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Yeah, I mean, the guy is definitely devoted to the dharma, you have to give him that.
: ). And I’d get my pals to give me glowing reviews too. “The most stupendous book ever written. I fainted through sheer joy.”You’ve been a naughty buddhist eh? A new buddhist school should be started I think, based on the union of emptiness and naughtyness, zen in the art of being naughty.
Simon
I find Steiner very interesting, a cut above the rest.
There are some great new teachers. This is a good place here.
I also think the primal shamanistic emphasis is important. I like to ask: ‘Which came first, the guru or the student?’ The origin has to be in the deep dreaming mind, poetically giving birth to situations of spiritual tuition.Great question you let me know if I get the “right” answer. 🙂
The Guru status is given by the student this is the root of all symbols of authority. This is often a relationship between an american and an Indian. As I stated in the general forum a parasitic relationship is a key part of our evolution. Creating that big daddy or the hierarchy because we feel it is needed to bring order or connection to the divine. Alot of the founders that created alot of those channels for personal growth got there groups over run by greedy individuals. All that happens is usually a miss interpratation of symbols. This is not to say this happened to Stieners stuff. But most Fraternal orders definitly sufferd. The rose groups, the pira(order of the flame) that became pirates(this is the group that is involved in yale) so on and so on.I don’t know what the current Steiner scene is like, only that the Waldorf schools are still going strong (and I don’t know much about those). I just know that I like Steiner’s books, though some of it’s pretty cryptic, occult even. : )
Steiner has a lot of interesting stuff, but his spiritual histories of esoteric movements have a huge blank gap over all things chinese. it was as if he could only channel westernal archetypal information. Almost like there were racial or spiritual boundaries in the etheric planes.
mohh I think you will do fine in interpretating occult or other readings mainly becuase you do internal work. I was just saying that alot of those groups got over run, but Steiner seem to have made it out ok. Those groups where just ripe for the picking mainly because they where open channels of influence. I went to a waldorf school but was kicked out.:) I think Steiner knew that one of the problems of today is that there is no separation from Companys, State, and religion.. You could classify this as Fascism. He also talked alot about organic farming his form of farm called Bio-dynamic farming is very popular in my family, my grandma comes from a german farming family.
Chi, I am out
Dog
Steiner (I recently read in a Wikipedia thing) was really stung by early Nazism. Steiner died in ’25 but warned that if the Nazis were to come fully to power it would mean dire consequences for Europe. A lot more prescient than many powerful intellectuals of the day…
That’s true. Stuck in his own ancestral stream perhaps. Also, he wanted to revive and renovate christianity; that’s one of the main reasons he split with theosophy–he didn’t like their mostly eastern focus. I’m not sure myself of his big emphasis on Christ’s role in history, but do sympathasize with the desire to rescue the western tradition from the hundreds of years of the inquisition.
Simon
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