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February 27, 2005 at 2:34 pm #2961MaximVParticipant
Michael to Plato:
< if you are going to make public pronouncements about your study of "winn < alchemy" I guess its my job to keep your honest. You took only one course < with me, and were obviously ill-prepared to take it - you had a very weak < foundation coming into the Lesser Kan & Li and had deep issues that you < admitted at the tiime prevented you from doing the practice. You were so < distracted, you felt like a total misfit in the class and you wanted to < leave the course halfway through it. No need to turn a discussion into personal attacks, Michael. If you were "keeping it honest", you would have also said Plato also bought all your Kan & Li tapes, and that the event you are talking about took place 5 years ago. If you were completely honest Michael, you would have noted that almost all of the participants of the course, with the exceptions of the few, were "ill-prepared". In fact, half of the class, if they weren't asleep, were ready to go to sleep, and the rest had severe emotional problems that were revealed during Q&A part. It made me laugh when a teacher at Dao Mountain staying across the wall from us, had sex in the middle of the night, and lasted only 2 minutes. It makes me laugh when I see your higher Alchemy students thinking of doing vasectomy so they can cum without repercussions. It makes me also laugh when students taking "Sealing Senses" class are so proud of their spiritual accomplishements but have strong unresolved sexual urges that turn The Dao Mountain into a fuck-fest. The fact is, Michael, very few of your students are ready to take your class.March 1, 2005 at 9:19 am #2962Michael WinnKeymasterMac,
I appreicate your urge to defend your buddy Plato, but I was not attacking his person. I have the greatest respect for Plato as a serious seeker who is willing to probe far beyond where most fear to roam. I was criticizing his generalization – his judgement – that alchemy doesn’t work. The point was, it didn’t work for him. That brings no judgement on Plato. I don’t know who buys my tape courses, it goes thru my New Jersey fulfillment office. If Plato had asked me for assistance in getting the process to work better for him I would have gladly offered it.I have no judgement about other’s sexual habits at Dao Mtn..or anywhere else. That is their job to transform that deep soul impulse and biological need into the highest level they are able – not mine. But better to have it without guilt, at any level.
And I agree that many studetns are not ready for the course they take. That is inherent in taking what was once a one – on – one teaching into a group situation. The serious ones will realitze it and use the perspective gained to go back to previous levels and strengthen their root.
And as more westerners are learning the alchemical process, I have noticed more are able to get it easily. The portal seems to be opening, perhaps matching the larger vibratory field shift.
Wishing you an Enlgihtened Journey,
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