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November 13, 2007 at 1:44 pm #25848DogParticipant
I have resently been mixing Sheng Zhen Wuji Yuan Gong, Kuan Yin standing form, with Gods Playing In The Coldren. Also in the cold times sitting smiling meditation before kan & li. After stabalizing the kan & li with resolving resitances in the jing shen to the process, I have found doing a kan & li super charged micro cosmic orbit to be very powerfull in creating harmony, and groundedness. After all that I will usualy collect and crysilize the true yin true yang into a golden ball and smile from there, relaxed and just smiling, sometime sending it some where, other times letting go where needed.
In one of my sessions I was looking at my self in the future and saw this image below running up and down my center. Of course I did not know what to make of it till I saw this picture online. When I was lookng at my future self it had colors blue, red, and yellow.
November 14, 2007 at 1:14 pm #25849DogParticipantI was looking at my furute self durring my kan & LI pratice. I smiled and saw my self happy full of energy. I started to feel what my future self was feeling I felt the sift or download first to my tan tien then to my entire body. My future self and me became one I felt revitalized and balanced.
November 14, 2007 at 1:33 pm #25851jsunParticipantNovember 14, 2007 at 5:07 pm #25853StevenModeratorSo how do you see your future self differing
from your present self? And furthermore,
why does it differ? If you can feel your
way around these questions, further
breakthroughs may be possible.Smiles to you,
StevenNovember 14, 2007 at 6:51 pm #25855DogParticipantI just smiled with the intention of seeing my self joy full in the future. I could have choosen some thing else. Some potentials resonate stronger then others. There are infinite potentials but no one knows to my knowledge what will be choosen. I just started to resonated with that potential. Potential maybe a better word then future self as that implys singular. As for before and after, I just felt more flow and less resistance, balanced, and grounded, big shifts in a short amount of time.
If you would like to enlighten me more to something you feel I might be missing feel free.
November 14, 2007 at 9:35 pm #25857StevenModeratorWhat I was getting was that:
As soon as you separate your future self
as something different than your present self, then describing
your future self as being happy it implies that your present self
is not as happy (i.e. Tao Te Ching philosophy–you see something
as beautiful, because there is ugliness). The question would
then arise, why are you not as happy now, and how could you
align yourself sooner.If there, in fact, is no difference, then calling the two by
different names is not necessary–there is just “self”. Then
this realization itself can effect a change.It is slightly unclear which situation you are in, i.e.
difference vs. no difference.Your statement “implying singular” seems to suggest the
view of “no difference”, but your next statement
about noticing more flow and less resistance suggests
the view of “difference”.So I guess I was suggesting that playing with these
ideas could be profitable and fun.Smiles,
StevenNovember 15, 2007 at 12:20 pm #25859DogParticipant“As soon as you separate your future self
as something different than your present self, then describing
your future self as being happy it implies that your present self
is not as happy (i.e. Tao Te Ching philosophy–you see something
as beautiful, because there is ugliness). The question would
then arise, why are you not as happy now, and how could you
align yourself sooner. ”Thank you for your concern. I do not see different as seperate, like different currents in the same ocean or infinite different harmonics on the same string. I was in a very good mood but after the experience I relized a greater level of openess and vitality. Informed by the wisdom/relizatoins of the past I smiled and tride to open as much as I could to the infinite potentials of the future from the present and in the pressent birthed something new.
“Tao Te Ching philosophy–you see something
as beautiful, because there is ugliness”Its ok to see something as beautiful or ugly, this changes, after a while there is less judgement and a more skillfull dialect or comunication with the life force. For me its just working on a realtionship with the life force, so to judge its communications instead of listening deeply to them has limmited me in the past.
“If there, in fact, is no difference, then calling the two by
different names is not necessary–there is just “self”. Then
this realization itself can effect a change.”Multitude helps us better see relationships, understand them, to learn natural processess, and be wiser creative beings. Allot of people are under the illusion that there is seperateness a battle and not a dance, but this is often the starting point. Hatsumi after years of refining his martial art and internal practice came to the relization that it was a dance, but to my understanding relizations come after the openign up to them has occurred.
“Your statement “implying singular” seems to suggest the
view of “no difference”, but your next statement
about noticing more flow and less resistance suggests
the view of “difference”.”I like to use the word potential now, becuase I was worried that future self implied only one potenial, vs infinite.
