September 2, 2016 at 12:30 pm #47108
Dear Forum members,
I have noticed that, immediately following a nocturnal emission,
– I do not have any problems having an erection again;
– I do not feel any absence of arousal;
– I do not experience immediate fatigue / loss of energy (I have, however, not observed my energy level during the day that follows).
On all these points, I experience the opposite effect when I have an ejaculation as a result of masturbation or sexual intercourse.
I’m curious as to what your experiences and/or explanations are on this subject.
Thanks in advance!September 2, 2016 at 1:52 pm #47109
I heard recently the idea that sex is the opium of the people.
And I also recall Gurdjieff saying that the knowledge of how to have sex correctly (as a being of higher consciousness) had been lost to humanity.
For humans what sex represents is where your energy is siphoned out of you by negative forces that control your actions and feed off the depletion of your life force. Which is why it is so draining.
For humans, suffering as they do through total loss of self knowledge and all sorts of internal disturbances that is normal today, this depletion of life force is welcome, it relieves the suffering. It is a miny suicide for those suffering in pain.
And that seems to be the normal situation for a man and woman in bed, if you want to look at it objectively.
Two beings who try desperately to replace their lack of love and truth with the hot-wiring of their sex centres so that they “feel something”.
I have heard it said that “higher beings” have sex through mutual vibration rather than physically which might indicate how sex should be performed at a higher conscious level.
i.e. no talking or telling each other sweet bs, or “caring” for each other, or “being considerate” more bs, or thinking, or identification.
Many activities that people do (of any sort) actually hijack the sex energy, again misusing it and re-routing it into what they are doing; there is a kind of sick neon feeling when you see someone doing this … be it when someone is talking, thinking, playing music, anything. It has a distinct feeling when someone is parasiting their sex energy in their activity.
Nocturnal emissions bypass all these things because you are asleep and so is probably closer to the animal functioning. Animal sex is a healthy functioning although of a lower consciousness type.
Given the situation of mankind having sex as an animal might be the least worst way.
Our society has entered a depraved state; for instance young people are taught at school that sodomizing each other is normal and a choice you take if you are tolerant. Which is the fall of Western civilization in my opinion.
And there was an article last week in the news that young MF couples are forcing each other to have anal sex because that’s what they see done in internet pornography.
Well, it is a very sad world.September 8, 2016 at 5:09 am #47111
It’s likely because when you have a nocturnal emission, it is because your body already wants to eliminate excess prostate fluid and is already slightly imbalanced with too much unresolved sexual qi . . . so when you release, it is actually doing something good for the body. That, and any minor fatigue you might have is compensated by the fact that you are in rest mode, so when you finally arise, you don’t notice.
As for having exhaustion with ejaculation, there are methods to mitigate this.
See former article on ejaculation for some options.
SSeptember 8, 2016 at 9:32 pm #47113
Perhaps there is more of a psychic energy balance in which the inner male and female aspects are coupling. On the issue of energy loss from external stimulation – if energy charge has already become refined by practice it doesn’t seem to be so much of an issue. Practices such as sexual vitality set dragon (to take charge of lower and circulate with upper), or fire water mix (water-jing connecting to heart in mini orbit, recently mentioned by Steven), lesser Kan and Li coupling from connection to earth in standing movements from Gods Play in the Cauldron, cool draw when feels needed, warm up jing with deer exercise, massage kidneys and breasts and then refine that energy with upper connection via smile and saliva mixing (elixir practice) and of course orbits micro macro. The end result of these practices is greater psychic and physical harmony, sex and love are already mixed, less draining from interaction. It does invite a reframe of sexual desire toward more affection and consideration, spontaneously. I think the fire water mix (sexual vitality dvd) or deer exercise is really helpful. Gives control in a natural way. If practice solo full arousal I feel just relax and feel energy spread out over whole body is better than pull energy up to crown (big draw)- its the same result without force or emphasis on spine, IMO, although I respect the teaching to do it by the book.
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