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February 12, 2007 at 4:29 am #21037russellnParticipant
Someone recently posted an item on Tesla with a link to a video, which was very good, I thought. The link below is to some information about implosion energy principles which seem very aligned with core Taoist ideas. For those interested.
http://peswiki.com/index.php/PowerPedia:Viktor_Schauberger#Books
February 13, 2007 at 10:08 pm #21038Michael WinnKeymasterI’ve been into Schauberger ever since I read the book by Olof Alexandersson: Living Water (1990).
He didn’t really identify the force as chi, but he was working with the yin power of water.
I’ve been tempted to buy some of the devices supposedly designed by him….
February 14, 2007 at 8:15 am #21040DylanParticipantI’m a big fan of Schauberger too as well as Tesla of course.
But I think some amazing parallels with Taoism come from the work of Jonathan Keely who predated them both. His theories on the three fundamental forces – Simplified as Push, Pull and the Neutral centre are the closest I’ve seen to Michael’s ideas.
Apparently he developed through the technology of sound(resonance) amazing inventions and discoveries. He could look into atoms before quantum physicists and developed levitation. He made use of Silver, Gold, and Platinum.
His theories on the neutral centre bring together atoms and the universe into one holistic entity.February 15, 2007 at 1:03 am #21042russellnParticipantThanks. I’ll have a look at his bio at link below.
Mercury has just done an apparent retrograde stationary in Pisces and I’m feeling the need to review a lot of natural law stuff passed over before.
February 15, 2007 at 3:47 am #21044Michael WinnKeymasterDylan, Thanks for clueing me into Keely.
Like Tesla, I’m guessing he was an atlantean soul reincarnating before folks were quite ready for him. I’m positng some of the wiki stuff on him for those too lazy to hunt. (see below).
His point about neutral force establishing the definition of a living being is key. That is the future of technology – recognizing that matter is conscious, and that technological processes must therefore become conscious and not “mechanical”. That’s why he could not commercialize his discoveries – we still had to go through a century of mass production and other discoveries before vindicating him.
The water exploding experiments relate to my Atlantean scientist teacher’s claim that hydrogen – the main component in water – could be vibrated at 10 to the 15th Mhz and produce infinite and clean amounts of energy. Real life physical scientists were hired to test the idea – and found that it was plausible IF the proper transducer could be found……
of course all this has already been invented in the future and the past, and will be arriving in this time zone shortly……
already there is a frenchman who has invented a sound engine…..
3,6,9 progressions relate to trigrams, hexagrams, and octagram + center of I Ching……we’ve come ful circle to the secret of shape-shifting.
michael
from wikipedia:
Exploding water with 42712.2Hz
From JoesCell2:Proffessor Keely found that water will explode at a frequency of 42,712.2 Hz. … did it with a Quartz Bowl….Think Quartz and how symmetry applies to magnets because that is how quartz crystals are formed, via symmetry. The 42,712.2Hz was applied to a quartz bowl with distilled water at which time it EXPLODED and disappeared. After this experiment Keely began studing geometric shapes that hold these specialized frequencies which can manipulate matter and the mind. So the power of the mind possibly can be realized by the special shapes that Keely discovered from special frequencies. if you know how this works you wouldnt even need a OS:Joe_Cell Joe Cell to make power and after a while not even the special shapes because you could use your voice. i will add that if you want
your joe cells to work better place it on a 10 or 12 point tesseract made on copper foil. You can get it at lowes home improvement in their building materials section.
[edit]Verification of frequency to produce etheric force from water?
A recent (1965) possible verification of the frequency Keely used to dissociate water into etheric force was related to me by a scientist when we were discussing certain aspects of free energy. He wishes to remain anonymous for obvious reasons, but his name is on file. I have no other verification of this experiment, however I believe it merits telling. The scientist, I shall call him Dr. X, was doing experiments with ultrasonic sound in a column of water. The object of the experiments was to devise a means of separating various densities of materials by injecting them into a column of water which was subjected to an ultrasonic standing wave vibration.The experimental setup is sketched in Figure 3-3 (for BBS considerations a description follows). A Barium Titanate ultrasonic transducer was fixed to the bottom of a [quartz tube] which was closed at the bottom and open at the top. Pure water was poured into the tube and the water column was “tuned” so that a standing wave was produced at 40,000 CPS (cycles per second). The transducer was powered by a 700 Watt power amplifier which was driven by an ultrasonic frequency generator. Because of the large amount of power put into the column of water a certain amount of evaporation took place at a constant rate when the transducer was energized. Therefore, to maintain a standing wave in the water column a feedback device caused the frequency to be raised as the water evaporated and the temperature changed.
As a test, Dr. X decided to run through the experiment with only water in the tube to ensure that a standing wave was maintained as the water evaporated and the frequency rose higher and higher. When the experiment was started everything worked beautifully. Dr. X took periodic readings of his instrumentation and was assured that the standing wave was being maintained. Suddenly, with no warning whatever the water disappeared from the open quartz tube. He looked up thinking to see the water splashed on the ceiling when to his amazement a clean hole went right through the ceiling.
