January 1, 2008 at 11:50 am #26770
My new practises for the beginning of the year 2008:
Will try a period with retention of 100 days again, but this time without sexual stimulation of any kind. Doing the for me new exercise scrotal compression and the testikle breathing twice on a daily basis. Curious to see if this might increase my energy and take away some of my fatigue problems. Combine this with MC meditation and the meditation on the original cavity with 36 heartbeat long breath.
Also going into the Iron Shirt practise more than before. Always have had problems with this kind of exercises. Will do breathing into the earth while doing standing tree. Want to increase succesively into 100 breaths to see what happens. Had already today some good experiences with 20 breaths for the moment. Was more relaxed in the standing and more relaxed in the mind. Just felt into what happened whith the energy instead of trying to push things.
Continuing with the Yudeloves book 100 days two chapters left. Togheter with my yoga group. Perhaps it will increase with a new member when we start with taoist yoga and sexual energy soon.
When time ower I will try to take up some Hatha yoga with much standing exercises. Better for me than tao yin during the winter beacase I always have problems with getting cold in the winter especially if lying down on the floor.
Have had a breake now in my practises. The reasons was a cold that I haven’t been able to get rid of. Have had it for about three weaks now. It was quite nice to not do exercises for a while but now I feel the need for continuing. Whant to be connected to the qi field beacase I feel something is missing otherwise. So The new year gives me a good inspiration to start it ower again with new increased goals.
Sincerely S DJanuary 1, 2008 at 2:38 pm #26771
May i suggest with the compression you do it very gently, it is easy to do it to agressively, which can create problems, better to under do it then over do it.
happy new year.January 1, 2008 at 3:53 pm #26773
Thanks for the suggestion of gentleness. I will take it easy!
Happy new year to you to
S DJanuary 1, 2008 at 7:30 pm #26775
It’s too bad you have problems doing Tao Yin in the winter;
I was going to suggest you try that.
I find Tao Yin to be very energizing.
You may always want to try some of the internal breathing
techniques–not only do they create heat, but are also
quite energizing also.
In fact, a rapid reverse breathing with internal focus
is sometimes called “breath of fire”.
SJanuary 2, 2008 at 3:54 am #26777
I have to adapt to the demands from my illness in the winter. Then when it’s warmer again I can come back to the Tao-Yin. I like the Hatha yoga also so there is no big deal actually.
“””In fact, a rapid reverse breathing with internal focus
is sometimes called “breath of fire”. “”””
Is it just to do reversed more quikly with focus in the tan tien? Want to try this!
S DJanuary 2, 2008 at 5:19 am #26779
>>Is it just to do reversed more quikly with focus in the tan tien? Want to try this!
In QF3, Michael discusses a chi-packing technique that involves reverse breathing,
and moving a chi ball back and forth between the fire and water channels.
“Breath of fire” is technically a yoga technique that is effectively the
same thing but is done with a faster speed.
The technique generates warmth in the body, energizes the body,
and with the internal technique is designed to pack chi into the
It also works well as a supplementary technique to complement
Iron Shirt practices and strengthen them.
Given your particular situation, it may be useful to play
with this and see if you get an added benefit.
StevenJanuary 2, 2008 at 2:33 pm #26781
This sounds wery interesting. I have had much good efect from breathing earlier so I believe much in it for curing my illness. I feel I need more insstructions on this one though. Perhaps buy the cd or DVD from Michael later on. Perhaps this will be somthing to do after I have completed the 100 days I’m into now. I was traveling by buss one hour in each direction today and are wery much satisfied with my new exercises, they seems to fit well into eachother.
1 deep abdominal breathing
2 Some reversed breathing
3 Scrotal compression 3 times with about 70 % effort (Holding breath)
4 Testicle breathing with circuating energy around the head some times at the end
5 Meditation on the original cavity about 9 breaths, Not wery long breaths on the bus, just an easy one.
6 Inner smile into eyes and organs
7 Swallow saliva and feeling golden energy into the chakras
8 bellow breathing and meditation on the tan-tien
9 Micro cosmic from Yudeloves book connected with brathing going back and forth betwean different points to wach the channel.
10 Circulating energy into the navel
Quite nice and then the bus is almost at ariving into it’s destination.
By the way for the moment I feel I want to continue with Michals stuff in my Yoga group after we have completed the second book of Yudelove. It will take about 1 and a half year in the tempo we have shoosen. From what I have read here it seems to be the right ting to do. It feels like he has a system that is wery logic and well adjusted. It’s almost impossible to find a good way to continue just out of Mantak Chias books. They are good but not easy to follow as a course for a group of people.
Is the water and fire channel the same as the functional and governor or somthing else?
Smiling qi from deep within, can you feel it?
S DJanuary 2, 2008 at 4:00 pm #26783
>>This sounds wery interesting. I have had much good efect from
>>breathing earlier so I believe much in it for curing my illness.
>>I feel I need more insstructions on this one though.
>>Perhaps buy the cd or DVD from Michael later on.
Yeah, I just gave a vague idea and really didn’t give you
explicit instructions on how to do it–I’m not really sure
how much we are allowed to say if we’re not certified to teach it . . .
The breathing techniques are in the CD package
for Qigong Fundamentals 3, not the DVD–so you should get that.
The DVD teaches you the “Blissful Breathing Qigong”, which is
a very nice energizing qigong form with some internal breathing
–good in its own right–and would be worth learning also in your case,
but if you want the breathing techniques, they are on the CDs.
