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Is America a wasteland of Addicts & are most Earthlings not “Awake”- What does it mean?

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  • February 10, 2007 at 1:43 am #20911
    Intelligence
    Participant

    A Sincere question to the forum:

    Are most humans on a lower evolutionary wavelength.. meaning, are they deep sleepy and yin inside of their brains, minds and life?

    Would anyone like to comment..

    In other words.. If you see somone like Anna Nicole SMith, speech slurre3d half dead from intoxication

    and you say “hey, there is a point inside of you, a center that is alive inside of you life and awake and has to recalibrate yourself”

    Do they have any idea what you are talking about.. Do you, whoever you are reading this have any idea what I am talking about..

    Do you know that point inside of yourself that is truly alive, truly awake.. that can say, wow, this is life.. this is REAL

    What do you think? do most people live their lives half asleep, inundated with doubts, worthlessness.. dimness within their own consiousness..

    do these people know what this point of clarity within their own minds and life is..

    I found it via two things:

    1) Meditation
    2) LSD

    what is it to be awakened and not asleep/zombie..

    where are humans in between the two?

    I simply do not think people are alive and awake or even have that quickenening inside themseleves most of the time.. i think they live in doubt and fear..

    for me, LSD was like lightenening that awoke this point, so do certain Taoist Buddhist yogic techniques

    but, honestly sometimes taoists techiniques go the other way..

    What do you think? they take you through this deep unconcious dream space riddled with emotions sexuality and sleepiness.. how can you reconcile the two states? total in the moment alive lightenening like awakened clarity and half sleepy dreamplane emotions and sexuality

    most humans appear to be more asleep than awake

    February 10, 2007 at 1:47 am #20912
    Intelligence
    Participant

    furthermore, why do most humans appear to live more in sleep than this palpable perception of awakeness..

    is it a species issue or a measurable wavelength in the brain..? can you awaken someone to crystalline white light TRUE clairty via biofeedback?

    can LSD awaken someone within their life and mind to this whit light lightnening quickening of true awareness?

    February 10, 2007 at 1:48 am #20914
    Intelligence
    Participant
    February 10, 2007 at 2:36 am #20916
    digdug
    Participant

    humans are on a “sleepy” wavelength
    that is more like being drunk and less like LSD..

    some taoist yogas take you “through” the astral
    unconscious and it seems difficult to reconcile the two

    few people experience a point of pute true “awareness’
    where life is as “real as it gets”
    they lived their whole lives in sleepiness,emotions,depression,drunkeness so they can release their sexuality

    it’s some kinf of lower alpha delta wavelength that is “yin”

    as a practicing taoists i think it is an issue of how to reconcile the
    dark sleepy water of the sexual unconscious with the light of pure
    awakened awareness..

    something is going on here that is difficult to describe but most
    people DO choose drunken dakrness to open up their sex

    AND

    few people ever even seem to experience that moment of pure awareness

    perhaps awakening that laser point of pure awareness within the darkeness of the unconsous sexual waters is the key to enlightenment immortality?

    February 10, 2007 at 2:38 am #20918
    digdug
    Participant
    February 10, 2007 at 7:09 am #20920
    wendy
    Participant

    It means that you already have the answers to your questions

    Your question should be:

    What can I do about it rather than are most earthlings asleep

    step out of your head and step into the world and make a change

    just don’t give them LSD as a solution, you might create a world that is even worse than sleep
    your ‘America is a wasteland of Addicts’ might become even more true.

    And this is a very honest question to you:
    It sounds like you are stuck in a time and space zone that you entered through your trips but it sounds that you are hooked by it and don’t seem to be able to accept the reality of earth as we live on it today – and I admit I had moments myself very similar, so this is not a judgement but something I recognize.

    If I may give you a tip, don’t forget the places you have been but try to make it physical in a way that it serves something for the better instead of space tripping and wondering what the hell you are doing here on this planet.

    Shape, take your experiences into the physical and use it in a practical way.
    Cultivate your virtues and cultivate your sexual energy in service of your heart.

    and this is just a very very personal question, is it possible for you to shorten your sentences in the submitting section because it is not inviting to read your postings, it has a slightly pushing feeling, at least to me.

