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The method followed by the Mo-Pai is millenia-old and very effective. You begin by filling up the body’s “energy warehouse” with solar energy, in Chinese, yang ch’i. This warehouse, the dantien (elixir field), is located four fingers below the navel. If you imagine this energy centre as a sphere, you could assume that it would be empty at Level Zero, and full of yang energy at the end of Level One. Accomlishing this is not easy task, because the only way to do so is exclusively through meditation. You must be in actual meditation, a condition similar to the borderline between sleep and waking, for eighty-one hours in order to fill the dantien. When the typical practioner attempts meditation, he actually achieves it for only three minutes during every hour of sitting. Therefore, completing Level One can require 1,620 hours of sitting in the meditative posture: At an hour a day, it would take the average man four-and-a-half years to conclude this stage of the training.
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-KOSTA DANAOS, The Magus of Java>>>Master Chia is about the only one who can get away with practicing
>>>things to extreme levels, because he is doing practices
>>>consistently several hours a day via all his workshops.
>>>Very few other people do this. Doing it for short-term,
>>>provided the person’s channels are open, there is very
>>>little problem.Sorry, but I don’t want to be any kind of disturbance or interfere (to be a troll!?), but this is probably not true.
I don’t know if for example NEIDAN should be regarded a spiritual science as Michael Winn says, but somehow individually there seem to be need to quantify how much time one has for various practices and how much one can master, and also maybe take into account that one cannot follow some particular set of formulas, for example because of unexpected “dragon infestation.”
Best way to advance for immediate purposes is to become hermit as far as possible, and have all skills and resources for that. And secondly develope what I would call ninja like “anything goes” attitude for further advancement. Compassion in this kind of conditions and with this kind of people, could turn somebody into real fool.
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My thought is that it is kind of like conditioning. If you always see scarey movies they don’t scare you as much any more. If you always watch porn you don’t get as excited any more, and if you always see strong violence you aren’t affected as much any more.
So… If you experience extreeme sexual episodes then lesser ones don’t excite you as much. So finally if you lose your touch with the taoist practices and reduce your chi then it’s harder to get an errection. It’s harder to be happy without doing the inner smile and it’s harder to feel alive without strong chi running through your meridians. Thats if you go overboard. If you just practice mediocore then some times will be better than other times. If you keep increasing your chi then your experience can always get better and better, but in real life who does this?
You gotta be careful how good things become because unless you have hours each day to keep increasing the sensation through meditation when you don’t meditate as much everything will become second rate.
Others thoughts?
My thought is that it is kind of like conditioning. If you always see scarey movies they don’t scare you as much any more. If you always watch porn you don’t get as excited any more, and if you always see strong violence you aren’t affected as much any more.
So… If you experience extreeme sexual episodes then lesser ones don’t excite you as much. So finally if you lose your touch with the taoist practices and reduce your chi then it’s harder to get an errection. It’s harder to be happy without doing the inner smile and it’s harder to feel alive without strong chi running through your meridians. Thats if you go overboard. If you just practice mediocore then some times will be better than other times. If you keep increasing your chi then your experience can always get better and better, but in real life who does this?
You gotta be careful how good things become because unless you have hours each day to keep increasing the sensation through meditation when you don’t meditate as much everything will become second rate.
Others thoughts?
Sounds reasonable . . .
But at the same time, I don’t know that it is the full story.