Also on the CDs is a breathing technique called counterforce
breathing, which can–in some cases–be even more energizing . . .
although I wouldn’t necessarily say that it is “better” than
the reverse breathing (aka “energizing breath”), it just
does different things for you. The CDs contain not only
the techniques but a lot of underlying theory to go
along with it.
>>Perhaps this will be somthing to do after I have completed
>>the 100 days I’m into now. I was traveling by buss one hour
>>in each direction today and are wery much satisfied with my
>>new exercises, they seems to fit well into eachother.
I don’t know. If you are really concerned with getting well,
I wouldn’t necessarily think it good to get too rigidly
locked into some pattern–i.e. feel you need to wait 100 days
before looking into some different things while doing some
other rigid program . . . but that’s just me and my opinion.
Feel free to ignore it.
I mean you could always get some of the CDs or whatever and
listen to them/play with them when you have some spare time
or whatever. The lifeforce works better when you are more
fluid and less forcing . . . (of course, I’m saying this
as much to myself as I am to you–I tend to structure
myself too much also). At any rate, being more fluid and
playful yields better results. When you try to force
cultivation in a rigid pattern, and say, “this is how
I’m going to do it”, the lifeforce can sometimes say,
“no, I don’t want to work with you; you’re not any fun”.
>>It’s almost impossible to find a good way to continue
>>just out of Mantak Chias books. They are good but not
>>easy to follow as a course for a group of people.
Yes. Pretty much I think he says in the prefaces that
the books are meant to be a reference for those already
in the know, and not so much as a learning tool.
For instance, opening the microcosmic orbit as outlined
in the book “Awaken Healing Energy through the Tao”,
while thorough–is unnecessarily complicated in my mind.
There are some good techniques that Michael teaches in
QF2 that are not only easier and faster, but actually
end up being more powerful anyway (in my opinion).
>>Is the water and fire channel the same as the
>>functional and governor or somthing else?
Yes. Specifically the governor vessel is the fire
channel up the back, and the functional vessel (or
conception vessel) is the water channel down the front.
These are just different names for the same thing.
>>Smiling qi from deep within, can you feel it?
Smile felt deep within my core . . .
Sending one back your way,
StevenJanuary 2, 2008 at 5:06 pm #26785
Thanks for your response. You are quite right telling me my exercises are quite rigid. I will speak about it down here. I have to do a long term budget for the moment I don’t realy know how my economical situation will be for the next year after looking into it tomorrow I’ll know when I can buy the cd:s. I will some day. Perhaps not exactly after 100 days but…
I’m not ignoring it! (Rigidity)
This question about rigidity in the practise is of course interesting. You are right that I have it a litle bit to much. It’s not only in my practise it’s a general question in my life.
This could of course be seen as the two aspects of Yin and Yang. Where Yang is rigidity or diciplin in its positive aspect and yin is more spontanous exercising. There should be a balance betwean the two.
I have solved this question for myself by doing some of my training as daily exercises I do ewery day and some that I do more spountanous and have more possibility to choose betwean what I like to exercise in the moment. But I have to admit that the yang stile is the about 90 percent of my exercises. I have just found out that I am able to conrinue with the exercises if I have a fixed plan of what to do. Otherwise I have a tendency to skip it completely or doing lesser and lesser of it.
Some of the time while traveling on the bus to my job I do quite free meditation anyway.
Sincerely smiles again, S DJanuary 4, 2008 at 3:08 am #26787
There’s nothing wrong with structure; it’s rigidity that
you want to watch for.
You want to be like a young sapling (tree).
Such a tree has structure and is rooted into the ground,
but it is also flexible and can easily bend and sway in the wind.
Too rigid, and the branches break, but you still need structure
to be a tree–no structure and you’d be a pile of jelly.
In other words, in the practical, there is nothing wrong
with having a practice routine, but you should allow yourself
to be flexible.
Not saying that this is what you want to do–but as a personal
example–when I went on my personal retreat, I created a daily
schedule of what I wanted to do every single hour I was there;
however, I didn’t follow it in lock step. Basically what I
did was to use the list as a reminder that I had things I wanted
to practice, then I would practice whatever I felt like at the
moment. After doing some practice, and wanting to practice again,
I would look at my list for suggestions of what I could do.
For instance, my list said “9:30pm Inner Smile Meditation”. However,
maybe on some day, I would feel like doing it at 2pm instead–and
so I’d do it instead of whatever I had scheduled for 2pm. In actuality, I really
only used the list as a list of suggestions, but in principle I
just kind of practiced whatever felt right. I would look at the
list and see what was listed next. If it felt right I would do it;
otherwise, I would look on the list to see if something else looked
better to do at the moment–or maybe I would decide to take my
break then rather than later and do some reading, or whatever.
By the end of the day, I usually ended up accomplishing some
decent fraction of what I listed for myself in the rigid schedule,
but never all of it, and never exactly in the order I had listed.
Again, I’m not saying this is what you should do.
You should do whatever feels right of course.
My only suggestion would be that if you feel like trying something,
go ahead and do it, rather than feeling you “can’t” because you
already have something on your schedule. It’s a much freer
and happier feeling. You still end up making progress, but
just not in the rigid way you had planned for yourself.
Just some food for thought; feel free to ignore everything
I’ve written here, if you have a system that you’re happy with.
Best, SJanuary 4, 2008 at 4:05 pm #26789
Txs for sharing your way Steven.
I think my way of doing the practises are quite similar. But your are right about your comments that there is a bit to much rigidity. I think. Will have it in my mind to see if I am capable of changing to something beter. 🙂
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