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November 18, 2005 at 9:37 pm #8529GriffinParticipant
Since a great deal of time is spent collecting chi and refining it, wouldnt it make sense to have more chi available to cultivate? I think that sages have gone to the mountains to cultivate because there is more chi there to absorb. A mountain is basically a very large cone which funnels the earths chi into a point which makes it more available to cultivate faster.
The russians made huge fiberglass pyramids to test their properties. When the construction workers where putting them together they would get nauseous when they started to complete the tops of the pyramids. I think it was from too much chi. Also a pillar of energy showed up on radar streaming from the peaks of the pyramids.
If you used pyramids along with color therapy to balance each organ and proper exposure times, couldnt this be used as way to speed up cultivation? For instance you could use spot lights with colored tints to shine on the pyramids, or you for that matter, and rotate through the colors when the organ meridians are most active to get the most benefit. Essentially you would build your own mountain.
It would also be interesting if orgone (chi) accumulators could also be used in a similar way.
Here are some links to the russian pyramids:
http://www.gizapyramid.com/russian/picture-tour1.htm
http://www.gizapyramid.com/DrV-article.htmIm interested in what others think.
November 19, 2005 at 12:00 am #8530MaxParticipantPyramid is just a half of Octahedron, and to get the full effect of this specific energy you need to be in a full Octahedron. That’s why Pyramids in Egypt are so effective- beings that built them knew exactly what they were doing. Most people only pay attention to the upper part visible to everyone. To see the lower part takes more then the eyes and a logical brain.
Look in Google for ‘Platonic solids’. If you want something that will support your energy training, work with these structures:
Octahedron (4-dimensional realm)
Cube (5-D)
Dodecahedron (6-D)
Icosahedron (7-D)
Dodecahedron is the most effective for energy work as it is the structure you can use to work with other structures- traveling through other dimensions comes to mind. Secret spiritual schools would kill a student if they showed or talked about Dodec with outsiders. I suspect that all alien technology is based on Dodecahedron and other structures that are based on Dodecahedron. But this is all spiritual technology based stuff and nothing to do with cultivation. However, if you sleep in one of them, you would certainly have some weird experiences….
Making those structures the size you can actually fit in is another matter. Good luck…
November 20, 2005 at 7:01 pm #8532GriffinParticipantThanks for the info Max. Do you know of any sources that talk about the Dodecahedron?
November 21, 2005 at 12:56 pm #8534.freeform.Participanthave a look at this: http://www.metaforms.net/information/beautyinform.html
November 21, 2005 at 1:33 pm #8536karenParticipantNot only the shape, but the materials used.. for orgone devices, see:
http://www.towerbusters.com and
http://www.orgonite.infoand for some of the most beautiful pieces:
http://www.ozarkorgonite.com-Karen
November 21, 2005 at 5:31 pm #8538VCraigPParticipantWhen I first started studying Kan and Li with Michael I began to get spontaneous images of Octahedrons in various places.
Eventually I incorporated them into Fusion as collectors.
With the 4 Baguas front/back/right/left and two more base/crown in place I can visualize spinning octahedrons connected to the 3 dimensional bagua’s.
Spinning these in opposite directions on opposite sides (up/down right/left front/back baguas) gives a very powerful effect and immensely intensifies the energy coming into the vortex. So much so that I only do this for short intervals. I see them as crystals more so than just shapes.I believe that certain sacred geometricists believe that the shape of the extended energy body is actually an icosahedron (20 sided solid). Isn’t this in Drunvalo Melchizadek’s stuff?
Also, it is said that the core of the earth is made up of nickel and that it takes the form of duodecahedron crystals. 5 sided face, 12 sided solid. Interesting numbers.
How do you use duodecahedron in your work? Do you imagine yourself in the center of one?
M.Winn claims to know alot about sacred geometry but keeps it somewhat out of his teaching as being overly complicating.
Interesting stuff. Also kind of funny to me as I used to play games as a kid which used all of the Platonic solids as dice….
Craig
November 22, 2005 at 1:45 am #8540MaxParticipantThanks for the link- very few people sell connectors for the more advanced forms.
