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A buddy of mine–a real porn aficionado–just sent me this article link.
My porn viewing is rare to never; his is daily. He argues I’m sexually
repressed; I argue he’s caught in a fantasy. So his article link is
his attempt to score a point in the debate. 🙂I’m not sure what to think about the article. I’d be interested in
the opinions of forum readers, especially the women.Warning: The article has a couple pics of women’s breasts; not a big deal,
but I made the mistake of decided to read his link in a public
computer lab :O Knowing it was coming from him, I guess I should have known better!I myself don’t have any judgement about it in an abstract context, and think that it can be beneficial in releasing sexual repression. The Chinese literati certainly looked at erotic drawings for pleasure, and I think naked bodies are pleasurable to view.
But several caveats:
1. It’s the thought forms associated with the erotica that matters – everything is based on intention. When you are cultivating your sexual energy as in a Taoist fashion, you are not merely trying to get rid of cutural sexual repression. You are trying to interate yourself on a higher level, a sexual-spiritual level. So very soon you will leavea the realm of limited benefit from releasing cultural sexual repression. And discover that you are sending your energy body to copulate with ghosts.
2. the studies don’t really show any true BENEFIT. They just show that people like it, and don’t report any harm from it, i.e. they don’t run out and commit sex crimes.
Well people report liking over eating fats and sugar, but that doesn’t mean it is beneficial to our health. Pleasure and health are two different things.
I think pleasure is important, but are you getting the highest pleasure and are they contributing to your health?
One of the porn studies quoted is from Danmark, which also has much more open attitude about sex. So they are much less likely to become obsessive sexually, which is really the problem.
The best solution is for everyone to have more actual sex, not substitute fantasy sex. And take responsibility for the pleasure they are giving and receving, and learn that there is a lot of hidden content in sexual exchange. In this ense,sex workers are really doing double labor, and porn is just a cheap subsittute for their live work.
Love to hear more from others…
MichaelI totally agree. A very grounded perspective. I noticed Asia and some Taoist traditions are very open to sex workers. They also seem to be more comfortable with getting into a marriage. Wonder if there is a link.
Yes I completely agree that it’s all about intention.
I find that if I look at porn mindfully that It’s OK to a certain point and in short viewing times, after that it can become a self eluding and an energy draining experience that doesn’t enhance any kind of real pleasure. For me it easily can become overly mental and let physical/spiritual. I find that if used to a self eluding point that it lessens the pleasure and short circuits the whole sexual experience, and robbing me of chi.
But during a short initial viewing of porn mindfully I found it to help in activating sexually stimulating channels. Than at that point for me it’s more beneficial to turn my focus back inward a to cultivate a deeper sense of pleasure.
For me it’s a very fine line when dealing with porn.
It’s much more important that if I’m going to look at it I set my intention clearly before hand.Damon
It seems that one of the main issues with people projecting their Qi into fantasies is that there is no emotional/virtue quality connection in the same way that there is with a person.
When someone has cultivated their connection to the feeling quality of qi, you can naturally sense it from another person in any interaction, even if just on a subtle level – whether that person is interacting with you in a positive/negative way.
Sometimes you meet someone, and they look like a great person, so you project your feeling onto them of what you want them to be. Later on, when you get to know them, you sometimes experience a completely different side to that person that does not fit into your initial projection. So if people are projecting their own needs and wants onto virtual sex objects, what would it would it be like to meet them in person? Sure, you would be attracted to them, but would you like them as a person? That may also matter to some and not to others, a personal choice I suppose.
>>>The best solution is for everyone to have
>>>more actual sex, not substitute fantasy sex.
>>>And take responsibility for the pleasure they
>>>are giving and receving, and learn that there
>>>is a lot of hidden content in sexual exchange.
