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Human Addiction to Seeking & Danger of the Internet (VERY PROFOUND article)

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  • August 14, 2009 at 5:23 am #32046
    Michael Winn
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    Note: a piece with very profound implications for spiritual seekers as well as for our “outer habits of seeking” in the world via internet. The inner seeking (brain’s opiod release or satiety feeling that leads to stillness or pause) may be designed to balance out the outer seeking (dopamine release that excites). Spiritual seeking plays this out multi-dimensionally, alchemy may just be a way to balance it all out, i.e. have your cake (stillness) and eat it too (excitement). Love to hear comments on this. -Michael

    HOW THE BRAIN HARD-WIRES US TO LOVE GOOGLE, TWITTER, AND TEXTING
    AND WHY THAT’S DANGEROUS
    By Emily Yoffe
    Slate Magazine
    August 12, 2009

    http://www.slate.com/id/2224932/pagenum/all/#p2

    Seeking. You can’t stop doing it. Sometimes it feels as if the basic drives
    for food, sex, and sleep have been overridden by a new need for endless
    nuggets of electronic information. We are so insatiably curious that we
    gather data even if it gets us in trouble. Google searches are becoming a
    cause of mistrials as jurors, after hearing testimony, ignore judges’
    instructions and go look up facts for themselves. We search for information
    we don’t even care about. Nina Shen Rastogi confessed in Double X, “My
    boyfriend has threatened to break up with me if I keep whipping out my
    iPhone to look up random facts about celebrities when we’re out to dinner.”
    We reach the point that we wonder about our sanity. Virginia Heffernan in
    the New York Times said she became so obsessed with Twitter posts about the
    Henry Louis Gates Jr. arrest that she spent days “refreshing my search like
    a drugged monkey.”

    We actually resemble nothing so much as those legendary lab rats that
    endlessly pressed a lever to give themselves a little electrical jolt to the
    brain. While we tap, tap away at our search engines, it appears we are
    stimulating the same system in our brains that scientists accidentally
    discovered more than 50 years ago when probing rat skulls.

    In 1954, psychologist James Olds and his team were working in a laboratory
    at McGill University, studying how rats learned. They would stick an
    electrode in a rat’s brain and, whenever the rat went to a particular corner
    of its cage, would give it a small shock and note the reaction. One day they
    unknowingly inserted the probe in the wrong place, and when Olds tested the
    rat, it kept returning over and over to the corner where it received the
    shock. He eventually discovered that if the probe was put in the brain’s
    lateral hypothalamus and the rats were allowed to press a lever and
    stimulate their own electrodes, they would press until they collapsed.

    Olds, and everyone else, assumed he’d found the brain’s pleasure center
    (some scientists still think so). Later experiments done on humans confirmed
    that people will neglect almost everything — their personal hygiene, their
    family commitments — in order to keep getting that buzz.

    But to Washington State University neuroscientist Jaak Panksepp, this
    supposed pleasure center didn’t look very much like it was producing
    pleasure. Those self-stimulating rats, and later those humans, did not
    exhibit the euphoric satisfaction of creatures eating Double Stuf Oreos or
    repeatedly having orgasms. The animals, he writes in Affective Neuroscience:
    The Foundations of Human and Animal Emotions, were “excessively excited,
    even crazed.” The rats were in a constant state of sniffing and foraging.
    Some of the human subjects described feeling sexually aroused but didn’t
    experience climax. Mammals stimulating the lateral hypothalamus seem to be
    caught in a loop, Panksepp writes, “where each stimulation evoked a
    reinvigorated search strategy” (and Panksepp wasn’t referring to Bing).

    It is an emotional state Panksepp tried many names for: curiosity, interest,
    foraging, anticipation, craving, expectancy. He finally settled on seeking.
    Panksepp has spent decades mapping the emotional systems of the brain he
    believes are shared by all mammals, and he says, “Seeking is the granddaddy
    of the systems.” It is the mammalian motivational engine that each day gets
    us out of the bed, or den, or hole to venture forth into the world. It’s
    why, as animal scientist Temple Grandin writes in Animals Make Us Human,
    experiments show that animals in captivity would prefer to have to search
    for their food than to have it delivered to them.