November 22, 2005 at 1:58 am #8542MaxParticipantAs far as I know the only people that built spiritual cultivation on spinning enegy fields are form Merkaba.org. Those are different form Drunvalo and his Flower of Life clan that stopped after activating Star Tetrahedron 3d and Octaherron 4d fields.
Gary Smith (merkaba.org) used to teach all the energy fields activations up to 12d, but now I believe they switched to something else. I don’t think they teach those activations anymore- maybe the reason was their meditations worked too well and they needed more control over their students and teachers. The only way you can learn this stuff is from some ex-teacher who is teaching the old school techniques. All the current teachers are prohibited from teaching (or practicing) anything outside the current curriculum. From what I see on their website, Gary is still in his head game stories so nothing changed since I left them 3 years ago. This is a very good example how regular mental garbage is replaced by spirutal one.
November 22, 2005 at 2:35 am #8544MaxParticipantHow do you use duodecahedron in your work? Do you imagine yourself in the center of one?
Before they teach you techniques, they make you sign a non-disclosure agreement so i can’t say publicly anything related to this. Plus I stopped doing this type of visualizations 2 years ago. If you concentrate less on the mental stuff and more on purifying your mind from such mental garbage, you and everyone else would be better off.Dodecahedron is a very powerful form. I’ll probably buy the connectors and build a big dodecohedron- I will post on the effects.
M.Winn claims to know alot about sacred geometry but keeps it somewhat out of his teaching as being overly complicating.
Michael Winn says a lot of things, but untill he actually present something concrete about it without being general, there is nothing more say about it. He is publishing his Atlantean book for 4 years now- did he say it was complete 3 years ago?If he is concerned about someone here buying it and sending it to everyone else on his email list, here is a good software to prevent this:
Lizard Safeguard – PDF Document SecurityNovember 22, 2005 at 4:16 am #8546singing oceanParticipantMichael Winn uses some very powerful and effective geometric forms in his upper level kan and li meditations, in much the same way the Baguas are used in the foundational qigong forms. I have found them to be very effective to accelerate the spiritual process of jing-qi-shen transformation. He has already released the most effective information from what his book contains, it just depends on whether someone is able to incorporate effectively it into their practice or not.
The geometric forms like the vesica pisces are somewhat useless unless they are actualized and connected with the consciousness of the five shen. Giving a permanent substance to the neutral force of the yuan shen creates a very powerful effect.
Whether or not someone considers this cultivation depends on their definition of cultivation.
November 22, 2005 at 5:54 am #8548Michael WinnKeymasterThanks for the lovely geo-show, Max.
Your insight into the Pyramid forming an octahedron below ground is correct.
The Pit is centered in the lower pyramid, and was used for purification of aepts before they were allowed to ascend into the upper pyramid, with the king’s chamber used for next level of initiation.However, you will miss the real action in spiritual octahedronal technology if you focus only on this static form of the octahedron (as shown in Max platonic solids show).
The pyramid shape and its power is testimony to the underlying five element structure of the Nature. Four elemental triangle/sides and the square bottom/earth. The octaheddron locks these two pyramids, base to base.
However, the dynamic aspect of the octahedron is revealed only when the two pyramids inside it are separated and inverted, as in all good alchemy, and the tips of each pyramid are pointed at each other. This actually forms the framework of a cube, but witih two sets of five-element pyramids acting dynamically inside the cube. the point where they meet, the center of the cube, is the neutral meeting point of yin and yang five phase forces.
Most bagua/trigram diagrams are depicted on a flat plane; the eight points, if projected into volumetric geometry, become a cube – holding two pyramids of yin and yang within it. Egypt and China were both focused on unlocking the spiritual power hidden within Earth/cube. Basic alchemy, east and west.
The chinese calendar is based on the dodecahedron, twelve terrestial cycles of the five elements. Too deep a topic to go into here.
I’ve been atop the Great Pyramid nine times.
When you spend time atop the Great Pyramid – my favorite spot on earth, other than Lao Tzu’s Ascension site near Louguantai – you begin to feel the invisible pyramid ABOVE the solid stone pyramid. This pyramid is inverted, i.e. it is upside down, with its point meeting the missing capstone of the Great Pyramid.That point of meeting between the formless pyramd above and the form pyramid below it is a broadcast point for the entire planet. Something I discovered quite by accident, 11 years before my atlantean teacher explained it to me, and showed me how to activate these two pyramids in order to stabilize the neutral point between them.