The hole was the same size as the inside of the quartz tube. Further investigation showed the hole continued on through the roof also! Dr. X checked his notebook and found the last frequency entry to be 41,300 CPS. It was shortly after this that the water disappeared. Because of the time interval between the last reading and the disappearing water, the frequency sent to the transducer was higher than the last reading and Dr. X said it could well have been very close to 42,800 CPS, the Keely dissociation frequency. This obviously dangerous event caused Dr. X to dismantle the equipment and try some other approach to his problem. This experiment points the way to the use of our modern technology in conjunction with Keely’s laws of dissociation to change matter into energy without the use of radioactive materials or extremely expensive atomic accelerators.”
[edit]Keely connections
[edit]Modern science and Keely
Keely reported disintegration of mass with standing waves (which is now a commercial process),
Keely reported producing light in water (what is now termed sonoluminescence/triboluminescence),
Keely reported acoustic levitation (verified by NASA and others) though Keely went FAR BEYOND this brute force technique,
Keely reported geometries that could intensify sound pressures without adding additional energy (recently patented and in use by MacroSonics),
Keely reported cold in the presence of certain ‘orders of vibration’ (now patented as an acoustic refrigration and cooling system),
Keely reported that sound could be used to heal the body but went further saying the ‘convolutions of the brain’ were knotted or restricted, resulting in all manner of physical problems when the nerve energy was restricted, this is still unproven as modern medical researchers work on the EFFECT rather than the controller (CAUSE) of the brain, that will change as more people begin to experiment in this area.
[edit]Magnetic Resonance Amplifier
With low-level ultrasonic input signals, the Magnetic Resonance Amplifier (MRA) produces usable direct current power at levels above unity. This circuit is based upon the work and theories of John Ernst Worrell Keely, and is offered into the public domain in his memory.
(from [rexresearch mra article]
[edit]Joe Cell
from JoesCell2: Keely’s dynasphere, principles, the same.
“Tenuous matter and energy are both attracted to the sphere just as other subatomic matter and energy are radiating from it.” The
radiating electrical field of the Joe cell becomes coherent with the rings as the sound in the dynasphere.-Second step.?? This device has been referred to as a “living entity” by Keely a number of times. It becomes a living, breathing entity when it:
establishes a neutral center;
establishes a coincident or sympathetic field about itself;
the device begins to act and react (breathe) to its neutral selfNOTICE
These three things are the three stages of the Joe cell.
As the amplification takes place the space/time begins to take on a stressed condition (pumping a scalar or phase conjugate wave as Bearden would say).
dynasphere, and-“Scalar current arises by abruptly bucking magnetic fields onto a caduceus wound or a bifilar wound coil”. It is as if the abruptly bucking magnetic field manifested a pair production of two macroscopic, oppositely rotating, displacement virtual current vortices in the zero point energy.’ These vacuum energy vortices are stabilized and supported by the two symmetric windings. Bedini described using this method in his “gravity field generator” where he not only reported “cold conduction” but also a weight change in the apparatus as well. Roz.
[edit]3 6 9
John Keely, wrote that the vibrations of “thirds, sixths, and ninths, were extraordinarily powerful.” In fact, he proved the “vibratory antagonistic thirds was thousands of times more forceful in separating hydrogen from oxygen in water than heat.” In his “Formula of Aqueous Disintegration” he wrote that, “molecular dissociation or disintegration of both simple and compound elements, whether gaseous or solid, a stream of vibratory antagonistic thirds, sixths, or ninths, on their chord mass will compel progressive subdivisions. In the disintegration of water the instrument is set on thirds, sixths, and ninths, to get the best effects.” aqua1.txt from keelynet.comNote well the Tesla quote about 3-6-9
If you only knew the magnificence of the 3, 6 and 9, then you would have a key to the universe. -Nikola TeslaFebruary 15, 2007 at 11:49 am #21046DogParticipantI have noticed the word key in reguards to sound before. Even in Egyotian Mythology. Just noticing a pattern. I know you go into sound in your advanced KAN & Li class and I am looking foward to taking them.
February 27, 2007 at 11:51 am #21048IntelligenceParticipant“3,6,9 progressions relate to trigrams, hexagrams, and octagram + center of I Ching……we’ve come full circle to the secret of shape-shifting. ”
the 3 6 9 part makes sense, but what about the shapeshifting.. don’t really understand what you mean by it..
the connection between shape spin and harmonics, a sort of synergetics/geometric physics seems like it would be integral to at least the shapeshifting part..
if hurtak/arguelles material is correct as well as older i ching then it looks like an issue of octahedrons.. and it looks like it has to do spin wise and geometrically with axiatonal spin points
what do you mean?
February 28, 2007 at 2:24 pm #21050Michael WinnKeymasterTonal chords are played in triads, 3 notes to a chord. These are the primary structures of creation, two poles and mid-point, wherther expressed symbolically as a triangle or trigram. When the soul can “play” these chords, its shapeshifts one’s vibration at a core level, i.e. the structural level. There are many ways to shapeshift consciousness, but not all vibrate at the core.When three sets of three vibrate simultaneously, you’ve covered the complete gamut of creation’s prime qualities…..and the change is thus more total. These tones can be said to be “spinning” as they move through space, interacting with other elements and dimensions….
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