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June 23, 2005 at 5:51 pm #6117cloudhandsParticipant
I have been practicing the Tao for about 11 years now. I am 29 and have learnt up to the Intermediate stages in the Healing Tao and also studied under another Taoist for quite a while. I also practice martial arts and have been living in Japan for the past six years. Over time using the orbit and seminal retention has just become a normal part my life, I have not learnt Kan and Li but practice what I know fairly diligently.
I have also developed strength so I can last for quite a long time during lovemaking. I have had some amazing experiences.I have a problem though. When I first developed the ability to hold my seed I felt invincible, I thought I wanted to be with every woman. Then I started to find about STD’s and became very scared. I had a dream that things like herpes can move up the orbit into higher and stay there into future incarnations or beyond this life as such. I don’t know if the dream, (it was more of a vision) was built on my fears of was a channel of truth. I know Master Chia talked about this a little in “Cultivating Male Sexual Energy.”
I meet many girls and a lot of them like me, but for two years I have been scared to have intercourse for fear of what might happen. I am young and don’t want opportunities to slip away. I have been in one serious relationship, in those two years. Once in a seriously involved I am fine in the bedroom I s can please my lover.., but I seem to be scared of one night stands and girls who show interest in me, like dates etc.. You are the only people I can speak to about this at the moment. I think I might need counselling, but a lot counsellors just don’t understand things that relate to the Tao. I really hope someone with insight can offer some honest advice. I mean crazy advice is better than nothing but I am pretty confused and shook up, so I hope you can help.
June 24, 2005 at 11:01 am #6118TrunkParticipantSeems to me that some conventional knowledge of std’s, and a personal strategy of safe sex, could help considerably. Read about the different std’s; know what you’re dealing with. Read about safe sex and take a sensible approach.
c> I had a dream that things like herpes can move up the orbit into higher and stay there into future incarnations or beyond this life as such. >
That sounds rather far-fetched, to me. But I honestly don’t know how it all works out; maybe Michael will respond in a more informed manner.
June 24, 2005 at 12:43 pm #6120Golden SunParticipantWear a condom always? Even then there are no guarantees. Try to find a nice girl that hasent been with 100 guys and have her do a blood test. Tell her your situation and say you will get the test together.
June 26, 2005 at 10:14 am #6122Michael WinnKeymasterI don’t think this is a medical issue, as condoms generally provide a sufficient level of protection if you are careful to keep your hands from spreading the virus.
its primarily a psychic issue, a contraction of the kidney spirit that is frozen in a past dream, so you cannot stay neutral in the present moment. STDs do not travel in the spinal fluid, which transmits the jing chi of sexual practice.
The deeper question is whether your Tao practice has made you more sensitive to the psychic garbage that gets absorbed from new lovers who haven’t refined themselves. it is possible you created this STD issue in a dream as a smokescreen, a way to keep yourself from abusing your sexual attractiveness and dispersing your chi with a lot of affairs with unrefined women.
Committed relationships and cultivating to a high level with a single partner are the best protection against having to start over again and again with lovers who invariably have deep issues waiting to be resolved underneath the veneer of physical attraction. This may also be a mirror for your own issues; you may be afraid of getting really intimate, ask yourself why past relationships have not gone deeper? That’s the block to release, not the dream of medical disease.
Hard to guess at a distance, just offering food for thought.
michaelJune 26, 2005 at 1:04 pm #6124cloudhandsParticipantThanks everyone, I really appreciate your time and thought.
Michael your advice has been so helpful. Your perception is deep. I think your right the issue may be a psychic one. Coming to terms with these influences is a challenge for me.
“a contraction of the kidney spirit that is frozen in a past dream, so you cannot stay neutral in the present”
This is difficult for me to understand, could you please explain it more simply for me.
Part of my issue is that, all my friends who are in their 20’s are quite promiscuous. I have been living in Japan which is quite a promiscuous society.It is very stimulating here and there are many beautiful girls. There is a pressure from friends to have been with many women. I often think, but never say “but can you please one lover well”. I don’t think my friends care about that. I have a one teacher who is old (84) who practices the Tao he recommended that I don’t be too committed as in marriage yet. His telepathy is quite strong. He can read a lot of signs.
I am quite sensitive and shy inside. When I first learnt to hold and reverse, I felt tremendous energy and sexual confidence, almost wild and uncontrollable. Now I am very careful but feel that I may not have been with many partners before marriage. This may be my ego striving though. I have always been honest with my girlfriends and explain what I practice. It has taken them a little time to get used it. My friend said to me today that knowing something requires responibilty. Not that I know, I still have so much more to learn. Maybe responsibilty is an issue for me.
In a one night stand (which most of the people around me do) I cannot explain things carefully, about energy.June 27, 2005 at 1:59 pm #6126BeginnerParticipantI am older than you and have been with the same woman for 27 years so use or lose what I have to offer. When I read your plea for discussion I felt your sensitivity and struggle with those your age and your own inner promptings.
There is a lot to be said for desire. It is the spark that makes life worth living. It makes things move, including our insides, blood and love. I was with two women before my wife and over the years wondered if I missed out on exploration but have reached the conclusion that it was in keeping with my nature to be discrete.
The pressure for sexual coupling is so strong. Even in Japan it sounds like the sexual revolution is being reflected back into a very conservative cultural tradition.
I am just wondering about the middle ground between isolation and licentiousness without moving into the commitment of marriage. Is it possible? What of the sensuality of hands twining together or slow dancing– a good meal made together. If you are aware of the energetics of polarity in your spiritual practice than why not cultivate the gifts desire brings, digest that without the “problems” of another, and without the worry of STD’s?
It will whittle down your potential partners to those interested in relationship…not marriage…but the merging of genitals and heart.
I feel that with more clarity and less fear you will attract the best partner for you and your nature. Trust yourself, baba -
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