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February 5, 2010 at 4:33 pm #33069wendyParticipant
I feel awkward with your ‘list’, to me it feels no different than a check list at an ancient market place for slaves where the goods were checked…
February 8, 2010 at 9:26 am #33071Michael WinnKeymasterWendy,
I think you said it ALL, nicely, like the kind woman you are.Ultimately I totally agree, it is about unfolding one’s own virtue, one Tao-given spiritual mission.
Some people are born to do sexual energy work, and their paths may differ widely. Some will become sex-workers, others alchemists like myself. Those masturbating while looking at photos or videos are probably in transition, but doing some kind of intermediate sexual transformation. Getting stuck at that transitional level is ultimately de-volving rather than spirtually uplifting. Real life relationships are the key, as you emphasize.
thanks
michaelFebruary 8, 2010 at 9:40 am #33073Michael WinnKeymasterHowdy,
Thanks for posting, you bring another interesting perspective.btw, I do not dislike Buddhists, I just dislike their ideas, those who focus on suffering as the main point in life, or deny the self-essence that we each have a divine responsibility to evolve.
The Buddha-people themselves I love! Buddha himself was a lovely being – too bad, like Jesus, his teachings got hijacked into a male uptight religion that is afraid of embodiment.
And I know that most of them don’t really believe the anti-body and anti-self stuff that is dogma in their religion…they just want change.
And I like the Tibetan tantrics.yab-yum I would consider esoteric erotica, it is designed to stimulate AND CONCENTRATE one sexual energy in order to transform it.
Love to hear more from you. You might like Swami Rudi’s books,read Spiritual Cannibalism, he was into making love with any and all astral beings that would show up,as well as with both male and female students. But all this seems to have accelerated his death in a small plane crash in 1973…..he was trying to fly high,but did not quite have the proper spiritual tech?
michael
February 12, 2010 at 3:59 am #33075c_howdyParticipantIch bin verdammt weil ich Gott nicht dienen wollte.
-ANNELIESE MICHEL (from her exorcism tapes)I have to remember this Swami Rudrananda though I think I prefer to read in the moment books written scholars like David Gordon White, Saiyd Athat Abbas Rizvi, Ronald Davidson, John Myrdhin Reynolds etc.
I am personally in situation where I could actually make East Asian (also South Asian, Buddhist and so on) Studies in university in the faculty of humanities, but have decided not to do so because I have started turn my back to so called soft sciences. I’m not jealous to Steven, Stalker or Swedich Dragon for their chosen direction ’cause also my major would be interesting though I think science, mathematics and engineering are much more interesting already to start with. Anyway I not too old at all (I think that Swedich Dragon has told that he began with mathematics in the university when he was already 26 and before that he had considered studying psychology because he was interested about Carl Gustav Jung).
Original start for this thread was porn, but I would like still to comment bit further in my direction.
I quickly read Albert Rudolph’s (Swami Rudi) biography from wikipedia and I think he embodies all symptoms where one starts to go astray.
Rudra as well as Bhairava are ‘wrathfull deities.’ Them being terrible means that they can harm you. Iconography is only iconography but that belonging to this kind of devas says it all.
Original extremist sects in India demanded already in the beginning from you everything. So to become Kapalika monk (Blood In Blood Out) one had to murder. Later times just any sadhu wouldn’t have been able to do this so easily but only under more severe punishment than ‘only’ being thrown away from one’s Varna (caste).
Those practitioner who serve or actually embody/incarnate any of these ‘terrible devas’ are not this kind of spiritual teachers we like. Their profession could be for example pimp or just anykind of gangster. Also cult leader like Shoko Asahara is really Rudra (not Shiva). One danger is start to mix bit everything like his Aum-ganggang.
Nicest version which I know from Rudra myths is from John Myrdhin Reynold’s ‘Self-Liberation through Seeing with Naked Awareness.’ In this Nyingma version being spontaneous means for Rudra to act whole RICO act, I mean to behave in such away what we normally associate as being in the mafiya domain. Rudra has his enforcerers and whores and he is only stopped when Vajrapani confronts him and this culminates in such a situation that Rudra is sodomimized (maybe refering to same thing when during Valpurgisnacht Satan must kissed on his butts) by Vajrapani.
Here it’s also easy to get within Chinese civilization.
I mean this ‘White Tigress’ practice. There seem to be people with full intent to concentrate to sexual paractice (with multiple partners). If you want to make money, it’s sure possible with persons who are prepared to go extremes with nude modelling, making also maybe something really hardcore. There is no need for those who are at control to do all dirty work, but to find and maybe educate if necessary those who are at the bottom.
Some practices quite essential to Healing Tao are traditionally very much associated with Damo (Bodhidharma). And he is also central altar figure at least in some traditional Chinese triad society (one rank is called grassandal etc.).
C Howdy
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