March 10, 2005 at 12:58 pm #3164
I will, of course, reply directly and at length to Plato shortly about “semblance dharma”. But I thought these two emails from women who know plato might be helpful to him in the meantime to reflect on his questions baout virtue. They don’t want to get into the discussion but agreed to allow me to post these anonymously:
“I have no clue what Plato dumped on this board in the past but he really is out of his mind.
Because people feel so incredibly lonely and lost, there is no bigger
show than getting haunted, attacked, raped or violated by ‘ghosts’.
I experienced it myself because I opened myself as one big open vessel
because I had nothing inside of my own self to fill the giant gap within.
We lack the feeling of our body and in general ‘earth’, which makes
you really feel lost. There is no real self awareness or self respect
and we allow rape or violence because at least we are wanted at some
level. Sad, very sad but that is how it works.”
“I looked at your webforum yesterday. I’m glad I finally got to meet
plato on the trip to china so i have a take on him. he is a trip. His
name should be pluto rather than plato. he has such an intense
plutonian, scorpionic energy. and some deep insecurity he masks with
his strutting. Except for him the overall tone on the forum is much more civilized than it was a few years ago when he was ripping.”
It seems that Plato has got his new Buddhist rap down about virtue, but judging from the postings online he is having trouble disguising how difficult it is to live it. A sincere bit of advice to Plato for what I think would be the highest virtue attainable for him in this moment:
Get into a respectful relationship with a woman and work through it for as many years as possible, until you really learn to EMBODY the central Taoist virtues of balance and harmony. Any other notion of virtue/merit for you will probably be fantasy head tripping on your idea of Yang or acquisition of merit and delusional (like your rationale as to why Foxes are pestering you).
Seeking a new way to generate Yang through esoteric Buddhism may temporarily help you to empty out some of your false yang. But givent he deep contraction at your jing/sexual essence level, it will not address your near total ignorance of the possibillity of True Yin. Exploring and immersing yourself in True YIn would permanently antidote the false yang that plagues you. But it is not to be confused with the Buddhist notion of Emptiness – it requires respecting the spiritual nature of substance and Earth.
You are probably in the right group for this phase of your self-healing. A group mind/religion (your Dharma mind) is better than a straight jacket as the issues in your deeply contracted jing unwind with equal counter-force to your spinning head. This could have been corrected earlier if you had asked, but you didn’t, part of your whole excess/false yang syndrome.
So there is no way to separate the notion of virtue from who you uniquely are adn the path that it compels you to create in order to unfold it.
MichaleMarch 10, 2005 at 3:53 pm #3165
I eagerly and sincerely await your answer to my semblance dharma inquiry.
However, your choice to approach my question of virtue in your system by posting anonymous comments from some women about me is absolutely pathetic.
You launch such an attack because your conscience is already afraid of the potential “character assasination” your own lack of integration is waiting to engender–much like a man traumatized by past violence who over-reacts and escalates a simple verbal confrontation into a murder in an attempt to beat his perceived enemy to the proverbial punch.
It is like the other night I was in Times Square and a crazed preacher was screaming that the other commuters have no faith because of bad deeds.
The preacher was not so crazy. How can you “let go” via faith if you know deep down what karma is coming around for you?
Anyway, I have been living with a woman now for 4 years. She is from a taoist military family in China and would you know that in 4 years we have had maybe 2 arguments which were completely settled within 2 hours of their conception.
One of the reasons I am so successful with her is because she is a real woman and not one of the fake women you see almost everywhere these days. With her assitance I have become a far greater person then I could have ever become by myself.
I am sure you know exactly what I am talking about Michael, since anyone familiar with the magic of King Solomon knows the secret to success is by riding on a woman’s back. They key is to prevent yourself from being devoured by her while she supplies the substance to manifest your dream, and then not using her up in the process so she can serve some other man when you are through with her. Tragically, over time the “sex” magic of King Solomon turned into the pimp-ho relationship and these days it has degenerated in abhorrant sexual slavery–commonly known as “trafficking.”
Yeah, the bitches of the Healing Dao (including Spyrelx) think me an abuser of women when in fact they are just failures at relationships themselves with egos too big to accept health because that would mean giving up their illusions. Like they say, “don’t hate the player, hate the game.”
