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August 9, 2014 at 1:45 pm #42719ribosome777Participant
the worst: he does not even teach the real technique or steam
in 13 cd’s not even a mention of steaming,
and the real technique is never even covered…the real technique sets up a pentagonal flow to connect the five organs to the brain…
with steaming being critical the whole process..
instead you get channeled junk from “Yokar”…
http://www.sophistimom.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/pound-cake.jpg
August 9, 2014 at 5:23 pm #42720StevenModeratorAnd how did you learn the “real” technique?
Did you get a private training with One Cloud while he was still alive?Too bad you didn’t actually attend the retreat this summer live, like some of us here on the Forum did. You might have actually learned something.
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August 10, 2014 at 5:26 am #42722c_howdyParticipantThe Kawasaki ZX-7R was a sport bike made by Kawasaki from 1996 to 2003. It replaced the more race-oriented ZXR-750 in the 750cc supersports class. It remained largely unchanged through its production. Between 1990 and 1995 in the US market the ZXR-750 and ZXR-750R were known as ZX-7 and ZX-7R respectively. Starting from 1996 Kawasaki dropped the ZXR name adopting the ZX-7R worldwide.
-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kawasaki_Ninja_ZX-7RKawasaki Ninja is the trademarked name of several series of Kawasaki sport bikes, that started with the 1984 GPZ900R. In feudal Japan, a “ninja” was a covert agent or mercenary specialized in unorthodox combat.
-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kawasaki_NinjaI have impression that there are really no reason to complain.
It’s very easy to check nature of the first half of the practices which at least M. Chia is teaching from that compilation book (Basic Practices of the Universal healing Tao-An Illustrated Guide to Levels 1 through 6).
One should also notice that to master full curriculum it’s useful to as early as possible try to develop sense how to maintain steady practice with all essential elements.
Actually somebody could claim that there is too much information.
HOWDY
Ps. Sorry for my broken English.
August 10, 2014 at 7:16 am #42724c_howdyParticipantAll books by M. Chia excluding those too numerous sex manuals.
Essential books by Swami Satyananda Saraswati and Swami Niranjanananda’s Pranayama book & Dharana Darshan.
Authentic Shaolin Heritage: Training Methods Of 72 Arts Of Shaolin by Jin Jing Zhong.
Wong Kiew Kit’s The Complete Book of Shaolin: Comprehensive Programme for Physical, Emotional, Mental and Spiritual Development & The Complete Book of Tai Chi Chuan: A Comprehensive Guide to the Principles and Practice.
Michael Saso’s The Teachings of Taoist Master Zhuang & Tantric Art and Meditation.
The Marathon Monks of Mount Hiei by John Stevens.
Taoist Yoga: Alchemy & Immortality by Zhao Bichen.
And so on.
HOWDY
Ps. For some real hermit practitioners primitive survival skills are important. So also essential field guides from Tom Brown, Jr. Sorry for my broken English.
August 11, 2014 at 12:21 am #42726ribosome777ParticipantAugust 11, 2014 at 12:22 am #42728August 11, 2014 at 12:23 am #42730August 13, 2014 at 3:24 am #42732c_howdyParticipantIf somebody is interested about I Ching one particular book by Robert Temple is quite nice.
First part of book about Mediterranean oracle centers is very nice and the second about the Book of Changes is very unfinished, in my opinion. Also some totally unrelated material is presented like in his several other books.
But it’s the bibliography for the second part which makes it also in the end interesting.
There are quite great amount very obscure monographs about I Ching which one can partly read from Google Books or try to order from the nearest university library as an interlibrary loan.
Recommended.
HOWDY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjgBTolrAKk (mortalkombat9storymodending)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAwWPadFsOA (mktheme)August 16, 2014 at 8:45 am #42734c_howdyParticipantThis (contra-survival engram) is any kind of engram which lies across the dynamics and has no alignment with purpose: Fight between mother and father shortly after conception. Father strikes mother in stomach. She screams (first percepts are pain, pressure, sound of blow and scream) and he says, God damn you, I hate you! You are no good. Im going to kill you! Mother says, Please dont hit me again. Please dont. Im hurt. Im hurt. Im frantic with pain! Father says, Lie there and rot, damn you! Good-bye!
-L. RON HUBBARD, Dianetics-The Modern Science of Mental Health, Book III, Chapter 8, Some Type of EngramsEmotion is a theta quantity, which is to say that it is so involved with life forces that dianetics at this stage handles it with invariable success but does not attempt to give forth more than a descriptive theory. Much research must be done on emotion; but so long as the therapy embraces it and releases it with success, further data can be dispensed with up to a point. Emotion would have to be divided sharply into minus emotions and plus emotions. The minus emotion would be non-survival in character, the plus emotion would be pro-survival.The pleasant and pleasurable emotions are not of any great concern to us here. It is believed that all emotion is the same thing but in its aspects above Zone 1 it can be by-passed as unnecessary to explain at this time for the purpose of this book.
