December 23, 2005 at 10:29 pm #9585
Where can we find more/instruction on the original Chang’s form of 13 posture tai chi he devised from watching a snake and sparrow fight? I know the http://www.wudangtao.com people teach it, but they only have a videos on some 18 posture form…any insights to this?December 24, 2005 at 11:50 pm #9586
This is an interesting question, the only comment I have to say is that alot of the “13 froms that are attributed to Master Chan look more like another Yang style. I recently saw a Dragon style taoist tai chi that was completely different that anything I have seen in 20+ years of Tai Chi practice. Master Yuanming Zhang’s 13 posture form and styles are what I would call more Traditional of this school of thought.
But who is to say what is authentic or not, there has been so many inversions in tai Chi and views. I personally think the Primordial Qigong it is the next best thing but it’s not a Martial Tai Chi. I found it to be a complete system with more there than meets the eye and is excellent since it pulls the qi in. And it flows and is enjoyable and you can integrate so much into it. I think the teacher that brought it to the west was an authentic honest teacher and Mikes presentation is complete in itself.
So with that happy hunting..try Master Zhang’s 13 posture it is a great interpetation of a Taoist 13 Posture form that you seek.. happy holidays snowlionDecember 26, 2005 at 11:29 pm #9588
I think (obviously) that the wuji gong is authentic original 13 movement form (12 movements of earth, and one movement of heaven, even if it is done 200 times per form.
For martial style, the 13 movement form of the Yang family private practice form that Mantak Chia teaches as Tai chi Chi Kung is really an excellent form – very grounded, goes both left and right, has the eight core movmeents in the five directions (= 13 total). I haven’t seen a better shorm form anywhere. I did it for ten years before deciding to learn long wu style form (northern wu, large frame). it got me really grounded and centered. I would spendup to 45 minutes doing one round. That is super slow, almost like a standing posture that invisibly shifts.
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