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August 15, 2006 at 10:39 am #16344baguaParticipant
Ok, this helps me understand alot about your training.
thanks,
bagua
August 16, 2006 at 9:16 pm #16346jsritParticipantI am also interested in training in Wu Dang. That is a nice screename, fore sure. How did you learnt the Wu Dang meditations you speak of?
I have been researching the best way to go about Wu Dang training.
There seems to be a few avenues:
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Wudantao.com
The Wu DAng in Fort Collins, Co. They have a one Master Bing living there now to help out training. I am supposed to call and talk to the Master soon to talk about the training opportunities.
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The Wu Dang Kung Fu Acadamy in China
This appears to be slightly more expensive than choice 3.
3. Master Yuan
see the link below, also check out his friends on that website…a few Wu Dang Teachers are in America like some dud ein Florida, Yuanming Zhang, Xongxian Wu…Check this out, the teacher from number 3. (somehow connected with 2, I am confused on that.)
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=54948081&MyToken=d6bf9aed-6f1c-401b-b45a-4a003fe57ea7Keep us posted, I’ll keep you posted too. Contact me on AIM if you want, screename white111cloud.
Peace out,
JakeAugust 16, 2006 at 11:39 pm #16348WudangAlienAlchemistParticipantwhy don’t you put a hyperlink to Yuan’s website. There is alot of stuff in your post all run together. The Wudang meditation was actually the microcosmic orbit method that Michael teaches.
August 17, 2006 at 9:26 am #16350wendyParticipantThank you for your reply and don’t bother the insane sounding reasons, I have a couple of my own, nevertheless you seem to handle them without shame… it triggered
August 17, 2006 at 3:30 pm #16352jsritParticipantAugust 18, 2006 at 11:32 am #16354WudangAlienAlchemistParticipantThanks for this site. I did not have it. Has anyone we know on this site or otherwise been there. Does anyone know its connection to the Wudang Taoist Kung Fu Academy. Fajin, I think these questions are mostly for you. Also does anyone know how close these schools are to each other? Also Fajin, do they fully teach the martial application at the town school?
Also Jsrit, here is a link for the Norhern Shoalin.
August 18, 2006 at 10:08 pm #16356FajinParticipantHi WudangAlienAlchemist,
I have not been one of Xiu Gang Yuan’s students so don’t know too much. He is a very good teacher though, from what I’ve heard. Most of the stuff is on his website, including location on Wudang, just read it all over.
I don’t know what you mean by martial application. If you mean how each movement applies to an actual combat situation, then yes. Every complete martial arts style incorporates martial applications.
Smiles,
FajinAugust 19, 2006 at 2:40 pm #16358WudangAlienAlchemistParticipantYes Fajin, while it is true that every martial style has complete combat training, I have run into quite a few teachers of so called kung fu and taiji that do not teach the martial application. I have even been told by several taichi teachers that the art never had combat applications. Some believe teaching the internal arts for fighting/self-defense as well as health is pointless. I disagree I think both sides are very important. That is why I asked a stupid question.
I am curious Fajin, what was your experience before Wudang and how much time have you spent at Wudang? Forgive me if you stated this in a previous posting that I am not seeing now.August 19, 2006 at 5:20 pm #16360FajinParticipantHi WudangAlienAlchemist,
>>That is why I asked a stupid question.<>I am curious Fajin, what was your experience before Wudang and how much time have you spent at Wudang?<<
*I had a private teacher who taught me Tibetan Lion's Roar kungfu and many Shaolin internal methods like Iron Thread, lightness gong (Tibetan version), etc., since I was about 8 or so. I later tried Erle Montaigue's Old Yang Style Taiji and went into qigong for about a year or two. That's what really got me into Taiji and I went to Wudang, because it's the origin, for almost 5 years learning just Sanfeng Taiji.
When I got back, I really got into Daoism and nei dan practices and looked to Mantak Chia and eventually Healing Dao. Now I went back to Wudang to learn inner alchemy from there and to learn more styles. Don't know how long I'll still be there for, maybe until I finish the alchemy there, so still some years. Then I'll come back to Canada and decide what to do then. I'm still in my 20's and have a long journey to go!
Guess that sums up the story,
JinAugust 20, 2006 at 11:10 pm #16362WudangAlienAlchemistParticipantSo you studied lightness gong. Would you care to share your training experience in this art? There does not seem to be much data out there.
August 21, 2006 at 5:56 pm #16364FajinParticipantHi WudangAlienAlchemist,
I will share. I don’t really want to explain all so here’s something I took from a while back.
“When I was younger, my Tibetan lions roar kung fu teacher taught me lung-gom-pa. I had to sit in padmasana, inhale “IN A RELEAXED METHOD,” hold breath in lower dantian and jump, and keep repeating this process. This is a dangerous method and another student ending up damaging his kidneys because of this practice. I didn’t. Better to go with skin breathing which is an extension of the lungs.
I practiced this for half a year before going to Wudangshan and learning from the Sanfeng sect taijiquan and taking the daoist path. I ended up lightening my body through lung-gom-pa and and I was able to jump 2.5 metres high! My lions roar teacher said that Tibetan lung-gom-pa’s train this in a pitch dark room for 3 years 3 months non-stop (just to eat) and after their body’s are so light that they are able to run at incredibly fast speeds and jump extremely high.”
Tibetans inherited pranayama methods from India and this breathing more resembles the plavini pranayama.
It is very dangerous and should be done under a master’s supervision, you can get serious deviations that COULD take years to fix. Anyway, qi must be circulating well and the central channel must be open before doing this and only breathe without directing qi anywhere until you start feeling qi in the dantian be itself. It is your center of gravity.
The Shaolin methods are less internal based and are about walking on sandpaper, rope climbing, jumping in and out a pit, running with sandbags tied to you, etc. They utilize middle dantian too, so as to improve endurance. One internal method consists of inhaling upwards to middle dantian hold then jump out of the pit, then exhale (or was it inhale) to lower dantian then jump down. Or when running up a hill focus on middle dantian and wen running down, focus on lower dantian.
If you want to embark on this training by yourself, I strongly recommend you don’t direct qi anywhere, just keep it natural and do the stuff, you’ll feel qi without even directing it after a while. It’s like Zen, just meditate and don’t try to manipulate sensations or qi.
Regards,
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