statement: All homeopathic remedies are primarily magnetically-based energetic signatures. Homeopathy is not biology, it is physics.
PS Another big thank you for putting me in contact with Simon!October 20, 2007 at 7:22 pm #25186
>>Practical question: Are you preserving your water? Ie alcohol or some other stabilizer? Water likes to join itself with its surroundings, especially more oxygen.<>Thanks very much for your description of your process of using the moon and sun signs. Still digesting your response.<>Yes, I very strongly believe and have a good amount of experience to back it up – but that doesn’t mean there aren’t alternative explanations – that radionics is primarily an intent focuser and means to realize that intent.<>Homeopathy is not biology, it is physics.<>PS Another big thank you for putting me in contact with Simon<<
Oh no problem! I'm glad I was able to do that. jOctober 21, 2007 at 10:30 am #25188
“perhaps this is a private mail question?”
Sounds good to me.
“It may well enhance the effect of that intent in some way also”
Sorry, I should have been more descriptive. As I understand the method: the radionics device first helps focus the intent of the user, but then adds quite a bit of energy to that intent. The device I pointed you to – the LRI – sounds like it gives quite a boost. The creator of the device – Nick Franks – describes the boost as coming from the Psi field. I’ve heard that term, but am not familiar with its specifics. I think that he is able to reach into the space I’ve heard described as the zero point field, or the neutral force.
“>>Homeopathy is not biology, it is physics.<< Ah well there I'd have to disagree somewhat"
For clarity, I'm saying something fairly specific here. One of the main trends in contemporary homeopathy is to try to explain it as nanopharmacology – ie still biologically-based. I think that's a mistake. There is no material left after a 12x or 6c potency. So it has to be energetically-based and therefore falls into the realm of physics. Neither discipline can yet explain how homeopathy works. I think there's a long way to go before science catches up with a good model that does explain it. William Tiller is doing interesting work in this area.
"Do you think this is all down to single-remedies-don't-work?"
I would like to know much more about what you are 'seeing'. I think we should pull this off into private email as I think we're going down into too much detail for this board. To answer your question above: I think that a single remedy can work much better when set in an appropriate complex. I've been poking around in this area for awhile now, and am getting much better results using complexes. And I'm starting with good singles. But again, I'd like to know more about what you're seeing before I rule out the singles idea.
-mlOctober 21, 2007 at 10:31 am #25190October 21, 2007 at 11:15 am #25192October 22, 2007 at 1:10 pm #25194
Why not look at the teory of morphoenetic fields instead. They should realy have some qualities that are equal to the effects of the homeopathy pils. The form the memory from the substance you make some potential of (dilution of the substance) could some how be saved in the morphogeneticfields. (Its actually what the morf_field always is doing save some memory of earlier forms and efects) It’s actually much harder to see how some magnetic field could still be there after the dilution. As I see it.
To understund homeopathy should then be equvalent to understund the morfogenteticfields.
This is then bothh biology and physics combined. There might be some mathematical or physical models describing the morfogentetic field and the fields efect is studied in the subject biology.
I think the mathematics of morfological fields already is developed. Then I say the morfological fields is about equvalent with the implicit order in David Bohms interpretation of kvantum physics. The only interpretation that makes any sence realy.
The must common interpretations is all wery wierd:
1 The Kopenhagen interpretation. Its about duality saying an particle can sometimes act as an particle and sometimes as a filed.
Comment: This was of coarse a brilint solution from Niels Bohr but it realy says nothing about how the universe is functioning. It more or less a working model so that they at least had a possible interpretaion to the at that time new scientific subject. Einstein did coment this is not true the god isn’t casting dies.
2 The interpretation of the many universes.
Coment: This is even more absurd everytime its happening that a particle have decided its state of condition the universe is splitting into two universes. With all the splittings of all the particles in the universe the number of universes will be much bigger than the number of atoms. SORRY MICHAEL
3 The kvantum mathematics is just math that works on telling how to calculate on what happens on the microlevel it has nothing to do with how the universe is.
comment: Realy absurd. If we want to know anything about the world we are living in we should be able to look at what happens even at the atomic and subatomic level. Every other theory in physics is telling us something how the universe works.
4 THe theory of the implicit order
Coment: This works. With every particle is there a field following the particle. This field describes the possibilities the partiCle will have in the future. The field will change for instance if the particle is moving true a barier or other things that change the possibilities the particle will have in the future.
This implicit order of the materia is then given a mathematical formulation. And its all comes up to a wery good description of how the universe is working. And perhaps a model for the morphogenetical-fields also. This field is not decreasing with distance or with time its always the same everywhere. And its descibed like this and there are some other solurions possible also.
The homeopaty gives then a field that is saying to the other fields I’m ill the body is ill and you have to correct it. The conglomerat of fields is then starting a since earlier time reactions in the organism that is destroing the illness or have it to disapear.
Sincerely S Dragon
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