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December 30, 2015 at 8:03 pm #45382c_howdyParticipant
Similar accounts of alchemical aurification have continued to appear periodically in the Indian press. The 8 June 1968 issue of the Navabbarat Times ran a story, out of Ahmedabad, concerning an Ayurvedic pharmacist named A. C. Acharya, who had produced pure gold from mercury in four days, at Jamnagar (Gujarat). This story was corroborated by Siddhinandan Misra, who had added that the experiment was carried out under the eyes of ten goldsmiths, ten chemists, and six government ministers. Dharm Yug’s 7 September 1975 edition states that the “secret ingredient” used in these experiments was “perfected mercury” (siddhasuuta).
-DAVID GORDON WHITE, The Alchemical Body: Siddha Traditions in Medieval IndiaAre you spending your time practicing, or are you spending your time reading about the practices of others? The latter I don’t think accomplishes much. For the most part, it is just an excuse for avoidance. A combination of laziness and lack of courage. Doing *something* is far more important than spending years (or a lifetime) feeding the mind with all kinds of stories about what others have done.
-http://forum.healingdao.com/philosophy/message/24897/…this is where practice comes in…reading all the resources you do will never resolve the issue for you…
In the end it matters how one is studying and not only what one is studying.
And I still hold that the Indian tradition is more advanced than the Chinese, but it’s still useful to make comparative studies.
And also knowing about these and mastering them, in the first place, is much more important than modern science.
HOWDY
December 31, 2015 at 2:01 am #45384c_howdyParticipantNow you swear and kick and beg us
That you’re not a gamblin’ man
Then you find you’re back in Vegas
With a handle in your hand
Your black cards can make you money
So you hide them when you’re able
In the land of milk and honey
You must put them on the table
-STEELY DAN, Do It AgainTo me, as soon as there is an intermediary (i.e. someone other than oneself) who is relaying information, there is no way to know for sure. Consequently, to me, most spiritual texts–such as the ones you study and quote–are garbage. They are just a way to waste and lose the limited time we have on this planet. They provide no actual insight. No matter how good they look, they just taste like plastic.
-http://forum.healingdao.com/general/message/26106/Culture (/ˈkʌltʃər/) is, in the words of E.B. Tylor, “that complex whole which includes knowledge, belief, art, morals, law, custom and any other capabilities and habits acquired by man as a member of society.”
-https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CultureShrutis have been considered revealed knowledge, variously described as of divine origin, or nonhuman primordial origins. In Hindu tradition, they have been referred to as apauruṣeya (authorless). All six orthodox schools of Hinduism accept the authority of úruti,[note 1] but many scholars in these schools denied that the shrutis are divine. Nâstika (heterodox) philosophies such as the Cârvâkas did not accept the authority of the shrutis and considered them to be flawed human works.
-https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%9ArutiPâṇini’s work became known in 19th-century Europe, where it influenced modern linguistics initially through Franz Bopp, who mainly looked at Pâṇini. Subsequently, a wider body of work influenced Sanskrit scholars such as Ferdinand de Saussure, Leonard Bloomfield, and Roman Jakobson. Frits Staal (19302012) discussed the impact of Indian ideas on language in Europe. After outlining the various aspects of the contact, Staal notes that the idea of formal rules in language proposed by Ferdinand de Saussure in 1894 and developed by Noam Chomsky in 1957 has origins in the European exposure to the formal rules of Pâṇinian grammar. In particular, de Saussure, who lectured on Sanskrit for three decades, may have been influenced by Pâṇini and Bhartrihari; his idea of the unity of signifier-signified in the sign somewhat resembles the notion of Sphoṭa. More importantly, the very idea that formal rules can be applied to areas outside of logic or mathematics may itself have been catalysed by Europe’s contact with the work of Sanskrit grammarians.
-https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P%C4%81%E1%B9%87ini#Modern_linguisticsGreek mnçmonikos, from mnçmôn mindful, from mimnçskesthai to remember
-http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/mnemonicSorry for my broken English
I don’t review these two books at least this time.
One could easily find them from the local university library even when the South Asian Studies wouldn’t be available even as a minor.
These have very deep insights into Indian culture.
So if one knows enough about yoga’s primary practical aspects these are quite fascinating monographs.
