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  • December 4, 2015 at 11:24 pm #45352
    c_howdy
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    A molecule is a collection of atoms, vibrates continuously if temperature is not absolutely zero. As electronics is controlling flow of electrons, orientation of atoms inside molecule can generate electronic property (ME). But dare not to connect it between two leads. With connection of every single additional atoms as its leads, property of the system changes. Molecular property that we want to use no longer remains. No repeated accuracy of atomic contact formation destroys the dream of ME. So, lets use forces of nature, let molecules play and create electronic circuit by self assembly. Think about a computer that grows in water as soon as you add a few molecules into it. Mankind has always attempted to build smaller tools for constructing smaller machines. However, nature changes component’s environment such that components themselve build the circuit it requires. But this is not fiction. The road starts studying single molecules very accurately, knowing grammer of its electronic or optical language using scanning tunneling microscope and advanced modelling. If having problem going back to DNA structure and learn.
    -http://www.anirbanlab.co.nr/

    Sorry, but I know that Michael Winn has advised or maybe commanded not to post sequentially if nobody else comments.

    Here it would seem to be reasonable.

    There is also very nice and easy to study book by Johnjoe Macfadden and Jim Al-Khalili.

    It’s called ‘Life on the Edge: The Coming of Age of Quantum Biology’.

    Recommended.

    HOWDY

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwgQVZju1ZM

    December 5, 2015 at 1:38 am #45354
    Steven
    Moderator

    >>>I wouldn’t too seriously try to proclaim
    >>>what is the purpose of life on this planet.

    I am not you.

    >>>Spiritual practices and development
    >>>should be the way to find an answer;

    This is how I found my answer.

    >>>not somebody telling it’s this or that way.

    Verifying things for you is not important to me.
    You need to find the answer for yourself.
    This is where practice comes in.
    Reading all the resources you do will never resolve the issue for you.

    >>>Anyway one would need to develop ability
    >>>to judge when opinion or example from an
    >>>authority is needed and when one should
    >>>try to proceed independently.

    This problem is removed by the last two sentences in my preceding paragraph.

    S

    December 5, 2015 at 3:10 am #45356
    c_howdy
    Participant

    Shruti (Sanskrit, IAST: úruti) means “that which is heard” and refers to the body of most authoritative, ancient religious texts comprising the central canon of Hinduism. It includes the four Vedas including its four types of embedded texts – the Samhitas, the Brahmanas, the Aranyakas and the early Upanishads.
    -https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%9Aruti

    Smriti (Sanskrit: स्मृति, IAST: Smṛti) literally “that which is remembered,” refers to a body of Hindu texts usually attributed to an author, traditionally written down but constantly revised, in contrast to Úrutis (the Vedic literature) considered authorless, that were transmitted verbally across the generations and fixed. Smriti is a derivative secondary work and is considered less authoritative than Sruti in Hinduism, except in Mimamsa school of Hindu philosophy. The Smrti literature is a corpus of diverse varied texts. This corpus includes, but is not limited to the six Vedângas (the auxiliary sciences in the Vedas), the epics (the Mahâbhârata and Râmâyana), the Dharmasûtras and Dharmaúâstras (or Smritiúâstras), the Arthasaúâstras, the Purânas, the Kâvya or poetical literature, extensive Bhasyas (reviews and commentaries on Shrutis and non-Shruti texts), and numerous Nibandhas (digests) covering politics, ethics (Nitisastras), culture, arts and society.
    -https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smriti

    …reading all the resources you do will never resolve the issue for you…

    Yes, this is very much same for everybody.

    But it’s also useful to discriminate, first of all, what is divinely revealed and humanely thought out.

    I do such things (reading various resources but not all) because it’s already also my part-time temporal profession besides that I like to make thorough investigations when it’s useful.

    Anyway it might be that I have had more time to dedicate both to yogic and martial arts practically, but this is totally private matter as well as who is, for example, spiritually more advanced.

    Sorry for my broken English.

    HOWDY

    December 6, 2015 at 6:27 am #45358
    rideforever
    Participant

    Far too much reading puts so many ideas in the head, and then you never practice.

    Practice removes the ideas and puts you in simple contact with life and reality. It’s not so complicated look at the animals, they seem quite happy …

    Simple practice is the best. Too many teachers just makes a mess in the head.

    All these ideas of the demiurge etc… are like some horror movie we are all trapped in, and the personality has a secret liking of being in fear all the time. It’s not good.

    The real reason for suffering is very simple, it’s just that humans would become couch potatoes without a bit of a push. That’s it, it’s not complicated. We are meant to evolve and the universe just reminds us to live a good life.