    February 10, 2007 at 7:12 am #20922
    snowlion
    Participant

    hello,

    Here’s my $9.00 dollars worth

    ***Are most humans on a lower evolutionary wavelength.. meaning, are they deep sleepy and yin inside of their brains, minds and life? ***

    I feel the masses are more aware now than ever; people have developed a higher consciousness now and the paradigm has shifted already, & there will always be tragic cases/examples of people lost due to or sucked in to the fame/media frenzy.

    *** taoists techiniques go the other way***..

    Taoism cultivation that I have expierenced and practices teaches you to be fully alive and present…and balanced. I don’t personally have a “sleepy style feel” or look but its also integrated with physical practices, meditative and several other areas. But everyones expierence is different.

    ***most humans appear to be more asleep than awake***

    everyone is at a different stage…some travel high and some dont; and some like advocating someone to fly higher doesn’t mean better; can actually be more dangerous for them if not ready….expierences and levels of the Qi field, awareness, consciousness follow a path but if someone is at a “inner smile” path and doesn’t feel they need to go to kan & li for example doesnt mean that they are less or more…just possibly they rather travel deeper at that level, which is a good thing actually.

    Embodied practices take time and eack level needs to be woven deeply and expierenced,
    some always are trying to expierence the final big spiritual trancedence; but lack the will to expierence the joy of each level of expierence.

    SnowLion

    February 10, 2007 at 7:21 am #20924
    snowlion
    Participant

    ***can LSD awaken someone within their life and mind to this whit light lightnening quickening of true awareness?***

    40 years late with this, already proven to be the false path…a true spiritual path will lead you to what youre looking for..but all of us have to find what that is for each of us. If taking these work for you more power to you…but if you examine all the great voices of this generation, they crashed and burned hard in the end.

    Reminds me of the great musical giants saying they need to be “high” to play better very untrue, just a mask to deal themselves, one could say unwilling to face themselves.

    SL

    February 10, 2007 at 11:20 am #20926
    Nnonnth
    Participant

    Are most people not awake and ‘what does it mean’? To me it means something specific.

    I am not speaking about ‘enlightenment’ here, but about something basic to any spiritual path which happens after a while of training – maybe 1 or 2 years.

    If a person continues that long training and working every day, something starts to happen whereby they are in contact with a deeper layer of themselves. At that point they begin to have a kind of ironized relationship with their personality, and are able to make changes in it; they switch from blaming other people for the world’s problems and expecting ‘spiritual handouts’ (thus dis-empowering themselves), to looking into themselves and how they view everything. They start to trust their own inner feelings and intuitions more than any other single source of information. And they become much better listeners.

    That is what I call ‘awake’. I’ve started to see it happen in me and in others I know, and have gradually lost touch with those former friends who never experienced it. No path has a monopoly on it. There are obviously multiple gradations between fully-asleep drone and fully-enlightened master/adept (!), but this is special because it requires a leap. You have accepted that ‘you are not you’, or however you want to put it. Before this stage you are completely ruled by thoughts and feelings careering around your soul and aura, and are thus easily manipulated. After it, you take responsibility for all your thoughts and feelings and thus start to become master of your own destiny. You begin to be the master, soul-centred, in control, ready to dance with the universe and give it input.

    In my experience latent psychic powers start to function at this stage also. Kundalini can wake up and there may be spontaneous OBEs. Another sign of reaching it is that a person is able to concentrate on whatever they wish for as long as they wish without zoning. Obviously it is very difficult to influence underhandedly, manipulate or deceive a person who is able to do that. Finally, the person appears much more relaxed than other people; less afraid.

    Fear, more than any other single factor, keeps people functioning as drones, slaves to ‘karma’ and to evil people. A sign of this stage is the ability to conquer fears that previously held one back.

    Hope this helps!

    NN

    February 10, 2007 at 1:41 pm #20928
    Steven
    Moderator

    “Fear, more than any other single factor, keeps people functioning as drones, slaves to ‘karma’ and to evil people. ” — Nnonnth

    This statement is the key to the reason, I think.

    Here’s a personal story that encapsulates this:

    As time has progressed, I’ve found more and more peace during periods of quiet and solitude. So much so, that I’ve actually found it to be somewhat of an annoyance to be around some of my family and friends for the following reason:

    They CONSTANTLY have to have the TV blaring, music playing, or some other noise and visuals assaulting their senses. If they are in the car, the radio is on; if they are at home, the TV is on; if they are out somewhere, they have an IPOD turned on.

    Moreover, they usually respond with anger if I even dare suggest that we turn it off for a while.