My personal interest to study these kind of things, as a kind of extra, has to do with culture.
Especially interesting are ancient Vedic mnemonical techniques which are quite well known.
HOWDY
January 2, 2016 at 5:13 pm #45386c_howdyParticipantThe song was written by Donald Fagen and Walter Becker and features Fagen on vocals. The song was also a #11 hit on the Pop singles chart in 1973. In March 2005, Q magazine placed the song at number 95 in its list of the 100 Greatest Guitar Tracks. Led Zeppelin guitarist Jimmy Page has reportedly said that Elliott Randall’s guitar solo on “Reeling in the Years” is his favorite solo of all time. That solo was also ranked the 40th best guitar solo of all time by the readers of Guitar World magazine.
-https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reelin%27_In_the_YearsTo me, as soon as there is an intermediary (i.e. someone other than oneself) who is relaying information, there is no way to know for sure. Consequently, to me, most spiritual texts–such as the ones you study and quote–are garbage. They are just a way to waste and lose the limited time we have on this planet. They provide no actual insight. No matter how good they look, they just taste like plastic.
-http://forum.healingdao.com/general/message/26106/For certain things in the HT, it is perfectly fine to learn on one’s own, via a DVD, an audio set, even a book. Other things, it is not. Certain things you actually do need another person for. If a person really doesn’t want to ever connect with a live person, the choice is simple: either don’t choose to try to learn those topics OR accept that you will never get beyond a basic beginner level. It’s just the reality of the situation.
-http://forum.healingdao.com/practice/message/25292/Maybe one should admit that one shouldn’t accept authorities in the end in any form?
HOWDY
January 11, 2016 at 8:13 am #45388c_howdyParticipantA kōan (公案?)/ˈkoʊ.ɑːn/; Chinese: 公案; pinyin: gōng’àn; Korean: 공안 (kong’an); Vietnamese: công án) is a story, dialogue, question, or statement, which is used in Zen practice to provoke the “great doubt” and test a student’s progress in Zen practice.
-https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C5%8DanMichel de Nostredame (depending on the source, 14 or 21 December 1503 2 July 1566), usually Latinised as Nostradamus, was a French apothecary and reputed seer who published collections of prophecies that have since become widely famous. He is best known for his book Les Propheties, the first edition of which appeared in 1555. Since the publication of this book, which has rarely been out of print since his death, Nostradamus has attracted a following that, along with much of the popular press, credits him with predicting many major world events. Most academic sources maintain that the associations made between world events and Nostradamus’s quatrains are largely the result of misinterpretations or mistranslations (sometimes deliberate) or else are so tenuous as to render them useless as evidence of any genuine predictive power.
-https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NostradamusAldebaran /ælˈdɛbərən/ (α Tau, α Tauri, Alpha Tauri) is an orange giant star located about 65 light years away in the zodiac constellation of Taurus. With an average apparent magnitude of 0.87 it is the brightest star in the constellation and is one of the brightest stars in the nighttime sky. The name Aldebaran is Arabic (الدبران al-dabarān) and means “the Follower”, presumably because it rises near and soon after the Pleiades.
-https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AldebaranThe complicated worldview of this Tantric aspect of Shiva worship is almost entirely inaccessible to conventional verbal logical deconstruction, for it’s very basis lies in accessing and entering parallel realities and logical frameworks…the constellation Orion was viewed as the cosmic figure of the Prajapati, the antelope. The movement of the vernal equinox from Orion to Aldebaran (Rohini) was interpreted as Rudra, the wild hunter, aiming at Prajapati, who symbolized the annual cycle. This correspondence of mythic truth with the movement of the constellations is a constant feature in the deconstruction of ancient legends.
-NAMITA GOKHALE, The Book of ShivaThe inventor of structuralist method was probably the Philosopher in Moliere’s Le Bourgeois Gentilhomme (Act II, Scene 5). Monsieur Jourdain wishes to write a letter to the Countess, using the following words: Fair Countess, I’m dying for love of your beautiful eyes. He demands a lesson in rhetoric from the Philosopher and receives a lecture, well before the event, in semiology. ‘I tell you, I don’t want anything in the letter but those very words, but I want them to be stylish and properly arranged. Just tell me some of the different ways of putting them, so that I can see what I want.’