Much like stupid american broads who assume that a white man with an asian woman is a reject or a sexual fetishist instead of seeing they (western women) are the ones with the problem, I am sure it comes as a shock that someone as “fucked up” as me could be in a sane, wonderful relationship for years. How could that be! A relationship where nobody bullies anyone, and non-ejaculatory sex (at least in recent times since I train so hard lately) is in constant abundance. She must be a subservient slut with no self-esteem! LOL!!!
Yes, I had to go through relationship hell to get to heaven (if I’d even call ANY relationship heaven), but here I am.
As I have said before, everything in this world is inverted quite a bit and the evil looks good and the good looks evil.
You need a pair of mirrors instead of a pair of glasses to find your way around this world.
So… my girl scolds me for wasting my precious time posting on this board and I scold her back saying that it is my duty to help other people because I know what it is like to struggle with everything I’ve got.
Yes, it is correct–I do have a massive dammed up plutonian force. It is in my birthchart. My girlfriend is also a scorpio, ironically.
One of my big dreams is to unleash and integrate this plutonian energy. What a wonderful accomplishment that would be!!!
So why do you attempt to shame me for it?
You can’t even do Tai Chi without shaking Michael–wait, I guess that is the incredible energy coursing through your system?
Maybe you are dammed up too! 😉 So what? It is okay. We all have our shit to deal with.
Having trouble integrating some energy doesn’t make you a bad person.
I am not a wounded child to be pitied. Shame is one of the weapons you “light-siders” use. You “feel sorry” for those you hate instead of just hating them.
Hypocracy. Makes you weak.
My problem is that this place is full of men who have become subservient to women and subservient to their own sexual desires. This means that they have surrendered to mediocrity. Nowadays people think ejaculation doesn’t effect your cultivation!
They say that jing is not in limited supply and all you have to do is reach into the neutral core and tap into the universal sea of jing.
They worship the goddess.
So let’s stop the character assassinations and talk about the issues.March 10, 2005 at 8:13 pm #3167
“Methinks he doth protest too loudly!”
With each posting your fundamental hatred of women becomes clearer.
Look no further for the cause of your difficulty in progressing in alchemy.
The issues are not intellectual. Your character – and thus your virtue – is embeded in your jing.
michaelMarch 11, 2005 at 4:59 am #3169
at least with what he says about chinese women anyway.
nothing can be fina than to get it here in china in the moooornin!
the girls have something rare that’s a-missin’ in amer…ica. moooornin!
oh, yeah! the girls here have sump’m that’s rare in america. just a feeling. given me new perspectives on my culture and theirs. i’ll leave it at that. both have their plusses and minusses.
with that in mind, i think if plato spent a cupla years here he’d find out a lot about chinese girls he doesn’t know from the stellar example he may have at home. the battle of the sexes goes on here too.March 11, 2005 at 5:02 am #3171
there’s a lot that chinse women and american women have in common too. a lot.March 11, 2005 at 9:09 am #3173
. . . the less believable he seems.
For those of you who missed this, about a year or so ago, little plato was all excited about being a High Status Male. He had found a few web sites that was all about how to pick up women and get them to sleep with you using psychological manipulation. (Basically you would do various tricks so as to appear sensitive and appealing, while also keeping them insecure about themselves, all with the goal of getting them to drop their panties. Then of course you would move on.). This was, I think, the last BIG THING that plato was into before this recent embrace of Nan, Bodri & Co.
Plato went on and on about how women had reptilian brains and how the male world was divided into, on the one hand, High Status Males like himself, guys who were playas who knew the game and were getting chicks right and left, and, on the other hand, the rest of us losers.
So you can imagine my surprise when I read in platos post above: I have been living with a woman now for 4 years . . . . With her assistance I have become a far greater person then I could have ever become by myself.
So that would mean that last year, when he was a High Status Male — getting laid right and left, with all those bitches and hos wrapped around his finger — he was actually . . . uh . . . LIVING WITH HIS GIRLFRIEND OF THREE YEARS IN A COMMITTED AND LOVING RELATIONSHIP.
Yeah, maybe thats the way it is.
On the other hand, maybe he was just full of shit last year, just kind of puffing himself up about stuff he didnt know anything about and then ridiculing anyone who disagreed with him — because thats kind of what hes about.
In fact, maybe, he didnt KNOW much about that High Status Male stuff at all, or PRACTICE much of it either. Maybe he just read a few things, and got all excited about it, and then got on this board and exaggerated his knowledge, experience and abilities, in a childish little bit of self aggrandizement, and then ridiculed anyone who didnt agree with him.
Sound familiar?March 11, 2005 at 10:48 am #3175
no txt for tricks!
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