    Things are a bit out of balance in human society, some problems there for sure, but … also many good things. The planet and it’s species seem okay. And there are also many very nice spiritual teachers who can help you, that’s such a gift. All we need to is listen and follow.

    The universe is trying to help us.

    December 8, 2015 at 1:04 am #45360
    Steven
    Moderator

    True, that.

    Maybe I’m turning into a Daoist . . .

    Oops, too late.

    December 8, 2015 at 1:43 am #45362
    Steven
    Moderator

    >>>But it’s also useful to discriminate,
    >>>first of all, what is divinely revealed
    >>>and humanely thought out.

    Please explain how this is done. Be specific.

    (pause as you think about this)

    See the problem?

    To me, as soon as there is an intermediary (i.e. someone other than oneself) who is relaying information, there is no way to know for sure. Consequently, to me, most spiritual texts–such as the ones you study and quote–are garbage. They are just a way to waste and lose the limited time we have on this planet. They provide no actual insight. No matter how good they look, they just taste like plastic.

    Only through practice can you get direct information, without an intermediary.
    When such direct information is given to you–and you very clearly know its truth–the belief of others is quite irrelevant. You don’t need outside confirmation from someone else on what you already know to be true, nor are you in the least bit responsible for their growth if they “disbelieve” your story. It is *their* responsibility to grow, not yours. Opinions or doubts that others may have, is ultimately their issue, and not yours.

    >>>I do such things (reading various resources but not all) because
    >>>it’s already also my part-time temporal profession
    >>>besides that I like to make thorough investigations
    >>>when it’s useful.

    If you are already doing it and you get some fulfillment doing it, then good for you. It’s important to do what one gets true satisfaction from. This is part of the process of getting completion.

    >>>Anyway it might be that I have had more time
    >>>to dedicate both to yogic and martial arts
    >>>practically, but this is totally private
    >>>matter as well as who is, for example,
    >>>spiritually more advanced.

    You may get less “information” if you spend more time practicing instead of reading, but the information you get from practicing is of a higher quality, as there is no intermediary and you don’t need to try to verify anything. But up-to-you. It’s your life, live it how you wish.

    Just remember, we only have a finite amount of time on this planet.
    So it’s a real tragedy to spend all that time learning a ton of stuff, and in the end, learn almost nothing.

    S

    December 8, 2015 at 7:50 am #45364
    c_howdy
    Participant

    “These dudes are bad motherfuckers,” the convict says. “They exercise up to four or five hours a day. In their 24 hour lockdown cells doing burpees. It’s like their own little hell. Imagine that, these dudes in their tiny concrete cells, one running in place while the other one’s doing burpees- sort of like a jumping jack mixed with a push up.” Branded with their shamrock tattoo they read Sun Tzu’s The Art of War, Machiavelli’s The Prince and hold dear Nietzsche slogans like, “One should die proudly when it is no longer possible to live proudly.” The AB even has their own maxim, “A brother’s a brother until that brother dies.”
    -http://www.gorillaconvict.com/2013/02/a-look-at-the-aryan-brotherhood-2/

    Wow! 4-6 hours of practice per day?
    Not counting the hours spent listening to audios
    or watching qigong videos, that’s how much I was
    doing during my hermit retreat!
    That’s great!
    -http://forum.healingdao.com/general/message/22427/

    Is 4-6 hours of practice per day supposed to be enough?

    HOWDY

    December 8, 2015 at 9:16 am #45366
    Steven
    Moderator

    Often people can’t do more than that, because of simple fatigue of the body and mind that occurs as one goes beyond that amount. Some can probably do more, although 6 hours is an average upper limit I’d say if we are talking about doing it consistently over a very long period of time. Especially considering that time for sleeping, eating, bathing, resting, etc. is needed.

    Forcing oneself to do more is questionable, as it could drive the body to exhaustion and then if one dies sooner, you get less total hours of practice in obviously.

    The other big issue is that most people don’t live a hermit life. So unless independently wealthy, people need to work to make money to support themselves. This drastically cuts the amount of time one has per day. Add in email, telephone, etc. and more time gone. If a person has any recreational hobbies–things that they feel personal satisfaction with as a need for completion–then this reduces the time as well. So yes, if a person is doing 4-6 hours of practice per day in a modern life, that’s pretty outstanding in my opinion. Most are not so skilled with time management to get close to that. When I teach, I usually recommend people try for a consistent 1.5 hours, because that’s doable for most without a radical shift in their lifestyle.