>>>In this ense,sex workers are really doing double labor,
>>>and porn is just a cheap subsittute for their live work.My friend’s opinion is that a sex worker isn’t that
much different–that the sex worker is playing a character
which is not actually “who they are”. In other words,
if you have sex with a sex worker, you are still projecting
your energy into a fantasy. In other words, despite the
presence of a live person, you are not receiving an
authentic exchange–just the illusion of one.Of course, his knowledge of qi flow is quite limited,
and is moreover uneducated in Taoist theory and somewhat
unbelieving. However, I wonder how much merit there
is to his counterpoint. Obviously if one employs the
services of a sex worker, the heart connection may be
minimal–but aside from that, speaking PURELY ENERGETICALLY,
is there a realistic exchange, or is it just the illusion of one?What separates fantasy from reality?
S
>>>Sometimes you meet someone, and they look like
>>>a great person, so you project your feeling
>>>onto them of what you want them to be. Later on,
>>>when you get to know them, you sometimes experience
>>>a completely different side to that person that does
>>>not fit into your initial projection. So if people
>>>are projecting their own needs and wants onto virtual
>>>sex objects, what would it would it be like to meet
>>>them in person? Sure, you would be attracted to them,
>>>but would you like them as a person? That may also
>>>matter to some and not to others, a personal choice I suppose.This, in a spooky way, reminds me of a certain
Star Trek: The Next Generation episode.
Episode summary listed below . . .So what’s the problem, the fantasy or the projection of
the fantasy, or both?Can you engage in fantasies, via porn, via sex workers,
via whatever and get something positive? Or is it doomed
to be an energy draining experience?S
Episode Summary of “Galaxy’s Child” ST:TNG:
“Captain’s log, stardate 44614.6. We are approaching Starbase 313, where we will pick up a shipment of scientific equipment for transport to a Federation outpost in the Guernica system. During the journey, we will be hosting a special guest.”
The USS Enterprise-D is en route to Starbase 313 in order to pick up some equipment to transport to the Guernica system. At the starbase, Dr. Leah Brahms, comes on board to study the engine modifications Geordi La Forge has made. Dr. Brahms was responsible for most of the engine design on the Enterprise, when the ship was built at Utopia Planitia. La Forge, however, previously met Dr. Brahms in a holodeck simulation, in order to get the ship out of trouble, and has also had some romantic experience with the computer-simulated female.
When Captain Picard informs La Forge of Dr. Brahms’ arrival and asks him to greet the Doctor on the Enterprise’s behalf, La Forge is more than happy, hoping that he and the “real” Brahms might become romantically involved.
But once Dr. Brahms beams aboard, she immediately insults La Forge and accuses him of having “fouled up my engine designs.” She continues complaining all the time, and charges that the engine modifications La Forge has made are completely useless.
Meanwhile, on the bridge, Data informs Riker that the sensors are picking up some strange readings in the Alpha Omicron system, which was then still unexplored. Riker decides that they should investigate, since “we’re way ahead of schedule.”
Back down in engineering, La Forge tries to get along with Dr. Brahms, reminding her that “There is no reason for us to argue, we’re on the same side here.” To reach a better understanding, he proposes “Why don’t I take you on a little tour, show you the adjustments I made, why I think they work and we can begin pulling together on this?” La Forge then shuts down the warp core in order to show the dilithium chamber to Brahms. La Forge then suggests that the two meet later in order to “plan out our agenda for the next day or two.” Brahms agrees to meet with La Forge in his quarters at 1900 hours, maybe to have a bite to eat he claims that he can make a great fungilli. Brahms tells that she loves fungilli and smiles for the first time since she has arrived on the ship.
The ship then arrives at the Alpha Omicron System and the crew are starting to investigate the source of the strange energy readings the ship’s sensors previously picked up. They learn that a lifeform is orbiting the seventh planet of the system. A lifeform, that is, as Picard puts it, “just to live between the stars, and have the entire galaxy as a home.” While the ship analyzes the lifeform, it probes the ship, suddenly starts to attack it, and captures it in “an energy damping field.” All of the crew’s attempts to free themselves fail, and then the computer announces: “Radiation levels at 300 millirads per minute and rising. Lethal exposure in one minute.” Forced to act quickly, Picard orders phasers be fired at the creature, at minimum power. But even at minimum power, the phaser fire is strong enough to kill the creature, and ruin Picard’s efforts to initiate peaceful relations with a new species. Almost stunned by the accident, Picard wants to go to his ready room, as Data starts picking up some energy reading from the lifeform – a reading which may suggest that the creature is still alive.
