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  • September 2, 2005 at 12:15 pm #7617
    Jernej
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    First Chia’s books have them written.
    There there are two thing:
    -paragraph descriptions
    -numbered descriptions

    Taking that numbered lines are actual translation and paragraph decription is oral.
    It would be nice to see them. A .jpg photo would be one page tablet.

    However going through lines Winn’s interpretation of ‘raising the shen, chi, ching’ seem more obvious then Chia’s.
    Raising the frequency rathen then raising (and so separating) the actual bodies and raising the frequency there.

    The crystalizing of collection points and dan tiens.
    Pairing and coupulating them.
    Fusion 1 technique of eating emotions becomes obvious (being failed coupulation).

    But raising the cauldron…
    Should it really be lifted. Or should only it’s frequency raised.
    In cooking the lower dan tien, when new dimension is reached, then also a higher dan tien opens. And when lower dan tien is fully open, then as consequence also full vertical central channel is open.

    Of course one could also ‘open’ dan tiens each one directly cooking it. It is better in case of failed oral transmission of lineage. Japanese tradition (Hatsumi) has a saying that written transmission is written as a backup in case one master failed transmission and next appointed master works ‘by the book’: oral transmission is needed, written texts are unnecessary, but sign of skill to be able to pass on both.

    One written way to include all intricate descriptives of the way for case of broken lineage.
    And one oral way for ease of practice. A very skillful way.

    September 2, 2005 at 6:03 pm #7618
    Michael Winn
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    Some good points here.

    But from my perspective, we also need written/spoken theory elucidated in the west because we don’t have subtle body language developed here (yet). So i feel it helps western practitioners reframe the oral tranmission experience, even though that tranmission is beyond concept. Discussion is still useful, it can result in real shifts of awreness.

    Why bother to language it at all? There is a real risk of western adepts filtering everything through their mental body. The risk is worth the possible collective advancement.

    My goal is to develop a heart-centered spiritual science pf Tap in the west, based on tao principles, but experimental, i.e. absorbing whatever methods works best to create evolutionary flow for westerners.

    m.

    September 2, 2005 at 9:48 pm #7620
    Trunk
    Participant

    m> based on tao principles, but experimental, i.e. absorbing whatever methods works best to create evolutionary flow for westerners. >

    Nice.

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