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More Historical Evidence that Bodri’s critique of qigong…

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  • May 12, 2005 at 12:28 am #5649
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    …is based on using taoist terms to talk about zen, and may not represent a full understanding of Daoism. There is loads of evidence to support the historical use, and effectiveness of Qi circulation, and qigong techniques for spiritual and health cultivation:

    “The Universal Truth (chapter 1)

    In ancient times, the Yellow Emperor, Huang Di, was known to have been a child prodigy. As he grew he showed himself to be sincere, wise, honest, and compassionate. He became very learned and developed keen powers for observing nature. His people recognized him as a natural leader and chose him to reign as emperor.
    During his reign, Huang Di discoursed on medicine, health, lifestyle, nutrition, and Taoist cosmology with his ministers Qi Bo, Lei Gong, and others. Their first discussion began with Huang Di inquiring, “I’ve heard that in the days of old everyone lived one hundred years without showing the ususal signs of aging. In our time,, however, people age prematurely, living only fifty years. Is this due to a change in our environment, or is it because people have lost the correct way of life?”
    Qi Bo replied, “In the past, people practiced the Tao, the Way of Life. They understood the principle of balance, of yin and yang, as represented by the transformation of the energies of the universe. Thus they formulated practices such as Dao-In, an exercise combining stretching, massaging, and breathing to promote energy flow, and meditation to help maintain and harmonize themselves with the universe.”

    -The Huang Di Neijing Suwen (Yellow Emperors classic of internal medicine)
    written around 3,500 B.C. Translated by Maoshing Ni.

    also:

    “The space betwen Heaven and Earth,
    Is it not like a bellows?
    Though it is empty it does not collapse;
    when put into motion it sends forth all the more.”

    -Tao Te Ching, Lao Tzu, Guodian version (350 B.C.), translated by Robert G. Henricks

    Comment: If the “space” between heaven and earth is empty, what does it send forth when it is put into motion? emptiness?
    Putting something into motion implies that there is something there. Jing, Qi and Shen? the term emptiness, Hsu, or Xu, may have a meaning that is not directly translatable into english from what these texts imply.

    May 12, 2005 at 8:28 am #5650
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    The space between Heaven and Earth – like a bellows.

    A beautiful analogy – one that is meant to be enjoyed not dissected. Not to look too deep into the hole or one comes out the other side missing the treasure. Better rather to sit and enjoy for awhile. Some things just are.

    Thanks for the beautfiul poetry.

    Rainbowbear

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