Meanwhile, La Forge goes into great efforts to prepare himself and his quarters for Brahm’s arrival – he struggles to teach the computer what a “cozy” light intensity is, tries to choose a good ambient music and gets into casual wear, since “uniforms are so formal.” Brahms arrives on time, and they start to talk. She admits, that she is often very possessive about her engine designs “… it’s like … they are your children.” She tells that she doesn’t want to be that way but sometimes she simply feels better with engine designs than with people. La Forge understands, and Brahms also sympathizes with him. When La Forge tries to make a pass at her, she cuts him off and tells him that she doesn’t think it would be appropriate if she stayed and leaves.
Back on the bridge, Data, Riker and Picard analyze the new energy reading from the body of the creature, and conclude that it is a second lifeform a child. The parent lifeform attacked the ship because “it was about to give birth.” Worf, Crusher, Counselor Troi, Riker and Picard meet in the Observation Lounge to discuss what to do. Dr. Crusher suggests, that the child may not be able to free itself from the body of the parent being. Riker then proposes using the ship’s phasers as a scalpel to perform a Caesarean section. Worf advises against this, claiming that the child may be a threat to the ship, just as was the parent. Picard agrees, but reminds him that they have killed the parent, and so they are now responsible for the survival of the child.
The next morning in engineering, Brahms and La Forge go through a list of discrepancies which Brahms has found in the engine modifications. They crawl into some Jefferies tubes in order to inspect the power-transfer conduits. Brahms quickly notices that the sound of the engines is not correct, and La Forge shows her the cause: he has added a so-called mid-range phase adjuster. Brahms is quite overwhelmed by this technical refinement and tells La Forge that he should write a scientific paper on it, as she feels that this improvement should be shared. La Forge refuses and claims that he isn’t good at writing. Instead, he proposes, that “we could collaborate. Writing is one of your strong points.” When Brahms hears that, she asks him how he knows her so well, that he knows things about her even though they never met before. He lies, and claims that he admired her work and so he studied her for years and is a great fan of her and wanted to meet her a long time ago. Brahms realizes that La Forge is seriously interested in her, and tells him that he should know that she is married one thing that La Forge didn’t know.
On the bridge, the crew do as planned, and place an incision in the dead body of the parent, clearing the way for the child creature. This creature then makes its way out of the body, and the Captain is very relieved.
Meanwhile, in Ten Forward, a depressed La Forge plays a game of chess with Guinan, and speaks his mind. He says that he is quite disappointed in the ‘real’ Leah Brahms, as the holographic simulation of her was so very different. Guinan points out that the computer may have been able to give the holo-Brahms personality from her Starfleet records, but when it came to the relationship, “you filled in the blanks. And you had a perfectly wonderful, marvelous little fantasy.” She advises him that he should take a good look at her, and see for who she really is, and not for what he may want her to be.
Back on the bridge, the crew make sure that the child being is okay, and then set to resume their course to Starbase 313. Riker suggests, that “it might be wise to put some distance between us before we go to warp.” Picard agrees and orders the ship to be moved away from the newborn at a gentle velocity. The newborn however, starts to follow the ship, not letting off it. Troi reveals that it now thinks that the Enterprise is its mother. They increase speed, but the creature just won’t let go. Ultimately, it attaches itself to the hull of the Enterprise and starts draining the ship’s power directly from the fusion reactors. Again, Troi has the answer: “It’s feeding off the energy from the Enterprise as it would from its mother.” Picard decides that they should not try and remove the child from the hull by force.
“Captain’s log, supplemental. Since the newborn has attached itself to the hull, it has been making greater and greater demands on the ship’s energy. But we have been able to stabilize our power systems temporarily.”
