old yang, new yang and chen pan ling

A. NEW VS OLD YANG
new yang style seems to differ from old yang:
1. no leaping
2. all slow
3. no sounds
4. no front torso bent (ox plow)
5. no dim mak death touch
6. no small frame

ad 1,2: no physical movements to facilitate obvious fa ching
ad 3: no vibratory instructions for vibrational ‘strikes’ form of fa ching
ad 4: no ox plow torso position for lessening the kwa work
(was described in previous post)
ad 5: even hatsumi says that to study such thing before knowing the principles might hamper absorbtion of principles
ad 6.:then in next generations after yang cheng fu it went even further the small frame was developed with high stances only
(though there are small frame chen sets!)

such is supported for most both by kumar’s internal martial artsand wille’s secret yang transmission

such also shows how chia’s form fits (more)into old yang form

take all this back and it gets a lot like chen style
what is omitted from chen:
elbows are always down and not rotating (supposed armour techniques)
and different sequence of internalizing principles

know this and the cheng pan lin combination style (bagua and taichi) becomes old yang style with elements of bagua

chen pang lin and erle montaigue seem to teach old style form
(http://www.taijiworld.com/Articles/old_yang.htm)
(http://rtccc.hypermart.net/merchandise.shtml)

thus old style yang means inclusion of more chen elements than

B.TRADITIONAL VS MODERN YANG CHENG FU’S YANG
TRADITIONAL VS MODERN NEW YANG
yang cheng fu omitted some elements that he was taught and invented his form of yang set that is the creationg of new yang style
yet it get more complicated as there is
‘traditional’ yang chen fu style with some added alive principles
‘traditional’ yang chen fu style (taught to public/nondiscipes by yang cheng fu)
‘modern’ yang chen fu style (government sanctionized form)
yet all yang cheng fu forms fall into (or are in transition into) new yang
while he was privately practising sounds and speed alternations, these are absent from his public teaching work
there couple others that seem to teach yang cheng fu form with live principles
(http://www.nytaichi.com/, there is one other that has operations both usa and europe)

C.SOUNDS UTILIZATION
1.
one sound for inhale, other for outhale
2.
one sound for each posture
(animals)
3.
one sound for each ‘energy’ if postures too many

Will get psychotic if used to strain.
Similar are used in chen style, hung gar, bujinkan ninjutsu, five animal frolics’ winn style.

D. HEALTH
Probably best health benefit was created by Yang Cheng Fu was omittion of sounds from martial training for health. Sounds to be used in sets that are designed for health from the getgo.

includes also link to chen pang lin merchandise