But i think that to describe spiritual technology as irrelevant to cultivation is like saying physical breathing is irrelevant to human life. Our life is greater than our breath, but without it, life ceases here.
If your goal is to create the cessation of life, I think a more accurate word than cultivation could be found.
michaelNovember 22, 2005 at 4:49 pm #8550VCraigPParticipantThanks for sharing what you can.
Re “Michael Winn says a lot of things, but untill he actually present something concrete about it without being general, there is nothing more say about it.”
Why you gotta be like that?
You certainly continue to have a chip on your shoulder about the subject of M.Winn. So he had a conversation with me wherein he alluded to sacred geometry, which is actually a LARGE body of information. So he doesn’t put it into his teaching in a big way. Why would you bother saying something like that. It just seems spiteful and not in the collegial atmosphere we are trying to promote here. NO point to it really. Like you said nothing more to say about it.
Thanks for the PDF lizard. I can certainly use that tool in my work.
Craig
November 23, 2005 at 12:28 am #8552MaxParticipantCraig,
I’m pretty sure Michael is not offended by my remark, nor was there my intention to make such offence. I wanted to trigger Michael to open up about this topic and it seems like it worked. I have my ways to express myself and it always offends a lot of people at first. After some time they get used to it and even appreciate it. If I have an opinion, I will certainly share it full force or be quiet. There is no half-way, baby!
People are afraid to speak up these days. They are asleep and confused- they became walking zombies – perfect sheep for their masters. That’s why the US government can get away with so many crimes and created so much bad karma for this country. You think things will get better? Lol, things are just getting started to be interesting…
People are playing with an idea of spirituality in a way like it some kind of hobby or something. Of course, there is nothing wrong with doing that but there is so much confusion on what’s real and what is not, you have to have a shitload of wisdom to see things clearly and make the right choices. That’s why doing meritorious deeds is the only safe way to progress without being sidetracked. Without right merit, you will go into all sort of ‘spiritual’ stuff that will be interesting but will bring you nowhere. With the right merit, there can be no mistakes.
November 23, 2005 at 1:03 am #8554MaxParticipantThanks for your interesting interpretation on octahedron and pyramid energies, Michael.
However, you will miss the real action in spiritual octahedronal technology if you focus only on this static form of the octahedron.
I would have elaborated on the spins of octahedron and the way it is used but due to non-disclosure agreement I can’t. Plus it’s just the small part of all the sacred form activations and would be taken way out of content.two pyramids inside it are separated and inverted, as in all good alchemy, and the tips of each pyramid are pointed at each other. This actually forms the framework of a cube, but witih two sets of five-element pyramids acting dynamically inside the cube. the point where they meet, the center of the cube, is the neutral meeting point of yin and yang five phase forces.
You are right, although it’s very different the way it’s used by people who take sacred forms as energy bodies to cultivate.When you spend time atop the Great Pyramid – my favorite spot on earth, other than Lao Tzu’s Ascension site near Louguantai – you begin to feel the invisible pyramid ABOVE the solid stone pyramid. This pyramid is inverted, i.e. it is upside down, with its point meeting the missing capstone of the Great Pyramid.
There is so much information not yet discovered or hidden about the pyramids of Egypt. All of it deeply connected with most of the other sacred locations around the world and the underground cities deep below.That point of meeting between the formless pyramd above and the form pyramid below it is a broadcast point for the entire planet. Something I discovered quite by accident, 11 years before my atlantean teacher explained it to me, and showed me how to activate these two pyramids in order to stabilize the neutral point between them.
Does it involve spining them in certain directions with speeds of a certain Golden mean ratio?But i think that to describe spiritual technology as irrelevant to cultivation is like saying physical breathing is irrelevant to human life. Our life is greater than our breath, but without it, life ceases here.
If your goal is to create the cessation of life, I think a more accurate word than cultivation could be found.
Some say that a controlled cesation of breath is the new begining to life. But I’m all for anything that will purify the body and mind.November 23, 2005 at 1:27 am #8556VCraigPParticipantFair enough. you prodded, I responded, defending what was not mine to defend. Touche’
I appreciate your comments.Craig
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