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kidney cells as batteries

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  • This topic has 6 replies, 4 voices, and was last updated 17 years, 4 months ago by Swedich Dragon.
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  • December 12, 2007 at 3:02 pm #26621
    Christopher
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    fascinating what the ancient had figured out….

    http://technology.newscientist.com/article/dn13026-invention-g

    Kidney cell battery

    One of the potentially useful things that a living cell can do is pump ions across its membrane. Simon Levinson, a biophysicist at the University of Colorado Medical School in Denver, US, says this generates a potential difference and so could be exploited to make a biobattery.

    Levinson believes that kidney cells, which are particularly good at transporting ions, could be well suited to making a miniature battery. This would be formed by stacking up large numbers of cell layers to boost the voltage and current they can produce.

    He suggests that such biobatteries might be ideal for powering devices inserted in the body, such as insulin pumps or pacemakers.

    The cell culture could then draw oxygen and nutrients from the host’s bloodstream. And, if the monolayers are made from immortalised cell lines, the biobattery should live as long as the host.

    December 13, 2007 at 4:34 pm #26622
    Michael Winn
    Keymaster

    very interesting – thanks. I suspect that proper breathing (lungs feed kidneys in chinese creation cycle) generates more ions – which would intensify the kidney charge. and I believe that most cellular ions are metallic in nature.
    m

    December 14, 2007 at 7:51 pm #26624
    Swedich Dragon
    Participant

    Lungs feeds kidneys. suspected Kidney yang weakness and cold problem.

    Maybe this is the reasons why I got warmer during wery slow deep breathing during focusing on the origingal cavity. Or otherwaise there are some blockages loosing up.

    S D

    December 22, 2007 at 6:02 pm #26626
    johnson
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    Breathing very slowly naturally induces extra body heat, but I don’t know exactly why. It works particularly well if you breath out absolutely all the air that you can, before you inhale, in my experience.

    December 23, 2007 at 6:48 am #26628
    Swedich Dragon
    Participant

    Hello Johnson

    Yes I experience the same thing when emptying the lungs completely. It should be interesting to know why.

    S D

    December 31, 2007 at 9:11 am #26630
    Michael Winn
    Keymaster

    Total exhale makes the lungs work harder to get chi, so they begin to convert internal chi entering from ming-men into kidney yarg to supply what oxygen normally does. I go into this relationship deeply in Qigong Fundamentals 3/4, difference between internal and external breathing.
    michael

    January 1, 2008 at 11:19 am #26632
    Swedich Dragon
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    “””Total exhale makes the lungs work harder to get chi, so they begin to convert internal chi entering from ming-men into kidney yarg to supply what oxygen normally does”””

    Does this decrease the Qi in the kidneys?

    S D

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