December 3, 2008 at 4:50 am #29727
how long are you meant to do the lesser kan & li practices for? is it until you hear inner thunder or have some kind of profound experience? if so, what experience?
and when should you move on to greater kan & li? as soon as you’ve achieved the intended outcome of lesser k & l, or should you let your lesser kan & li practice settle before moving on to greater?
elaDecember 3, 2008 at 9:53 am #29728
“Traditionally”, the recommendation was 2 years practice for
each Kan & Li level. However, this time frame is an artificial
one, and really is individual. If you are a person that
practices very regularly and/or a lot, that may be way too long.
There are a lot of people that advance a new Kan and Li level
(in some cases, TWO) per year. Sometimes this is premature, and
The only way to really know is to ask yourself if you are ready or not.
If you think about it carefully, you’ll usually know.
Usually it’s time to move on to a new level when you feel
like you “own” the practice, meaning: do you feel like
you understand the practice, feel comfortable doing it,
and feel like it’s very familiar to you–if so, then advancing is reasonable.
You could also always compromise–and resources permitting–take both classes,
i.e. retake Lesser, and then follow with Greater, the subsequent week (i.e.
at Heavenly Mountain). You could also just take Greater, and if its
too much, then spend a longer time reviewing before moving on again.
I don’t know that I’ve answered your question, but maybe have given
you some food for thought.
SDecember 4, 2008 at 6:52 am #29730
ok, thanks. but are there any signs that i should be looking for as my practice develops to make sure that i’m going deep enough into the practice and not moving on prematurely?December 4, 2008 at 4:40 pm #29732
As long as you feel like you know the material–meaning
you don’t need any audio/video guidance to do it, and as
long as you feel like you could add additional practices
then that is enough.
Greater doesn’t make lesser obsolete; that’s why
there are seven formulas in White Cloud’s system . . .
each are useful in their own way. Moreover, there is
no limit on how deep you can go over time in the practice.
Michael Winn, himself, discovered new things in the practice
AFTER 25 years of practicing and teaching the material–this
is why he recently created an “Advanced Lesser Kan and Li” course
a couple years ago, and has recently been grandfathering it into
the Fusion/Lesser/Greater curriculum.
You can never run out of depth, it never becomes obsolete, and
will always be worth practicing. It’s only a matter of whether
you feel like you can handle additional material or not. Just
ask yourself that question. If the answer is no, don’t move on;
if the answer is yes, move on.
SDecember 5, 2008 at 12:38 am #29734
Get the holland advanced lesser CD set, it will advance your lesser practice more than anything. I appreciate your commitment to alchemical transformation. We live in times when transformation is happening more quickly.
-michaelDecember 5, 2008 at 7:13 am #29736
ok, thanks for your advice. michael, i’ve already got your holland cd set. i’ll spend a good amount of time making the practice my own before moving on.
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