In the observation lounge, the crew discuss what action to take. Data states that he may be able to determine the destination of the parent being Dr. Crusher claims that “perhaps it was on its way to provide a safe and supportive environment to its newborn.” The Captain decides to head for this destination, and to leave the child alone there. Dr. Brahms, who is part of the discussion, suggests that Junior could be removed from the hull by opening the door to shuttle bay two. The pressure from inside the bay might push the child away from the hull, as it is nearly completely covering the bay door. The Captain agrees to this plan.
On their way to engineering, La Forge and Dr. Brahms discuss how they could fit the engines for continually rising demands of power of the child-lifeform. Dr. Brahms asks La Forge whether there is a complete list of the modifications he has made. Captain Picard then summons La Forge to the bridge. La Forge asks Dr. Brahms to proceed to engineering alone, and tells her that Ensign Pavlik can show her the computer file which contains the list with the engine modifications. There she discovers the holographic simulation in which La Forge met her for the first time.
When La Forge returns to engineering and Pavlik tells him that Dr. Brahms has gone to the holodeck, he immediately runs away to intercept her. He arrives too late, and Dr. Brahms has already seen most of the program. She is outraged by what she has seen and shouts angrily at La Forge. He claims that nothing intimate happened and insists that it was just a professional collaboration. Ultimately, he lets loose and tells Dr. Brahms what he really thinks about her. “Alright, look. Ever since you came on board you’ve been badgering me. And I’ve taken it! I’ve shown you courtesy, respect and a hell a lot of patience.” He says that he regrets having offered her his friendship, and leaves the puzzled Dr. Brahms alone in the holodeck.
Meanwhile on the bridge, Data has managed to determine the destination of the parent being, an asteroid belt and the ship is set to head there. Upon its arrival, Data suggests that some chemical compounds in the asteroid field may provide sustenance for this lifeform and that the child would have a good supply of food there. Now in shuttle bay two, La Forge opens the external door and deactivates the atmospheric force field but the child does not let go of the hull. Instead, it increases its power drain and starts emitting radio transmissions to communicate with other beings of its species. Three other creatures in the asteroid belt immediately head for the Enterprise – leaving some ten minutes until intercept. Riker orders main power to be shut down to compensate for the increasing power drain of the child.
Down in engineering, the crew is desperate to find a way to get the child-creature off the ship’s hull. Dr. Brahms shows up, and tells La Forge that she has an idea. She suggests that they need to look for a way to “sour the milk.” However, since the ship is already running on auxiliary power only, this plan seems impossible to accomplish at first. But then La Forge has an idea and suggests adding “vinegar” to the baby’s milk. Since all matter in space vibrates in a 21 cm radiation band, he suggests that they could try and “alter the power frequency so that it’s completely foreign to the baby’s natural vibrations.” Dr. Brahms agrees and La Forge informs the bridge that he and Dr. Brahms together have a plan.
They make the necessary preparations and implement the plan. Dr. Brahms lowers the wavelength down to 2 cm, but the lifeform’s power drain is unaffected. After taking the wavelength down to 0.2 cm, the creature begins to drain more and more power, and notifies the other creatures, which immediately accelerate their approach and prepare to attack the Enterprise. However, when Dr. Brahms lowers the wavelength even further to 0.02 cm, the child disengages and is welcomed by the other creatures, which cease their plans to attack the ship. Riker orders main power to be restored and the ship piloted away. Picard then complements La Forge and Brahms for having “weaned the baby.” Down in engineering, the two look at each other and congratulate each other for their cooperation.
Now having become friends, Brahms and La Forge have a drink in Ten Forward, laugh and speak their minds. She apologizes for being so impolite, and he apologizes for having lied to her. They agree to remain friends. A message from her husband then summons Dr. Brahms and she walks out of Ten Forward.
http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Galaxy%27s_Child_%28episode%29
I am not clear about your real question.
The good and the bad about porn will be discussed till the end of times.
Personally it is neither appealing nor repulsive to me, I have no interest in it but I am not judging it either.It is there, and serves the good and the bad in people depending on their situation.
For some it will be a ‘good’ thing, helpful to help their sexual repressed feelings, their feelings of loneliness, needs for sexual satisfaction when not available or problematic in a relationship. It serves some purpose to at least give some relieve on some level of a person’s life.