-VINCENT DESCOMBES, Modern French PhilosophyTo me, as soon as there is an intermediary (i.e. someone other than oneself) who is relaying information, there is no way to know for sure. Consequently, to me, most spiritual texts–such as the ones you study and quote–are garbage. They are just a way to waste and lose the limited time we have on this planet. They provide no actual insight. No matter how good they look, they just taste like plastic.
-http://forum.healingdao.com/general/message/26106/Sorry for my broken English.
Garbage?
It’s not only what one studies but how one is doing that.
So if for example studying James Joyce’s Finnegan’s Wake is almost total waste of time Nostradamus’ verses one could use as kind of Zen koans.
But with some of these Hindu materials you have both quite excellent mnemonic system for astronomical observations also system of describing yogic processes, both physiological and subtle.
But I would be worried immediately mostly what happens when one is spoiled by one’s parents, relatives and whatever teachers.
The horror is there what one experiences involuntarily with those idiots.
HOWDY
January 11, 2016 at 8:53 am #45390c_howdyParticipantMore than twenty years after its original appearance in Italian, The Open Work remains significant for its powerful concept of opennessthe artists decision to leave arrangements of some constituents of a work to the public or to chanceand for its striking anticipation of two major themes of contemporary literary theory: the element of multiplicity and plurality in art, and the insistence on literary response as an interactive process between reader and text. The questions Umberto Eco raises, and the answers he suggests, are intertwined in the continuing debate on literature, art, and culture in general.
-http://www.hup.harvard.edu/catalog.php?isbn=9780674639768Finnegans Wake is a novel by Irish writer James Joyce. It is significant for its experimental style and reputation as one of the most difficult works of fiction in the English language. Written in Paris over a period of seventeen years, and published in 1939, two years before the author’s death, Finnegans Wake was Joyce’s final work. The entire book is written in a largely idiosyncratic language, consisting of a mixture of standard English lexical items and neologistic multilingual puns and portmanteau words, which many critics believe were attempts to recreate the experience of sleep and dreams. Owing to the work’s expansive linguistic experiments, stream of consciousness writing style, literary allusions, free dream associations, and abandonment of narrative conventions, Finnegans Wake remains largely unread by the general public.
-https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnegans_Wakehttps://lereminhapraia.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/moholy_lg2.jpg
January 14, 2016 at 8:03 am #45392c_howdyParticipantJohn von Neumann (János Neumann; 28. joulukuuta 1903 Budapest, Itävalta-Unkari 8. helmikuuta 1957 Washington, Yhdysvallat) oli amerikanjuutalainen matemaatikko, joka työpanoksellaan kehitti kvanttimekaniikkaa, joukko-oppia, tietojenkäsittelytiedettä, taloustiedettä ja muita matematiikan osa-alueita eteenpäin.
-https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_von_NeumannVon Neumann was another innovator who stood at the intersection of the humanities and sciences. “Father was an amateur poet and he believed that poetry could convey not only emotions but also philosophical ideas,” John’s brother Nicholas recalled. “He regarded poetry as a language within language, an idea that might be traced to John’s future speculations on the languages of the computer and the brain.” Of his mother he wrote, “She believed that music, art, related aesthetic pleasures had an important place in our lives, that elegance was quality to be revered.”
There is wealth of stories about young von Neumann’s prodigal genius, some of them probably true. At age six, it was later said, he would joke with his father in classical Greek, and he could divide two 8-digit numbers in his head. As a party trick, he would memorize a page of the phone book and recite back names and number, and he could recall verbatim pages from novels or articles he had read, in any of five languages. “If mentally superhuman race ever develops,” the hydrogen bomb developer Edward Teller once said, “its members will resemble Johnny von Neumann.”
-WALTER ISAACSON, The Innovators…if mentally superhuman race ever develops…
With von Neumann’s case it’s clear that he was not superhuman bodily.
Very difficult to imagine him jogging or doing sweaty gymnastics.
…he would memorize a page of the phone book…
Is this the someway reasonable compared to studying spiritual texts?
It would seem that studying phone books didn’t dull von Neumann’s mind, but had sharpened it.
It’s how one is doing such things.
HOWDY
Ps. Sorry for my broken English.
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