October 3, 2007 at 9:27 am #24636
… wanting to research this from a taoist or TCM point of view. I remember snowlion had some info for someone once. Also any info or studies in general to link to would be good thanks jOctober 3, 2007 at 4:23 pm #24637
I can share a bit of anecdotal information that I’ve been running across, which might be a bit off the path you intend to tread. It seems that there is a relatively high incidence of MS in channelers. I have come across several ex-channelers in the work that I do (homeopathic-type work) who believe that their MS came from channeling. From what I’ve seen, I agree with them. It appears that the myelin sheath of the nerves gets burned up from the channeling effort. Once burned up in this fashion, the channels open themselves up to a host of problems with their immune systems.
From a wider perspective, it appears that an energetic boundary process – I’m guessing some subtle body system, similar to a force field (maybe some harmonic of wei qi?) – is shut down or overridden (overwritten maybe?) in the channeling process, or possibly an energetic acceleration that the channel’s nervous system cannot handle. Once this boundary layer is disabled or damaged, the immune system’s ability to distinguish friend from foe goes haywire and the body begins attacking itself.
Likely well-known, but just in case: MS is an extremely difficult problem to solve, from a traditional western, Chinese, or complementary/alternative approach. It takes on many shapes and forms and is by no means a homogeneous disease. It’s more of a disease category, rather than a specific disease. For the inflammatory aspects, treatment with the north-pole of a high quality magnet shows some promise.
-MichaelLOctober 3, 2007 at 5:39 pm #24639
Yes I know that MS is a hard nut to crack but I am just after anything anyone has.
I think you (and your patients) are probably correct in your channelling hypothesis. Of your theories I would definitely plump for the second one, the acceleration/nervous system one, although in fact there is no reason why the two theories conflict.
I’m sure that there is a way it could be done safely but I think it is dependant on more training, more calm, more neutrality, more of the stuff you get from practices like those taught here in effect. I believe nervous system damage can also be healed by meditative and magickal approaches indeed I’ve experienced that, but it takes alot of effort. I also like magnets. 🙂 jOctober 3, 2007 at 6:46 pm #24641
if you have a chance to lend a copy of maciocia’s “practice of chinese medicine”, I would go for this book.
there are ten very detailed pages about multiple sclerosis, its
aetiology, pathology (e.g. invasion of external dampness, diet, excessive sexual activity, shock) and its differentiation and treatment (e.g. damp-phlegm with spleen deficiency, liver and kidney deficiency; acupunture, herbal formulars)
shabdOctober 3, 2007 at 7:34 pm #24643October 8, 2007 at 2:57 pm #24645
Just stumbled across this link:
They’re mainly talking about rheumatoid arthritis, but they expand into the auto-immune area, and much of what they’re describing applies to MS.
-mlOctober 8, 2007 at 3:31 pm #24647
You know Dolphin I really had no idea this stuff was out there. I am going to have to pay alot more attention to the latest methodologies in alt. medicine. You said you were involved in that professionally I recall?
Glenn Morris told me once that kinesiology would revolutionize medicine when it was understood, because it would allow patients to give doctors a far more accurate diagnosis by intuition. This is that in action, how amazing! What is even more wonderful for me is that I already had an intuition about the arthritis thing from my mum, who has it, and it is linked in our family to a certain trait running through the generations. (This even links to the serpent conversation actually!)
There are people right now experimenting in magick who would be thrilled at this technique. For example Taylor Ellwood who I’ve mentioned before. He has a book out called ‘Internal Alchemy’ – but this has nothing to do with Taoist version of same. It is a chaos magick methodology involving use of standard magickal techniques to work with the body, for example, treating constituent’s of one’s biology such as enzymes and hormones as beings which can be conversed with, gradually altering the composition of the system. You can hack DNA as well.
This is an incredibly productive way to go, but the genius kicker on that link you’ve posted is the use of the signature as a kinesiological test. Magickally speaking it is operating as a sigil. By having all the signatures available you can allow the intuition to identify the difficulty for you, absolutely brilliant idea!
I will try to spread this around in the magickal community and through my blog actually when I have time. It might make a few waves, I hope so anyhow… your discipline is something I’m beginning to want to study.
How is your dragon bone elixir experiment BTW? 🙂 jOctober 11, 2007 at 10:58 pm #24649
Yes, I’m in the complementary healthcare field. I work with a company called Celletech – celletech.com. We manufacture complementary healthcare products. Conceptually they’re similar to homeopathic remedies, but made using a more contemporary process and frequently using combinations of remedies to achieve the desired effect. Single remedies don’t seem to work anymore.
We use energetic signatures to create our products. The method was discovered by a bunch of Brits in the 1960s: Rae, Tansley, LaMonte, DelaWarre. They were radionics practitioners and were wondering how homeopathic remedies worked. Rae discovered that a homeopathic remedy is an energetic signature. They were able to measure, using radionic techniques, the energetic signature of a remedy and its strength, create the signature, and then recreate the remedy from the signature. The discovery process took several years, but is now a very repeatable process. If you take a look at this link:
You’ll find pictures of energetic signatures of homeopathic remedies. They are deceptively simple, but work like a charm. The picture you see is inserted into a device that looks similar to the one in the bottom picture on that page. We have made hundreds of thousands of remedies using this method with excellent results.
The people in the earlier link are using the same idea of energetic signatures, but applying them in a slightly different fashion, however the foundation is exactly the same: Everything that exists has a unique energetic signature. That signature can be copied and the body will respond to the signature exactly the same way it will respond to the real thing. This really blows my mind, or at least my monkey mind. There are enormous implications to this statement.
BTW, there are also good alternatives to applied kinesiology for listening to binary-type responses (yes/no, good/bad) from the body. The one I kind of like is called VAS – Vascular Autonomic System, discovered by Dr. Paul Nogier. You put a couple of fingers or your thumb on the arterial pulse (this is not like pulse diagnosis in TCM). You get a reading of the ‘norm’ of that person. You then introduce substances or signatures or intent into the person’s energetic field. If the substance is good for them, the pulse gives very strong peaks to the pulse in response. If it’s not good for them, the body gives a mushy pulse response. There’s a description here:
I’ve had to make a secondary batch of the dragon bone remedy. The first one had too much cinnamon in it, energetically making it too hot. I also found some fresh elk antler velvet from a local farm that I’ve added to the recipe. I should be mixing the batch up in a few weeks. Each batch takes 2 months to make.
If you want to see something I just finished, take a look here:
It’s a formula for men (I’ve also made one for women) over 30 and especially over 50. It rebuilds growth hormone levels without forcing the process, a la human growth hormone. It’s very gentle and also very effective.
I’d be happy to continue the discussion of energetic signatures with you. I find it a fascinating subject!
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