It might even prevent harm to people in real life. It might give hope.But so much of it is damaging on other levels of someone’s life.
It might blind, it might distract from real life, looking at porn as the perfect situation, no longer realizing that a real relationship is WORK or no longer wanting to commit in a relationship that takes work.Maybe it is there for the lazy ones, easy access, easy pleasure, easy satisfaction, no work, no stress.
Maybe it is there for the desperate ones, who want but can not find, a loving partner.
It all depends on where that person is standing in him/herself, in a fulfulling or harming relationship or lonely, desperate, seeking.
When you need porn, there is a need, so much is clear.
When there is deep love AND sexual satisfaction, the eyes, the heart and the soul do not need, do not want, the images of the masks of unknown others.Why would you want to connect to an unknown body, an unknown soul, an unknown heart.
Maybe scared to connect with a real body, a real soul or a real heart?
Maybe not finding the right man/woman to connect with the way you want?Is the virtual babe a safe situation where everything is under control, press button, stop button, rewind button,…
Is that what porn addicted people are looking for? Control over their life? Control over the lives of others? Without any emotional investment? Without the work of transformation? Just the instant pleasure and release?Just thoughts that come up, no answers, no judgements
Only the person can judge whether he/she needs it for some period of time in their life, for some particular reason.Oh and one last note. In countries where porn is forbidden, rape, abuse and sexual violence is all over the place too, only it is hidden, it happens behind closed doors. So saying that allowing porn or denying porn is helping to decrease or increase sexual violence is not dissolving the sexual anger or frustration on a large scale.
It is the personal virtue, the love for oneself, the connection with something more profound that ripples through your vains and expands from your heart that makes the difference.Excellent, excellent post Wendy; thanks for adding your insight.
I feel the truth of your words resonate throughout post, and have
to agree 100% with just about everything you wrote. I shared
your post with my buddy, and he can’t find much disagreement either.
Your words have provided a rich source of further contemplation
on both ends . . . SAlthough it was seldom mentioned until he was no longer around, Whitey was a notorious sodomite, even though he traveled with women. Always butch, he vacationed in Provincetown and when in Boston liked to sit for hours at the bar at Jacques, the city’s oldest transvestite bar, checking out the local talent…one of his younger female beards, a dental hygienist named Catherine Greig, had two black French poodles, Nikki and Gigi. When Greig joined Whitey on the lam in early 1995, she left the hounds with her twin sister. After the sister was herself convicted on federal charges relating to phone calls from her twin, she had the two poodles put down. Whitey was devastated.
-http://thebrothersbulger.comAnd discover that you are sending your energy body to copulate with ghosts…the best solution is for everyone to have more actual sex, not substitute fanTasy sex. And take responsibility…
-MICHAEL WINNFor example, if one were practicing the stage of generation of the Kalachakra Tantra, one would need to imagine oneself as Kalachakra, as follows. One’s body is dark blue, with three necks of black, red, and white, and four faces of black, red, white and yellow, each with three eyes. One’s hair is bound on the top of one’s head, and one’s crown is ornamented with vajra, a half moon, and a figure of Vajrasattva. Various ornaments-earrings, garlands, and so forth-adorn one’s body. There are twelve upper arms-two red arms, two blue arms, and two white arms on each side-and twenty-for arms-four black arms, four red arms, and four white arms on each side. One’s hands respectively hold a vajra, a sword, a trident, a curved knife, a triple arrow, a vajra hook, a drum, a mallet, awheel, a spear, a staff, an axe, a bell, ashield, a khatvanga (a three-pointed instrument), a skull filled with blood, abow, a noose, a jewel, a lotus, a conch, a mirror, an iron chain, and four-faced head of Brahma. One leg is read, the other white; one’s right foot treads on a Cupid, the other on a Rudra. Kalachakra embraces his consort Vishvamata, whose body is yellow, with four faces of yellow, white, blue, and red, each with three eyes. She has four arms on each side, which respectively hold a curved knife, an iron hook, a rosary, a skull, a noose, a white lotus, and a jewel…one would also imagine the ten goddesses-shaktis-who stand on the petals of a lotus beneath the central deities.