-L. RON HUBBARD, Dianetics-The Modern Science of Mental Health, Book II, Chapter 6, Emotion and DynamicsThe proposition on which dianetics was originally entered was evolution. It was
postulated that the cells themselves had the urge to survive and that that urge was common to life. It was further postulated that organisms — individuals — were constructed of cells and were in fact aggregations of colonies of cells. As went the building block, so went the organism. In the finite realms and for any of our purposes, Man could be considered to be a colonial aggregation of cells and it could be assumed that his purpose was identical with the purpose of his building blocks.
The cell is a unit of life which is seeking to survive and only to Survive. Man is a structure of cells which are asking to survive, and only to survive. Mans mind is the command post of operation and is constructed to resolve problems and pose problems related to survival and only to survival. The action of survival, if optimum, would lead to survival. The optimum survival conduct pattern was formulated and then studied for exceptions, and there were no exceptions found. The survival conduct pattern was discovered to be far from sterile and barren but was
full of rich and most pleasant activity. None of these postulates outlawed any concept concerning the human soul or divine or creative imagination. It was understood perfectly that this was a study in the finite universe only and that spheres and realms of thought and action might very well exist above this finite
sphere. But it was also discovered that none of these factors were needed to resolve the entire problem of aberration and irrational conduct. The human mind was discovered to have been most grossly maligned, for it was found to be possessed of capabilities far in excess of any heretofore imagined much less tested.
Basic human character was found to have been pilloried because Man had not been able
to distinguish between irrational conduct derived from poor data and irrational conduct derived from another, far more vicious source. If there ever was a devil, he designed the reactive mind. This functional mechanism managed to bury itself from view so thoroughly that only inductive philosophy, traveling from effect back to cause, served to uncover it. The detective work which was invested in the location of this arch criminal of the human psyche occupied many years. Its identity can now be certified by any technician in any clinic or in any group of men. Two hundred and seventy-three individuals have been examined and treated, representing all the various types of inorganic mental illness and the many varieties of psycho-somatic ills.
-L. RON HUBBARD, Dianetics-The Modern Science of Mental Health, Book II, Chapter 2, The Reactive Mindthere is no such thing as a NEGATIVE EMOTION,
there is such a thing as RIGHT JUDGEMENT
-http://forum.healingdao.com/general/message/24504/Sorry for my broken English.
This refutation of the reality of negative emotions have been many times proposed.
These clearly have not been reasonable.
But first of all one should some way become aware which is one’s own frame of reference.
This is a hands-on problem.
So for this there have been designed practices and also of course new ones could be created.
Next stage could be active effort to reformulate one’s own affectional reference frame for the positive direction; then learning to always to create new solutions in varying situations etc.
For immediate purposes Hubbard have found again right kind of preliminary mental tools (minus emotion~non-survival, plus emotion~pro-survival), but clearly Scientological tools are one-sidedly superficial compared to advanced yogic practices.
HOWDY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZT7en0I4qzI (impalednazarene)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oghiJpkQZgE (mayhemwallofwater)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyVWQH7jIg8 (satrianice9)Basal metabolic rate (BMR), and the closely related resting metabolic rate (RMR), is the rate of energy expenditure by humans and other animals at rest, and is measured in kJ per hour per kg body mass. Rest is defined as existing in a neutrally temperate environment while in the post-absorptive state. In plants, different considerations apply. The release, and using, of energy in this state is sufficient only for the functioning of the vital organs: the heart, lungs, nervous system, kidneys, liver, intestine, sex organs, muscles, brain and skin.
-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basal_metabolic_rateMetastability describes the extended time spent by an isolated system in a long lived configuration other than the system’s state of least energy. During a metastable state of finite lifetime all state-describing parameters reach and hold stationary values.
-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MetastabilitySeptember 5, 2014 at 2:13 am #42736Michael WinnKeymasterDon’t you have better things to do than blow hot air about topics that you are unqualified to review? You sound like someone stuck spinning concepts in their head.
Hint (since you obviously did not get it):
There is no “steam” at the Star Alchemy level because the jing that drives the steaming process has been converted into Qi and Shen in the previous three Kan and Li levels. This is Oversoul material, not body-mind or soul trying to figure out what to do with sexual energy.
Mantak Chia never learned this level from his teacher, so please don’t quote some manual written by one of his students as some kind of authority.