    So the question isn’t “is X hours enough”? The question is how many hours can a person reasonably do, while managing the rest of their life. This is where cutting out activities that have no real value have merit.

    S

    December 8, 2015 at 10:13 am #45368
    c_howdy
    Participant

    Cavendish was a shy man who was uncomfortable in society and avoided it when he could. He conversed little, always dressed in an old-fashioned suit, and developed no known deep personal attachments outside his family. Cavendish was taciturn and solitary and regarded by many as eccentric. He only communicated with his female servants by notes. By one account, Cavendish had a back staircase added to his house in order to avoid encountering his housekeeper because he was especially shy of women. The contemporary accounts of his personality have led some modern commentators, such as Oliver Sacks, to speculate that he had Asperger syndrome, though he may merely have been anthropophobic.
    -https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Cavendish#Personality_and_legacy

    There exist several categories of tsams, each one being subdivided into a number of varieties. Proceeding from the less austere towards the most severe forms, we find the following ones: A lama or a lay devotee shuts himself in his room or private apartment. He does not go out or only does so at fixed time, to perform some devotional practices such as walking around religious edifices making repeated prostrations before sacred objects, or the like. According to the rule which he has adopted, the tsamspa either may be seen or must remain invisible. In the first case, he is generally permitted to talk briefly with the members of the household, his relatives or servants, and even to receive a few visitors. In the second case, he may only be seen by those who attend him. If a visitor is admitted, he must remain within hearing outside the tsamspa’s room. A curtain screens the entrance and the interlocutors remain invisible to each other as in some Roman Catholic contemplative orders of nuns. A number of Tibetans resort occasionally to one or another of these mild forms of seclusion for non-religious motives, seeking merely to avoid disturbance while engaged in the study of any branch of Tibetan learning: grammar, philosophy, astrology, medicine, etc. Next comes the recluse who sees but one attendant. He who renounces speaking and makes known his needs by writing. He who partly covers his window, so that he cannot see the surrounding landscape, nor any outside object except the sky. He who renounces the sight of the sky, covering his window entirely, or living in a windowless room which, nevertheless, admits the daylight indirectly. He who sees no one at all. In this case, if the tsamspa enjoys the use of a suite of rooms, his meals are brought into one of them, while he retires into another. When he lives in a single room, food is placed next the entrance. Someone knocks at the door to inform the recluse that what he needs is ready, and then the inmates of the house leave the adjacent room or corridors for a moment to allow the tsamspa to come out without being seen. Any object is returned in the same way, the tsamspa calling attention by knocking at the door or ringing a bell. Among those who practice this particular kind of tsams, some ask by writing for the things which they require, but others renounce this facility. Consequently, whatever may be their needs, they cannot make them known. Even if those who attend on them forgot to give them their meal, they ought to fast in silence. Generally tsams in one’s own house do not last long, especially of the strict kind. One year seems to be an exceptional period. One usually hears of people who live in seclusion for three months, one month and even a few days only. Laymen rarely shut themselves in their apartment for more than one month. It is easy to understand that prolonged and severe tsams cannot be practiced in an ordinary residence. There, whatever care is taken, the moving about of people busy with worldly affairs and the noise inevitably reach the tsamspa, through the thin barrier of his closed door.
    -http://www.hermitary.com/articles/david-neel.html

    And also some things are not only for special forces operators or Olympic Games athletes. I mean maybe there is some misunderstanding concerning “angry weekend warriors.”
    -http://forum.healingdao.com/practice/message/22389/

    Sorry for my broken English.

    For real Yoga and Kung Fu hobos 6 hours couldn’t be any limit.

    My impression is that body learns to adjust very quickly if one doesn’t have some special health condition.

    So one should simply need to get rid off all self-indulgent tendencies immediately.

    HOWDY

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JS_j07Emt9U

    December 8, 2015 at 10:59 am #45370
    rideforever
    Participant

    What is the goal of all this practice ?

    4-6 hours a day like a soldier in a hermit prison cell.

    What kind of image is this of life ?

    Self-torture ?

    Isn’t this just the lower mind of ordinary unconscious folks all fighting each other watching rambo movies trying to be tough … and applied to ‘spirituality’.

    Is there anything awake, loving or intelligent inside ?

    Highly questionable !!!