-DANIEL COZORT, Highest Yoga TantraI haven’t ever been serious consumer of pornography myself and I would pay for it only in such situation that there would be some really serious and urgent reason for doing so.
But I have done my homework also in this matter.
I for example can immediately name babes which I like and which I don’t. Because I have some firm links to Mexico, I can say that for sure Jenaveve Jolie, Alexis Love and also Melody Thornton (well she is actually singer and dancer)are my favourites though I am myself verry very white.
I’m also aware that Michael Winn steadily dislikes historical Buddha Shakyamuni especially, and buddhists, and Buddhadharma in general.
So what’s up with my posting?
It was this remark ‘energy body copulating with ghosts’ which aroused my intention.
My claim is simply that there are indeed traditions which consciously look contact with this kind of ghosts. Especially it seems to be difficult for certain kind of male practitioners to find suitable sexual partners (in flesh) from adult females.
Anyway it seems that it is possible to attract above mentioned ghosts also by not being sexually active. This might have something to do with this Binary Soul -concept (PHILOSOPHY: 2006-04-07).
It’s the case where the human part doesn’t suffer from not leading active sexual life, but it’s the component which naturally dwells on the other side of the threshold, which gets agitated when there isn’t sex or certain kind of social contacts activated by it’s human double.
I’m not speaking about my own situation, because I know that I’m naturally both brutal (not stupid, but unpleasantly unemotional and incisive) and macho and in these conditions can get what is needed without too much coercion, still in the end.
Historically it seems that especially in India original tantric tradition was tradition of exceptionally sanguine type of human being and in the later stages (for example Nathas) you see that in some sects boys didn’t necessary anymore prefer girls but other boys for their yogic complement.
Should be clear that I am myself not gay though I live in the country from where also Tom of Finland comes. I’m only trying to even a bit understand logic which runs through things.
COMRADE HOWDY
http://www.librarything.com/userpics/TomofFinlandFound.-big.jpg
>>>So what’s up with my posting?
Yeah, the beginning of your post was confusing. 😉
>>>It’s the case where the human part doesn’t suffer
>>>from not leading active sexual life, but it’s the
>>>component which naturally dwells on the other side
>>>of the threshold, which gets agitated when there
>>>isn’t sex or certain kind of social contacts
>>>activated by it’s human double.Hmm . . . This is an interesting idea.
Reminds me of the larger self/lower self heated argument
I got into with Chris a while back . . .>>>Historically it seems that especially in India
>>>original tantric tradition was tradition of
>>>exceptionally sanguine type of human being
>>>and in the later stages (for example Nathas)
>>>you see that in some sects boys didn’t necessary
>>>anymore prefer girls but other boys for their yogic complement.Sounds fishy to me.
I don’t think that anything can really alter sexual orientation
or behavior thereof. More likely theirs is a sneaky argument
to help prevent discrimination from narrow-minded heterosexuals.>>>Should be clear that I am myself not gay though
>>>I live in the country from where also Tom of Finland comes.What is Tom of Finland? Some kind of Finnish gay porn?
I don’t understand your reference; maybe because I’m not European.S
Just saw this on MSN; had to laugh 🙂
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What? Sex workers not tax deductible?
Lawyer went all the way to Tax Court with attempt to write off prostitutes and porn as medical deductions.
Posted by Jeff Schnepper on Wednesday, February 3, 2010 10:47 AMYou gotta admire his chutzpah.
Chutzpah is a technical tax term that means, Nice try but no way were going to allow this deduction!
Attorney William G. Halby, who practiced law for 20 years and specialized in taxation, went all the way to Tax Court. When the members stopped snickering, the Court said no.
Halbys attempted medical deductions for visits to New York prostitutes and the costs of videos and other pornographic materials were not allowable under the Tax Code.
Brain sturgeon (yes, its not a typo I mean fish head) Halby kept journals of the visits, including the date, the name of the service provider and the amounts paid over two years. But, the Court complained, the visits were not part of a course of prescribed therapy and he failed to discuss the visits with his doctors afterward to determine the impact on his health.