    For humans, this desire to search is not just about fulfilling our physical
    needs. Panksepp says that humans can get just as excited about abstract
    rewards as tangible ones. He says that when we get thrilled about the world
    of ideas, about making intellectual connections, about divining meaning, it
    is the seeking circuits that are firing.

    The juice that fuels the seeking system is the neurotransmitter dopamine.
    The dopamine circuits “promote states of eagerness and directed purpose,”
    Panksepp writes. It’s a state humans love to be in. So good does it feel
    that we seek out activities, or substances, that keep this system aroused —
    cocaine and amphetamines, drugs of stimulation, are particularly effective
    at stirring it.

    Ever find yourself sitting down at the computer just for a second to find
    out what other movie you saw that actress in, only to look up and realize
    the search has led to an hour of Googling? Thank dopamine. Our internal
    sense of time is believed to be controlled by the dopamine system. People
    with hyperactivity disorder have a shortage of dopamine in their brains,
    which a recent study suggests may be at the root of the problem. For them
    even small stretches of time seem to drag. An article by Nicholas Carr in
    the Atlantic last year, “Is Google Making Us Stupid?” speculates that our
    constant Internet scrolling is remodeling our brains to make it nearly
    impossible for us to give sustained attention to a long piece of writing.
    Like the lab rats, we keep hitting “enter” to get our next fix.

    University of Michigan professor of psychology Kent Berridge has spent more
    than two decades figuring out how the brain experiences pleasure. Like
    Panksepp, he, too, has come to the conclusion that what James Olds’ rats
    were stimulating was not their reward center. In a series of experiments, he
    and other researchers have been able to tease apart that the mammalian brain
    has separate systems for what Berridge calls wanting and liking.

    Wanting is Berridge’s equivalent for Panksepp’s seeking system. It is the
    liking system that Berridge believes is the brain’s reward center. When we
    experience pleasure, it is our own opioid system, rather than our dopamine
    system, that is being stimulated. This is why the opiate drugs induce a kind
    of blissful stupor so different from the animating effect of cocaine and
    amphetamines. Wanting and liking are complementary. The former catalyzes us
    to action; the latter brings us to a satisfied pause. Seeking needs to be
    turned off, if even for a little while, so that the system does not run in
    an endless loop. When we get the object of our desire (be it a Twinkie or a
    sexual partner), we engage in consummatory acts that Panksepp says reduce
    arousal in the brain and temporarily, at least, inhibit our urge to seek.

    But our brains are designed to more easily be stimulated than satisfied.
    “The brain seems to be more stingy with mechanisms for pleasure than for
    desire,” Berridge has said. This makes evolutionary sense. Creatures that
    lack motivation, that find it easy to slip into oblivious rapture, are
    likely to lead short (if happy) lives. So nature imbued us with an
    unquenchable drive to discover, to explore. Stanford University
    neuroscientist Brian Knutson has been putting people in MRI scanners and
    looking inside their brains as they play an investing game. He has
    consistently found that the pictures inside our skulls show that the
    possibility of a payoff is much more stimulating than actually getting one.

    Just how powerful (and separate) wanting is from liking is illustrated in
    animal experiments. Berridge writes that studies have shown that rats whose
    dopamine neurons have been destroyed retain the ability to walk, chew, and
    swallow but will starve to death even if food is right under their noses
    because they have lost the will to go get it. Conversely, Berridge
    discovered that rats with a mutation that floods their brains with dopamine
    learned more quickly than normal rats how to negotiate a runway to reach the
    food. But once they got it, they didn’t find the food more pleasurable than
    the nonenhanced rats. (No, the rats didn’t provide a Zagat rating;
    scientists measure rats’ facial reactions to food.)