    December 8, 2015 at 1:05 pm #45372
    c_howdy
    Participant

    According to “The Teachings of Babaji,” Haidakhan Babaji “appeared” in June 1970 in a cave at the foot of the Kumaon Mount Kailash, across the river Gautama Ganga, near a remote village called Hairakhan, in the Nainital District of Uttrakhand, India. His followers maintain that Haidakhan Babaji is a Mahavatar – “a human manifestation of God, not born from woman.”
    -https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haidakhan_Babaji

    The Ninja god Fudo is effectively dead. Some mourned his passing, most did not. Ninjutsu has moved on. In a world where Industrial Light and Magic and Pixar can create more terrifying and effective deities than artists of the Shingon Buddhist sect, his days were numbered anyway.
    Unlike the serene visage of Babaji of Paramahansa Yogananda fame (Yogananda wrote Autobiography of a Yogi), Fudo looks an angry gang member on fire with vampire teeth and is sometimes shown with three eyes. Not an attractive deity to be sold to a Western ninjutsu audience. Take a look at the happy guy below- Babaji (credits to the Universal Fellowship of Life) – and take another look at the Fudo painting at the top of this post. Babaji may look like an overdosed medical marijuana patient, but as Yogananda and other yoga gurus found, happiness and enlightenment are easier to sell. Angry Yamabushi and adopted Ninja gods, not so much.
    -http://www.ninja2ninja.com/2014/07/03/fudos-autopsy-post-mortem-ninja-god/

    …however the overwhelming truth is that these exercises are quite limited because ‘you’ do not have the power to heal and fix everything nor of propelling yourself forward on your journey … and so evolving is more about channelling higher forces, like love, that do have that power…

    If one has this kind of situation one simply would need to accept one’s limitations.

    Anyway to speak about love in this sense is nothing else than hypocrisy.

    HOWDY

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQqi5oyQB4M

    December 8, 2015 at 3:24 pm #45374
    Steven
    Moderator

    Again all mental ideas from you.
    Are you doing more than 6 hours per day?
    Have you gotten rid of all self-indulgent tendencies?

    You speak about things that you have no actual experience with.

    There is also a balance point between worldly desire and spiritual desire. As I said before, each of us has only a limited amount of time on this planet. Spend all of your time practicing, and you give up your experiences of the world. These are valuable and provide growth in their own right.

    Balance.
    This is the key thing you often miss.

    S

    December 8, 2015 at 6:41 pm #45376
    c_howdy
    Participant

    You might find this site interesting.Taoism is about sphere-archy, vs. hierarchy, for all the reasons listed here.
    -http://forum.healingdao.com/philosophy/message/25651/

    Sorry, but I think that these two articles were quite interesting as well as that website.

    …the universe is trying to help us…

    Yes but that can be seemingly quite extreme and brutal.

    I suggest to read those two articles if there is sometimes enough time.

    Links are below.

    HOWDY

    http://www.ascensionhelp.com/blog/2013/08/23/why-i-am-no-longer-a-light-worker/

    http://www.ascensionhelp.com/blog/2013/11/21/tell-the-lords-of-karma-that-you-are-sovereign-no-longer-a-lightworker-part-2/

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27e4NQlriBE

    December 9, 2015 at 5:33 am #45378
    rideforever
    Participant

    It is by accepting one’s limitations that one enters reality, because that is your reality. And they are not limitations, that is the mind talking again. The mind with its big ridiculous ideas that have nothing to do with you.

    Accepting yourself is not like “tolerating” your problems. On the Inner Smile Meditation you really become one with yourself, all the parts, light and dark, joyful and painful, you fall in love with yourself. And then with all the wonderful things outside you, your home, your planet, the stars, the beyond. And then you are home, small or large, you are home in your real home.

    And it is in this way that you are in touch with the higher forces that are waiting for you.

    They cannot reach you if you live in pictures, dreams of escaping your “limitations” or being a dark ninja and so on.

    Only when you enter yourself can they enter you. Easily, like the joy of swimming in a great river.

    December 10, 2015 at 6:29 am #45380
    c_howdy
    Participant

    One can meditate without doing pranayama, but its regular practice is a great help in achieving success in meditation. For example, the stage before dhyana in raja yoga is dharana. Without being able to concentrate on one object for some time, dhyana is impossible. The usual method is to visualize an internal object with closed eyes. This in itself is not so simple, for any mental image is either blurred of fades away from view within a short time. Pranayama is extremely useful in encouraging the appearance of clear mental images which remain visible for longer periods of time. This is caused by redistribution of prana in the body, which renders the mind more able to perceive and control images.
    -SWAMI SATYANANDA SARASWATI, Meditations from the Tantras

    (pause as you think about this)
    -http://forum.healingdao.com/general/message/26106/

    This is easier to do if one is also holding one’s breath after inhalation (poorak=>antar kumbhaka).

    HOWDY

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