    Once I asked an old friend of mine point blank WHY he didn’t want the sound etc. turned off for awhile. His answer was surprisingly honest and enlightening.

    He said, “Steve, because then I’d have to be in my own head, which is scary and I don’t want to go there. I _don’t_ want to know what’s in there.”

    This provides a better explanation than I could ever think of.

    Ultimately, most people would rather continue being unhappy, depressed, disconnected, asleep, etc.–as unpleasant as that might be–than to face themselves and put effort into something more, because doing so is SCARY, puts them in a place that is UNKNOWN to them (and hence FEARFUL).

    In other words, doing nothing and remaining in that state is easier, “safer”, and
    despite any unhappiness–they know what to expect!

    Best,
    Steve

    February 10, 2007 at 2:42 pm #20930
    Intelligence
    Participant
    February 10, 2007 at 2:53 pm #20932
    Nnonnth
    Participant

    – it can onyl distract you if you let it. NN

    February 10, 2007 at 5:12 pm #20934
    Alexander Alexis
    Participant

    If this is the only reply of the bunch that you find agreement with then you are standing on very very shaky ground and I feel afraid for you. Throughout your time on this forum you have consistently ignored or insulted all opinions, information and suggestions which would lead you to a grounded, useful expeience and instead exhorted the use of artificial substances to make your mind do what you want it to do at the expense of your body – exactly the opposite of what every system of cultivation in the world aims for.

    Two things come to mind as I think about this.

    First- Carlos Castaneda wrote many books on the Yaqui way on knowledge in which the use of natural hallucinogenic substances is described. He, himself, ingested these many, many times as part of the program of study he followed with his teacher, Don Juan. But all these occassions were supervised and ritualistic. And in the end, Don Juan informs him that he had to give Carlos these things so often only because he was such a blockhead. He cited that another of his students, Eligio, was so open that he needed to take them only once to get the point. Don Juan concluded by saying that the substances were so intense that they did “untold damage” to the person, but that that was the only way Don Juan could wake him up.

    Second- There is a documentary video from about ten years ago called “Timothy Leary’s Dead” which recounts his journey and his teachings until his death. Watching this story was a highly illuminating experience, showing what a person is like when all they are interested in doing is going farther and farther into their head and idolizing the powers of the brain. This poor soul was so completely lost by the time he died that he actually had a doctor surgically remove his head (Yes, and they filmed it happening) and put it in a container for posterity.

    I strongly appeal to the part of you that is deep inside watching all this that really wants freedom. Take a close look at the blockheadedness that you display, the resistance to your body and your life and everyone’s help in moving you in the direction of aligning your heart-mind with your body and away from all the thinking you are so fixated on and comfortable doing. For some strange reason you seem to think that your freedom lies outside your body, and that you can get to some nirvana by leaving it -in fact, wasting it- to get there. I hope you don’t have to go through the experience of finding out the hard way by killing yourself or your higher functions in this body.

    Really, this is a no-brainer.

    Good luck, Alexander

    February 10, 2007 at 7:13 pm #20936
    Steven
    Moderator

    I agree wholeheartedly, although this definitely takes some cultivation! ๐Ÿ™‚

    Let me expound a bit more on what I was saying earlier.

    What I was referring to, is that a number of people I interact with–at least in my mind–use sensory/auditory stimulation excessively.

    This excessive use I feel is an AVOIDANCE tactic–a way to escape from having
    to actually face themselves and unravel what it is that they are.

    What is also irritating is that it seems they would prefer to have this onslaught of sensory stimulation which puts them into this “zombie”-like state, than to turn it off and actually have meaningful dialog (or to sit in quiet).

    Of course, sometimes they manage to actually have a “conversation”, but usually the
    conversation is contentless and has no meaning because half of their brains are being burned up by this nonsense. It would be terrible if they actually had to say what they were thinking–oh, but wait a minute, that’s the problem, THEY’RE NOT THINKING.

    I am NOT advocating, however, that we should do the opposite and spend all of our time in our heads isolated from sensory input; after all, that is escapism also–just a different form.

    What I AM saying is that visual and auditory stimulation is too much a steady diet
    for a lot of people, not like the “seasoning” it should be treated as.

    Steven

    February 11, 2007 at 10:28 am #20938
    Nnonnth
    Participant

    .. I just meant, the only thing you can work on really is yourself. NN

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