    That study has implications for drug addiction and other compulsive
    behaviors. Berridge has proposed that in some addictions the brain becomes
    sensitized to the wanting cycle of a particular reward. So addicts become
    obsessively driven to seek the reward, even as the reward itself becomes
    progressively less rewarding once obtained. “The dopamine system does not
    have satiety built into it,” Berridge explains. “And under certain
    conditions it can lead us to irrational wants, excessive wants we’d be
    better off without.” So we find ourselves letting one Google search lead to
    another, while often feeling the information is not vital and knowing we
    should stop. “As long as you sit there, the consumption renews the
    appetite,” he explains.

    Actually all our electronic communication devices — e-mail, Facebook feeds,
    texts, Twitter — are feeding the same drive as our searches. Since we’re
    restless, easily bored creatures, our gadgets give us in abundance qualities
    the seeking/wanting system finds particularly exciting. Novelty is one.
    Panksepp says the dopamine system is activated by finding something
    unexpected or by the anticipation of something new. If the rewards come
    unpredictably — as e-mail, texts, updates do — we get even more carried
    away. No wonder we call it a “CrackBerry.”

    The system is also activated by particular types of cues that a reward is
    coming. In order to have the maximum effect, the cues should be small,
    discrete, specific — like the bell Pavlov rang for his dogs. Panksepp says
    a way to drive animals into a frenzy is to give them only tiny bits of food:
    This simultaneously stimulating and unsatisfying tease sends the seeking
    system into hyperactivity. Berridge says the “ding” announcing a new e-mail
    or the vibration that signals the arrival of a text message serves as a
    reward cue for us. And when we respond, we get a little piece of news
    (Twitter, anyone?), making us want more. These information nuggets may be as
    uniquely potent for humans as a Froot Loop to a rat. When you give a rat a
    minuscule dose of sugar, it engenders “a panting appetite,” Berridge says —
    a powerful and not necessarily pleasant state.

    If humans are seeking machines, we’ve now created the perfect machines to
    allow us to seek endlessly. This perhaps should make us cautious. In Animals
    in Translation, Temple Grandin writes of driving two indoor cats crazy by
    flicking a laser pointer around the room. They wouldn’t stop stalking and
    pouncing on this ungraspable dot of light — their dopamine system pumping.
    She writes that no wild cat would indulge in such useless behavior: “A cat
    wants to catch the mouse, not chase it in circles forever.” She says
    “mindless chasing” makes an animal less likely to meet its real needs
    “because it short-circuits intelligent stalking behavior.” As we chase after
    flickering bits of information, it’s a salutary warning.

    …………..

    Emily Yoffe is the author of What the Dog Did: Tales From a Formerly
    Reluctant Dog Owner. You can send your Human Guinea Pig suggestions or
    comments to emilyyoffe@hotmail.com.

    August 16, 2009 at 1:24 am #32047
    Michael Winn
    Keymaster

    Keep it up dude. It only gets more interesting at the kan li level….
    chi
    m

    August 16, 2009 at 3:30 am #32049
    Steven
    Moderator

    I can speak a little about texting addiction.
    I see this kind of behavior first-hand.

    Starting about two years ago, undergraduate classrooms
    at MSU have been infected with addicted students who
    literally can not go 50 minutes without texting.
    Moreover, some of them get quite uncomfortable
    with the idea of not being able to maintain their
    texting on a CONTINUOUS basis. It’s not simply
    a matter of having a diversion from a boring class
    (although there are some of those people); but for
    a good number of students, texting is so hardwired
    into their brains that the idea of not spending
    waking minutes strapped to their texting device is
    inconceivable. I’ve seen symptoms akin to heroin
    withdrawal when someone is “forced” to turn off
    their texting device. Then the student will
    relieve their withdrawal symptoms by getting up
    periodically to take “bathroom breaks”. It’s quite
    sad actually.

    Steven

    December 9, 2009 at 11:33 am #32051
    wolfgang
    Participant

    right on!

    I am tempted to view this article in such a way to apply it to “seeking enlightenment”. That kind of seeking of the self is an addiction to wanting something else other than what is right now (resistance) and must have similar elements that are pointed out in the article. We seek and do some practice and get an experience (high) and then come down and seek some more because of the mechanisms of seeking. When experiences are states that come and go and are not directly being whole – which is what is being seeked – being whole. But one can never be whole while looking for wholeness.

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