My new self seems to like to write. How about that. 🙂
I would check in to the fact you use your mind allot in your job, so often it is natural to make it the problem and solution, as in a relization can change things vs acceptance reducing controll, creating healthy boundries, and opens one self to relizations being birthed. I hope you do not take ofence, if this does not make since it just my opinion/observation.
🙂
JulianNovember 15, 2007 at 3:12 pm #25861StevenModeratorNah, I don’t take offense at anything you say . . .
As for a problem-solution model, while this is useful for
scientific and technical stuff, it does an extremely POOR job
with internal development.What I learned on this issue is that if you have a problem
with an immediate solution, then there you go; if you have a
problem with no obvious solution, then the problem is in fact
*imaginary* and not real!!In this latter case, which is the *usual case* for internal work,
what I’ve found to be successful is to bring the issue into
a state of non-judgemental awareness, surround it with the
knowledge that it is an imaginary problem, open up my heart
and bring in a feeling of self-acceptance through the Inner Smile,
or through other qigong/meditation, and then watch it blissfully
disengage itself from my being.In my responses to you, I was mainly talking about awareness,
not judgement–and was just providing another point of view
to play with. It never hurts to have another point of view, right?Smiles,
StevenNovember 15, 2007 at 4:28 pm #25863DogParticipantIf by “imagenary” you mean it changes, as in created by a creative being and destroyed by a creative being then yes “imagenary”. But you might want to find a better descript then imagenary as imagenary seems to not fit and can be judgemental. As in the case of a musician sustaining a note for different periods of time, often disharmony happens when the note is played to long out of harmony with the rest of the muscians. When facing your music (I love that saying “you got to face the music”) for the first time often people say this does not sound good,why does it sound like this, and how can I get it to sound like Michael(someone you admire), I suck, the worst is someone throws there insterment away. Then you search out teachers that refine your understanding show you how to change notes, teach you the names for things, how does the insterment work, you learn to play in time, realy find your own voice, and start to really jam. Yes judegments are limmiting, not a very refined understanding, but hearing a deference in a song is not a judgement. Most likly I just need to be more descriptive in the explaining the changes. Like a musician explaining the magic that is jimi hendrix vs saying its good. Often you do not trully know something til you can teach it. So I am still learning to explain and teach music.
🙂
JulianNovember 15, 2007 at 5:38 pm #25865StevenModeratorHi Julian,
By “imaginary problem” you could equally well replace that
by “negative self-judgement”. . . meaning there is no tangible
issue, it is an internal creation by the ego-mind . . . not a
true reflection of self. Upon identification, that such
a negative self-judgement is present, it can be released by
opening the heart and invoking a state of self-acceptance.Now you could argue that by classifying it as a “negative
self-judgement” that you are in fact making a judgement (!) , but
OK fine. What difference does that make? Not all judgements
are bad. We constantly make judgements about the world
in which we interact to learn and grow.
We shouldn’t judge judgements 🙂OK, that last bit I was just being silly for the sake of fun. 🙂
I agree with your music description. Truth is really
a harmony of many different qualities that are all
present simultaneously, and this is really what is
meant by the comment “facing the music”.Your last comment about “not truly understanding something
until you can teach it” is extremely true. I live this
daily as part of my job.Enjoying the music that constitutes this conversation . . .
Smiling to you,
StevenNovember 16, 2007 at 11:23 am #25867DogParticipantLet me try the straight talk approach. We both have a common teacher in Michael. I believe we have the common language of calling calling cronic chi patterns or stagnet chi as emotions and flowing chi feelings. This cronic pattern is still chi and real so I I was confused by the imagenary. Art is reflective of the artist and there state of chi, not there potenial which is infinite. All things do arise from a ground of acceptance and infinite potential. This allows for big imagenations and amazing creativity, also big “mistakes”. I think I understand what you mean by imagenary as in the situation and the kid they where when they created the chi pattern has long gone yet they never stopped the pattern. Thats the best I came up with. This is different then my first understand which was you where saying the chi pattern was imagenary. I find most of this thing we talk about would require an hour long talk on cosmology, we would end up finding we where talking mainly about the same thing just different words, so words like imagenary often do not do the situation justice in describing what is going on, such as evil, or sin, or self judgement, these words that I find coming out of traditions that have lost any sophisticated understanding of energy body and creative processes. So when you say imagenary, which tends to be emotionaly charged, as in people searching for truth find imagenary to be negative, but to me we all share a common dream, and have yet learned to realy play with our potential.
mucho chio
JulianNovember 16, 2007 at 8:00 pm #25869StevenModeratorNovember 16, 2007 at 11:31 pm #25871DogParticipant -
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