Halby may be a tax lawyer. But he should have checked this out with the Tax Corner before taking off his clothes.
Medical expenses are payments you make for the diagnosis, cure, relief, treatment or prevention of disease. They dont have to be given by a licensed or certified practitioner but must qualify as medical care.
Halby should have first gone to a doctor, complaining of a medical problem or condition. Perhaps, no blood in his brain because it had all gone to his extremities, or a stiffness that wouldnt go away? Had the physician then prescribed a course of treatment that included visits to a licensed sex worker in Nevada, the Tax Court would have had a harder time denying his deduction.
Even his travel from New York to Nevada would have been allowable because the primary purpose was for medical services.
As my wife Barbie says, Another example not of planning to fail, but failing to plan.
So, Ill just take another toke of my medical marijuana (still not deductible by the Feds even if legally prescribed) and plan my future medical deductions. But, Barbie put me on notice. Shes not taking this lying down. If I actually implement my plan, Id better be prepared to file my tax return as married, filing very separately.
studying moving ictures is next step after studying static picture. a bardon concentration exercise.
so a medium checklist.0.
there is difference between porn where ejaculation is shown and one htat there is not.
latter usually has scripts 🙂
1.observe her emotionsthere is fear, anger, hate…
younger usually have fear, seasoned have hate2.observe her mouth
a.
spincter is spincer, either vagina or mouth
so big mouth is big vagina is tigress/elephang
but small is small is deersome deers are riding whales/elephants
it shows
riding whales is already stretching to the uterus entrance inso breaking the uterus seals
especially when accompanied by armoring of bodyb.
if mouth correlates with her vagina opening
observe her mouth
is it tense or relaxed
tension of mouth/vagina is a form of armouring3.
observe her forehead
is she controlling character that yield through governing channel
or more yin character and yielding is through conceptual channel where more armoring in around the mouth4.
observe the sounds
is she using more consonants (sh, ch..) which is her way of maintaing control/armoring
or is she incorporating vowel (i,a, o) which is her wav of yielding
or is she just close to silent which is least interfearing(note: being riding mercylessly but drugged males for 6 hours well she can yield once but then she is busted out which is not plesure if she still has to finish her shift
so armoring is survival strategy)5.
do you see a human or fox6.
observe armoring of her torso/spine
how alive is it
where is it broken
which spine part is she using most7.
monitor taser marks:
is she taser trained.
8.
study her feet.
It is most pherepheral, hence least attended to.
Her feet show her class in society9.
observe her flexibility
observe her
her public work teaches a lot.10.
you can also study him.
But let keep it on her.
Understanding them makes one appreciate her work even more.So if I summarize and further comment Steven’s comments on my message, it goes as follows:
-if somebody wants seriously look for verbal, textual sources to ponder over about this kind of questions about lower or larger/higher self, why not start to read The Urantia Book, it’s just suitable for such a purpose
-my comment on tantra had to do with some ideas which Michael Winn has few times very clearly expressed. It’s clear that tantrics have used sexual fantasy, but it’s for very practical purposes. There are two stages in tantric meditation in highest level (well at least it is so in Gelug version which I myself regard being the best).
-I just quickly leafed through David Gordon White’s book ‘Sinister Yogis’ few hours ago in the book shop. It’s good history, but I wouldn’t buy it. There are also some other books from which you can learn about Natha’s etc. Anyway I think that they have been bit similar ‘wild boys’ type of dudes like those men drawn and painted by Touko (Tom of Finland).
-Tom of Finland has actually one of the main creators of certain type of macho homo ideology. His type of ideal men are hedonist bullies, gangbangers, rapists etc.
-buddhist central figure, Heruka, in deity yoga is complicated mixture of good and bad qualities. It’s hermeneutical question in buddhist studies what is meant when you are instructed to do bad things in buddhist tantras, like steal, lie, kill, have sex with yout mother and so on.
Sorry for my broken English. This I really had to write in hurry.
C Howdy
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