October 16, 2010 at 11:57 am #35547
A few year ago I went through a spiritual experience and since then I have discovered some interesting things in my being. The purpose of my writing is to get some advise/confirmation of an experience that I continue to have. I come from a religious background and so after my experience I enfolded it in the context of which I am familiar. However, having read the Secrets of Love – Cultivating male sexual energy – I read of one of the stages that involved sitting opposite a female and using energy. I have being doing this with persons who have sought to meditate with me.
I noticed early that in the small of my back i would feel something like a dagger and then as I focused on it over time I found that it caused my back to move in an out (pumping?) then over time not all the time I noticed my eyebrows would tense I have the sensation like something is right between my eyes and this would cause me to grimace (but not in pain). At various workshops this was explained as all sorts of things but it is only in reading this book that I felt some affinity with what was being said.
Another experience which keeps occurring with one particular female is that when ever we greet each other casually if we hold tightly we lock at the heart and it is almost painful but pleasurable at the same time and we cannot disconnect until it is over.
During some sitting sessions both parties have been able to feel currents of energy and it manifest in hand movements like the dance of hands as well as sometimes the entire upper body.
I also feel the need when going into these prayer times to take off my shoes and any other ornaments like watches. I then have a very strong sense to get the centre of my foot to be as close to the floor as possible (like you want it scratched or some thing).
Other occasions persons in the sitting encounter – facing each other hold hands only the other person has collapsed on the floor – on one occasion in this position a lady had an orgasm and never told me because she was too ashamed as we were supposed to be praying.
Can you offer any light on these experience please.October 17, 2010 at 10:32 pm #35548
Yes, totally normal (and natural) to be experiencing this… just writing about this is a good thing 🙂 and you probably have already found your own answers or will in the next few days…
The “line” between sexual feelings and spiritual feelings is one of the “challenges” on the path. The challenge is not in what is, but what is in our intellectual mind.
What happens when you do the same thing meditating with awakened or unawakened men? is that sexual? Do you only do this with women and therefore associate this with sex?
Are you looking outside of yourself via these women for the completion you experienced in your initial spiritual experience?
Another challenge, is “what is my stuff, and what is the other persons stuff”.
The highest form besides “merging” with the source itself, is merging with another person – and the more sexual it is in your intellectual mind, the better – to an extent – because that is really not the truth and why some traditions try to minimize desires (not that it isn’t OK to allow yourself to want to be inside these women – very normal and natural – just has a different twist when you are awakened and especially if she is as well as you are both connecting at a deep level but you both will feel each others “shit” or karma or whatever you want to refer to it as).
I trust this will give you something for your mind to munch on if you even still need it 🙂
MQiOctober 17, 2010 at 11:30 pm #35550
My two cents, it appears all of your experiences are movements of energy within yourself or between you and another person. Movements of energy are not to be afraid of at all, but they are not understood by most in spiritual circles or for that matter society in general.
The back of your neck experience seems to be similar to the neck and sacral pumps moving either chi or jing energy in the microcosmic orbit. This is described in the book. From your other experiences it seems you are involved in some energy transfers and possibly on deep levels. And the foot itching I would say maybe is too much build up of hot energy and that can be balanced by absorbing some Earth energy through the center of your feet, ie the itching.
A lot is described in the book you mentioned and I would strongly suggest you reread it again besides the first book Awaken Healing Energy Through Tao. If you have further questions you can ask more specifically.
Balance and harmony, harmony and balance.
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