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Lesser Kan & Li workshop and sexuality question for Michael

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  • February 23, 2013 at 1:54 pm #40341
    pkyoungson
    Participant

    First of all, thanks to you Steve for your kind post to my problem with being deleted.

    Last July I went to the Lesser Kan & Li workshop. Michael mentioned that it could lower sexual energy for awhile. Previous to the workshop I was experiencing the valley orgasm with the microcosmic orbit and not infrequently, just during the day for long periods. Since the workshop I have been doing the “God’s Play in the Cauldron of Original Chi” daily. Also since the workshop, no valley orgasm.

    Is this what one would expect from the Kan & Li? Or is it a coincidence and an example of it being ill advised to cling to phenomena? What can I expect. Is it coming back?

    February 23, 2013 at 5:31 pm #40342
    qtface
    Participant

    Below is my somewhat clumsy response to your original question I posted in January. Both our entries were deleted shortly after I replied.

    From: qtface
    Subject: General
    Date/Time 2013-01-22 20:00:19
    Remote IP: 174.17.183.28

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    This is Linda. I sat to the right of you in the Lesser Kan & Li workshop last summer. Michael did say this could happen. I have a similar experience with a change in my sexual energy. I first learned the practice from Michael’s home study course April 2009. I experienced something similar then & worked it thru somewhat. The change in sexual desire is much more pronounced this time.
    I find that my reason/drive for sex is entirely different & am working with those changes while learning a great deal about myself, my motives & sexual desire in general. Apparently my supposed sexual desire was really a cover for feeling incomplete inside as if half of myself was looking for my other half. This is a surprise to me. If you had told me this was my motive for sex before Kan & Li, I would have said you are wrong. Now I no longer feel half/I feel whole. My relationship to sex is completely different. It’s no longer about completing myself thru sexual union, it’s about pleasure & expression of love. I am surprised to find that I had felt so incomplete, pleased to find how whole I feel. My husband is changing in response to my new inner self & together we are recreating our sex life. At first he asked “what’s wrong, what’s wrong?” but nothing is wrong it’s just entirely different. I’ve found that part of the cure is more Kan & Li practice plus intense 5 healing animals & fusion practice. Do you do sitting lesser Kan & Li also?
    I’m not the same person, I’m getting to know myself all over again. A daunting task but seems well worth the effort.

    February 24, 2013 at 12:55 pm #40344
    Steven
    Moderator

    It’s great to see both you and Linda posting your
    questions/responses again after the snafu earlier
    surrounding the server malfunction/reset.

    The thing about blissful phenomena from doing practices
    that I’ve found is: once you start to expect or
    anticipate a certain response, then it changes.
    Once you start looking for a particular experience,
    then it changes.

    So everything that Linda already said in her post
    could very well be true. Lesser Kan & Li does alter
    your internal sexual landscape, and there is a transition
    period where your sexual drive may feel muted in comparison
    to how it was before (until your body gets used to the
    new architecture) . . . OR it could also be a simple
    coincidence as you mention, i.e. the pattern of particular
    responses having a tendency to change. For that
    matter, there could be a little of both.

    In any case, if you keep practicing, I’m sure it will
    come back. It just might not be while doing the microcosmic
    orbit. It might be in a completely different setting,
    and it might be when you least expect it.

    Personally, I think you probably just sent in
    your valley orgasm for an upgrade. Be prepared
    for version 2.0 when it comes back. 😉

    Smiles and qi,
    Steven

    April 1, 2013 at 8:24 am #40346
    Michael Winn
    Keymaster

    Linda,
    Thanks for sharing this. This mirrors my own experience. Instead of being driven by unconscious desires,which is actually a form of “internal reactivity”, I am relaxed and responding to what actually gives lasting pleasure to my soul. It takes a while to adjust to sex not being a permanent “itch”, but the range of freedom in loving is the reward.

    Practicing more of the Lesser and getting into the Greater/Sun-moon practice helps to ground this new self. Alchemy is about rebirth.

    blessings,
    michael

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