-m
September 5, 2014 at 10:02 am #42738ribosome777Participantyou know they use steam in it…
1) regardless of supposed result, the premise that someone is going to be so “deeply” embodied by projecting imaginary fields outside their body or somehow into deep space is ludicrously oxy-moronic at best,
completely schizophrenic at worst..
even if it was to work, someone would think that common sense would dictate using energy INSIDE their body instead of some completely unprove-able exterior thing
2) how is the entrance of a possessing entity through the back of someone’s neck, speaking through their vocal system not complete exorcist level demon like possession? I mean really…
3) the belly is a YIN center, the entire tone is female.. I am not intending to be too insulting here, but the entire presentation is incontrovertibly feminine.. to the point that one more mention of birthing is enough to discredit the whole thing…
4) you have never once come back with a valid explanation for why the chi of fire, water etc would be one for one here on Earth, yet the warm moist planet of femininity passed down for some 2500 odd years would be “cool and dry” when it is actually warm and moist… where is the intrinsic discretion?
as you can clearly see, I am personally in favor that th eplanet does correlate to lung chi, but certainly not on such empty footing
5) you have slipped everyone, whether you realize it or not, the willy that somehow a borderline pathological nullification of their natural repsonses and emotions is their “TRUE SELF”…
READ AGAIN:
YOU HAVE SLIPPED EVERYONE THE WILLY THAT A BORDERLINE PATHOLOGICAL NULLIFICATION OF THEIR NATURAL RESPONSES AND EMOTIONS IS THEIR TRUE SELF…
I do not think you intended this, but it is the DEFINITION of a brain wash cult…
again, I am in EVEN IN favor that gold does pertain, light frequency and chemically to a genuine SOUL, but that is not what this turned into…
that is EXACTLY how you broke from the original lineage… and yes, I really am in a position to know that…
I kindly suggest that you did not realize this or possibly could not handle realizing this in th eprocess but it is a
BIG DEAL..
over 15 years+ it has taken easily 50% of all people outside of your branch to see the same thing in 5 minutes..
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synonyms: compulsive, obsessive, inveterate, habitual, persistent, chronic, hardened, confirmed“a pathological liar”
September 5, 2014 at 1:42 pm #42740frechtlingParticipantSeptember 9, 2014 at 3:22 am #42742c_howdyParticipantPope Sylvester II or Silvester II (c. 946 12 May 1003) was Pope from 2 April 999 to his death in 1003. Born Gerbert d’Aurillac (Gerbert of Aurillac), he was a prolific scholar and teacher. He endorsed and promoted study of Arab/Greco-Roman arithmetic, mathematics, and astronomy, reintroducing to Europe the abacus and armillary sphere, which had been lost to Europe since the end of the Greco-Roman era. He is said to be the first to introduce in Europe the decimal numeral system using the Arabic numerals after his studies at the University of al-Karaouine in Morocco. He was the first French Pope.
-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Sylvester_II…Sylvester died in 1003, and immediately legends about his great learning surfaced, revealing the impression he made on contemporaries. Some attributed his learning to magical arts learned in Spain, some to the devils coaching, some to an artificial head that answered his questions…
-http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/577631/Sylvester-IIYOU HAVE SLIPPED EVERYONE THE WILLY THAT A BORDERLINE PATHOLOGICAL NULLIFICATION OF THEIR NATURAL RESPONSES AND EMOTIONS IS THEIR TRUE SELF…
-http://forum.healingdao.com/general/message/24661/He must begin with a certain fundamental attitude of soul. In spiritual science this fundamental attitude is called the path of veneration, of devotion to truth and knowledge. Without this attitude no one can become a student.
-RUDOLF STEINER, Knowledge of the Higher Worlds and Its AttainmentSorry for my broken English.
…even if it was to work, someone would think that common sense would dictate using energy INSIDE their body instead of some completely unprove-able exterior thing…
Here one simply shouldn’t ignore the totally involuntary nature of the infestation.
HOWDY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uz0tYD_vVIo (rondellusplanetarumvagatio)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTiUfaKjmyQ (orlandodilassolaudaanima)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAQfhZauTLs (sabbathfallingoffthedgeoftheworld)September 10, 2014 at 2:20 pm #42744ribosome777Participant‘I was at Dao Mountain in 2003.
On the last day, just before I left,
I had a quick chat with Ron Diana,
who was just driving off to the city…
He said he was hoping to get back for the weekend,
because “Michael’s” parents would be there,and seeing someone with their family was often helpful in
“finding out how they got that way.”‘
real character form Ron Diana
September 11, 2014 at 3:22 am #42746Michael WinnKeymasterHowdy,
thanks for that Sea Org photo….preciously hilarious.
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