At least one of these long-time practitioners was still
very much active practicing and teaching . . .Medical science would argue that it is because the
prostate is constantly producing fluid, and after awhile
the prostate fluid that is there starts to become not so
fresh, and the body wants to flush it out so that it
can produce new fresh fluid. If you don’t flush it out,
the stagnant fluid creates irritation to the prostate,
and leads to prostate problems. Older people who naturally
don’t ejaculate as much consequently have more stagnation
in their prostate, typically why older people often have
more prostate problems. Toxins can accumulate in the area by
gravity also, and a flush can be detoxifying.At the same time, I think medical science is a little
too simplistic and doesn’t look at the whole energetic
picture of the body.My *personal* feeling is that the penis is the most
yang manifestation of the male body. Yang represents
up and out. The body, embodying that principle, the
penis grows up (becomes erect) and projects out (erect
penis and then through ejaculation). If someone decides
that they want to try to do long-term retention or
even try to permanently stop ejaculation, it is like sending
a message to your body that “penis growing up and projecting out”
is not what you want. If you send enough messages to your body,
it eventually listens to you. Should a person really
be surprised that their penis has now stopped growing
up and out?M. Chia has a lot of yang energy. He is a very unique
and special individual, not many are like him. The best
analogy I can think of . . . is that everyone can learn to build
muscle and lift weights, but not everyone can be an Olympic
weightlifter, lifting 400lbs above their head. I know
in my case, that I could never lift 400lbs over my head
no matter how much I may train or how many years of devotion
I put into it. . . and if I tried, I would injure myself.This is, I think, the real problem with the people who
try long-term retention. They have this idea that “they
are going to be like M. Chia”, whether or not that is
something realistic for their bodies. They listen to ideas
from their minds that sound good, and they try to force their
bodies to listen. And eventually, if you force your
body long enough, it responds. But if it is not in
harmony with your body’s innate wisdom, you may not
like the response you get.Doing short-term retention for some types of people
may actually be a good thing, i.e. those that have
depleted jing levels and experience extreme fatigue
or weakness upon ejaculation. Cutting back on
ejaculation frequency for such people is good thing,
regardless of whether it comes from simple abstinence
or doing a retention practice. It can help build
back the body’s energy levels and jing reserves.
When you have more energy, and that energy is
flowing more freely through the body, orgasms
are also more potent and powerful. But for those
that choose to do retention practices, just because
“one vitamin” is good, does not mean that “15 vitamins”
are better. If you want to take things to an extreme
level and try to give up ejaculation entirely, then
a person shouldn’t be surprised if they get unsavory
results.Just my opinion . . .
S
My thoughts differ a bit, I am often asked by people who do not
have “craftsman style” training or jobs if doing the same thing
every day is not boring, do I become conditioned to it? My answer
to that would be no. Maybe from an outside observer it looks as
though I am doing the same movements for work (also applies to
chi kung) from my point of view every day has its own distinction.
Sometimes better than the day before, showing ways to make things
smoother. Sometimes worse which also opens areas of new introspection.It seems to me if you work, live, and practice from that sort of
mindset you are always sensitive to yourself and needs. M Chia may
have written a recipe for Healing Love practices but just like any
recipe actually used, it will not turn out the same. Everything must
be taken into account: type of heat (dry/wet/etc), freshness of ingredients,
measuring style, your own personal taste preferences, on and on and on….
This is where your skill will shine, if you have spent enough time
and intention on your prep years (eg. grounding work).Adel
I find a lot of people do get bored doing
the same thing, and constantly need new
and exciting adventures to keep them stimulated.I personally don’t really resonate with that.
I can be happy doing the same thing over and over and over again,
and never get bored or disinterested. I find that there
is plenty of richness even within the same thing, and
don’t need to go looking for something else.But honestly, it seems as if a lot
of people don’t operate this way . . .Again, the story ends up coming back to the basic fact
that everyone is different, and no simple recipe
can be applied to everyone.S
I definately love doing the same thing over and over too. I never used too but since my meditation has opened my eyes so to speak i can really enjoy doing some very basic movements over and over.
I started doing aikido a few months ago and i love doing the same sword movements over and over it’s like strong meditation. But if i don’t use meditation with my movements it can become boring very quickly. It is the fact that i am meditating and using my breath body movement and swing all together in a perfect motion forward (or attempt at) that it becomes very interesting. I am going deeper, or going somewhere, thats why it absorbs me. If it was mundane i would quickly get bored.
I always thought Aikido looked interesting,
it was the other martial art I considered doing
when I was trying to decide between that and Tai Chi,
years ago when I started Tai Chi (which ended up leading
me to the Healing Tao).According to Zen, it is said that each moment and breath
in life is unique, therefore nothing is truly a repeat
of what happened before. If one can observe this
uniqueness, in each individual moment, recognizing that
you will never see it again, then you will experience
each moment as fascinating and precious . . .S
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