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Mantak Chia confirms more than three tan tiens . The three stones are topped by a fourth in time .

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  • May 3, 2007 at 1:49 pm #22114
    Aunt Clair
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    There are three primary tan tiens also called stones which have been historically known as energy storage centres. European Medieval Alchemisys called these the Moon , Sun and Earth .Chinese Taoist Alchemists distinguished the type of energy in each cauldron as Shen , Chi, and Ching respectively .

    http://ca.msnusers.com/AlchemicalFlame/shoebox.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=33
    All are born with three tan tiens ;the female blue moon, the neutral pale yellow sun, and the male salmon red Earth .

    http://ca.msnusers.com/_Secure/0SABoDxcWbzNJfutWh5rtx!82N8VUY!zGDmJnSskjy!5y4Vx66V1ajCyomErL6nlA9uslodWcrXqRIi3CayJgAThGb2Vm*qXcktxLCLFuIwDMX7Rx3HBoDw/lotus3.gif
    The silver flame was known to ancient mystics in Sanskrit as anju or anja .This begins to spin and be seen clairvoyantly on our hearts .Then a golden mantle appears on the shoulder to demonstrate our emergent energy body is perfected and ready to begin its long journey .

    These tan tiens are storage centres of energy allowing the body to develop more and to raise energy to feed the subsequent flames of kundalini .When the sun is fully active it becomes male and this causes a profound imbalance of red earth and yellow fire being 2 male and blue water being 1 female . The female air tan tien is obviously missing .

    But there are many more than 3 tan tiens . The energy body has infinite potential as it becomes full of light , than the centres begin to manifest .They exist already and lay waiting , ready to bloom .

    The platinum blue female tan tien is capped by the Crown of the Goddess . Above this is the Alpha aperture ready to fill the cauldron of energy flowing over and through the blue indigo and violet chakras.

    .The pale yellow dan tien is the sun . The energy heart is the pump of the energy body .This cauldron surrounds and flows over and through the yellow and green chakras .

    The salmon red male tan tien is capped by the Throne of God . Beneath it is the Omega Aperture ready to fill the cauldron of energy flowing over and through the orange and red chakras .

    The chartreuse green female tan tien will manifest on the violet chakra when the newly emergent white chakra manifest and is fully imbibed.

    My peers and I began to clairvoyantly see this chartreuse green tan tien on ourselves and others . We found it connected us to the united guardian angel and higher self , that it is air energy and that it increased connectivity to immortal realms ,heaven and Godhead. It is a supernal energy centre associated with Kether.

    But we could not find confirmation of more than 3 tan tiens in any esoteric literature . So I was very pleased to get this reply from Mantak Chia ;

    From : Mantak Chia
    Sent : Tuesday, 24 April 2007 4:01:04 AM
    To : catherinelcurran@hotmail.com
    Subject : RE: More than three tan tiens

    [b]Dear Catherine Curran
    We have many Tan Tien. The one that is above the crown we use in the practice in the Greatest Kan & li the inner alchemist. And in the Greatest Kan Li we create the big one in the space for the alchemy of the heaven and earth…
    MC[/b]

    What was frustrating to me was that there was not any evidence in the esoteric writings of the past nor in the contemporary metaphysical books to confirm our sighting of more than three tan tiens . We began to see the fourth tan tien in 2005 .

    Mantak Chia is a world expert on Taoist Alchemy so his email confirming our readings made me very happy .

    May 4, 2007 at 8:39 am #22115
    Michael Winn
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    Catherine,
    thanks for your post. I invite you to share your explorations further.

    For myself, I found it necessary to not mix the hindu term Chakra (“wheel”)
    and chinese Dantian/TanTien which means “Field of the “Elixir”. They refer in each culture to different energetic patterns.

    The classical description of three dantian and seven chakras is not, in my opinion, meant to limit the “number” of anything. They rather reflect different stages of manifestation of the Life Force. There are systems of 8 and 11 chakras.

    The higher the number, the more complex and closer to manifestation. The lower the number, the closer to Unity/Source. It is just a continuum we are all exploring and playing in. To the Taoists, Number was a Quality, not a Quantity.

    It is also interesting to play with the “angle of perception”. If you start with 3 dantian, and you suddenly see a larger sphere/space surrounding thoe three or perhaps being born from within them, you could count that as Four. Or you could speculate that the fourth is our view of another dimension, and it is actually One, holding the space of the three dantian in this physical dimension.

    and so on. Hope this adds to your playing with your inner vision.

    michael

    May 8, 2007 at 5:41 am #22117
    Aunt Clair
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    Michael Winn ,
    Thank you for your reply.

    I agree that the chakra is a different energy centre than a tan tien .

    I see the chakras as spheroid energy centres present on all human being in a spinal chakral column . As Robert Bruce has written , there are numerous minor chakras evident on each joint even in the smallest phalanges .

    The function of these chakras is as the main conduit of energy on the human energy body . There are 8 chakras manifest on many sitters today . Before 1980, this number was usually 7 . In previous centuries there were less and this might be evidenced in historic images with 5 chakras . Imo there are 7 to 10 chakras on the spine of most sitters and 0 to 4 chakras above and below the spine .

    I believe that tan tiens aka stones are energy storage centres which store excess energy around groups of chakras . Typically a pair of chakras will be stacked and nested within one tan tien on the spine . The tan tiens are distinct from the chakras in their size and in their ability to store and deliver stored energy to the human energy body .Tan Tiens allow the magician to alter the polarity and elemental nature of their energy body to attain other dimensions . Tan tiens facilitate the build up of energy required to cause kundalini to flow . When the tan tiens become engorged with light , it becomes difficult but not always impossible to perceive the chakras nested within them . So the tan tiens are distinct from chakras in their size, nature, function and positions .

    I want to thank you for your reply and your perspective most of which I agree with but respectfully I disagree that “the lower the number the closer to the source” .

    I have been offering free clairvoyant energy body readings on a variety of sitters globally . It is apparent that the number and size of energy centres manifested in a sitter’s energy body is directly proportional to the expansion of their consciousness and their attainment of metaphysical abilities .

    Imho those with lower number of manifested energy centres indicate a lower consciousness . Those with larger tan tiens have moved further along the predictable continuum of human energy body development than those with smaller tan tiens .They will have developed more metaphysical skills and they are capable of attaining more realms. The number and size of tan tiens is an indication of practice , experience and integration .

    There is not one tan tien evident on the unaware humans . There are humans who do not have dream recall and who do not demonstrate any metaphysical abilities . These have smaller and fewer chakras and the tan tiens are not evident , yet .

    But even a young child may have tan tiens evident if they have carried forward some of the work from previous incarnations and if they enjoy the higher energy body vessels afforded by each subsequent generation .

    There are children born each generation of humanity at a higher vibration than the average before it . Certainly avatars have been the exception to the average but humanity continues to slowly evolve .

    And while it is true that the angle of perception must to be taken into account , it is possible to look at the size of the tan tiens and their location and number and still determine where on the continuum of human energy body development that sitter has come to so far .

    I am confident that all humans can develop any of the metaphysical skills with dedication and practice . Imho all humans can develop through service to the world ,energy body exercises , meditation , projection , healing self and others , and dreamstate lessons etc.

    http://forums.astraldynamics.com/viewtopic.php?p=59738#59738

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