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  • This topic has 6 replies, 3 voices, and was last updated 11 years, 7 months ago by nomad.
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  • July 9, 2013 at 5:31 am #40960
    nomad
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    i don’t know if this has anything to do with ‘healing love’ but i picked this practice up from the internet some time ago, did it for a while, and am thinking of practicing it again

    it is basically just self-pleasure and masturbation with one hand while the other rubs the 2nd chakra in the lower dantian in a clockwise motion…

    does this have anything to do with ‘healing love’?

    are there any dangers of practicing this?

    i’ve read recently that in true sexual meditation, one does not focus on erotic thoughts… is this true?

    thanks

    July 10, 2013 at 1:35 am #40961
    nomad
    Participant

    of course you don’t do it to the point of ejaculation, forgot to mention that…

    July 23, 2013 at 4:35 am #40963
    c_howdy
    Participant

    1. BE CAREFUL ABOUT WHAT YOU USE.
    Do not use sharp metal or steel objects, so lay off the pens or other items with small balls or beads. Avoid objects with parts that can snap off. Just remember, unless it is attached to a living, breathing human, nothing long and pointy, please.
    2. DO NOT RUB TOO HARD.
    According to sexologist Dr. Jagdip Shah, when you masturbate and are in heightened sense of arousal, you may not feel that you are actually hurting yourself. Don’t rub too hard on your vagina or clitoris. If it suddenly starts to hurt, stop. Self-stimulation should feel good, not hurtful. If you find blood and it is not your period, see your OB-Gyn.
    4. KEEP IT CLEAN, NEAT, AND TRIMMED.
    No, we’re not talking about the hair down there, we’re talking about your fingernails. If your preferred method of self-exploration is digital stimulation, make sure you wash your hands before touching yourself to avoid infections. You should also keep your nails neatly trimmed so you don’t accidentally cut or scrape yourself with ragged nails or those pesky hangnails.
    -http://www.femalenetwork.com/sex-relationships/sexytime-10-tips-to-safe-self-pleasuring

    In the Abbe Louis Van Haecke, Huysmans thought at first that he had discovered the greatest satanist of his time, the Gilles de Rais of the nineteenth century…and to reports that the Abbe Boullan was once more indulging in indecent practices, under cover of his considerable reputation as an exorcist. For as his first biographer revealed in 1912, whenever Boullan’s good offices were invoked by Mother Abbesses whose nuns had complained of diabolical visitations, he did not confine himself to exorcizing the unfortunate women, but also ‘taught them how, by means of auto-hypnosis and auto-suggestion, they could dream that they were having intercourse with the saints or with Jesus Christ, and showed them what postures and occult methods they should adopt to enable supernatural entities-and more particularly his own astral body-to visit and possess them…’
    -ROBERT BALDIC, The Life of J.-K. Huysmans

    The Eight Immortals (Chinese: 八仙; pinyin: Bāxiān; Wade–Giles: Pa¹hsien¹) are a group of legendary xian (“immortals; transcendents; saints”) in Chinese mythology. Each Immortal’s power can be transferred to a power tool (法器) that can bestow life or destroy evil. Together, these eight tools are called the “Covert Eight Immortals” (暗八仙 àn ~). Most of them are said to have been born in the Tang or Song Dynasty. They are revered by the Taoists and are also a popular element in the secular Chinese culture. They are said to live on a group of five islands in the Bohai Sea, which includes Penglai Mountain-Island.
    -http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eight_Immortals

    I don’t think this subject should make any adult person too embarrassed, but it also doesn’t belong to my favourite topics.

    So whom it really might concern?

    I simply think that certain things can really be also dangerous.

    I for example saw once interview of young finnish male-to-female transsexual who had started to understand how he/she became as he/she was.

    For he/she had been for years autosexually active while imagining that he is actually a she.

    What about Abbe Joseph-Antoine Boullan’s practices?

    Would it be OK if somebody for example, who is doing HT practices, would openly boast that he everyday has wild sex with Laozi but that actually he would like it to happen with Iron-Crutch Li?

    HOWDY

    Ps. Sorry, but I didn’t mean to be anyway blasphemous.

    July 27, 2013 at 10:17 pm #40965
    Steven
    Moderator

    >>>are there any dangers of practicing this?

    You could become conditioned to becoming sexually aroused if
    your abdomen is touched. 😉

    >>>i’ve read recently that in true sexual meditation,
    >>>one does not focus on erotic thoughts… is this true?

    Lots of people have opinions about sex; it doesn’t mean they are right.
    What feels right to you and you enjoy, do.
    What doesn’t, don’t do.
    Whatever feels natural for you, is right for you.
    The rest is just somebody else’s opinion.

    S

    July 27, 2013 at 10:28 pm #40967
    Steven
    Moderator

    >>>I simply think that certain things can really be also dangerous.
    >>>I for example saw once interview of young finnish
    >>>male-to-female transsexual who had started to understand
    >>>how he/she became as he/she was.
    >>>For he/she had been for years autosexually active
    >>>while imagining that he is actually a she.

    I also find it very likely that he already felt like a woman,
    and just couldn’t admit to himself, and only just started
    exploring it sexually. Later, claiming the need for a
    “sex change” as a result, I think is simply an excuse.

    People don’t engage in “fantasies” for no reason.
    There is typically some truth behind the whole thing.

    S

    July 28, 2013 at 2:39 pm #40969
    c_howdy
    Participant

    “It causes us great horror to know that the tenebrous black magicians of the Drukpa clan (those who are dedicated to the fatal and horrible black tantra) ejaculate the seminal liquor during their practices of black magic. These black magicians have a fatal technique that enables them to reabsorb the spilled semen. Such a technique is known as black vajroli. This practice is completely negative; therefore we do not even want to explain the procedure. We know that there exist many people with very weak mentalities, who could easily be led into practicing such horrible black tantra. Karma would then fatally fall upon us. The spilled semen is mixed with feminine “verya” (feminine semen) and afterwards it is re-absorbed. Thus, it is horribly recharged with atoms of the secret enemy. These are satanic atoms that are collected from the atomic infernos of the human being. The inevitable result of this black tantra is the descent of the serpent towards the atomic abyss of Nature. This is how the human personality ends. It is definitely disconnected from its Divine Spirit. The human being is then transformed into a demon. The Arcanum A.Z.F. (Urdhvarata) was practiced within the ashrams of ancient India. At that time, yogis were prepared for sexual magic with the white vajroli. Unfortunately, the brothers and sisters of the temple committed scandalous acts, which discredited sexual magic. The Gurujis then pulled the curtains of esotericism shut, and the Arcanum A.Z.F. was forbidden.”
    -Samael Aun Weor, The Yellow Book

    I have impression that if somebody is seriously doing NEIDAN one should develop special kind of continued sensitivity to discriminate between essential and inessential things.

    Here I again think that Carlos C type of RECAPITULATION can create right kind of inner conditions to be able to do that besides it’s other benefits.

    Anyway to make these sexual practices in the most advanced level one should also try to master VAJROLI MUDRA.

    Wasn’t there in that book by M. Chia and M. Winn that Indian guy who pissed holy fire?

    HOWDY

    October 29, 2013 at 7:10 pm #40971
    nomad
    Participant

    funny how this post got 116 views, more than any other post on this page!

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