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April 4, 2016 at 3:01 am #46249StevenModerator
Let’s get away from this argument of whether it is or is not damaging to the body. The bottom line is, is that ANY chemical that alters biochemistry, be that caffeine, nicotine, LSD, ayahuasca, ibuprofen, whatever, needs to be detoxified by the body–typically the liver–and exhausts qi to do so. Also, the cascade of different hormone releases via the introduction of the chemical also acts a drain on resources. But this is true regardless of which drug is consumed, be it ibuprofen, caffeine, or heroin, for that matter. The only real question is whether the trade-off for this resource depletion is worth it.
Use of psychedelics once/twice for the purpose of introducing a radical shift if someone is completely stuck, or if one needs convincing that there is something “more” to reality . . . is somewhat understandable. The price you pay for the use, may be less than the benefit gained. There is no question that this is definitely possible, especially if the result is a firm change in how a person conducts their life in general. Examples are what you and Viktor have given, with clear messages to do HT/qigong.
However, I would caution against any kind of regular use.
Psychedelics tend to be ungrounding and destabilizing, and so they can make it more difficult for a person to feel they can manage their lives afterward. There tends to be more instability of emotions. Also, like a dream that fades with time, the fading of the experience often calls for a return for more use, a desire for another peak experience, and can lead to a scenario where–despite all the rationalizations for its use–it becomes nothing more than escapism. Trying to escape life, rather than living in it. As time goes on, the destabilizing effect of repeated use can make life harder and harder to deal with, can trigger deep depressions, and amplify a sense of isolation. It can amplify feelings of deep unhappiness with life. Despite apparent insights, the end result is moving backward, not forward in life.One commonality I’ve found in all of this is a lack of soul purpose, a reason for being here, a deep depressive sadness, and intense loneliness. In my view, HT and qigong are by far superior to psychedelics in resolving these issues. Rather than ungrounding, they help anchor insights into the physical body, allow insights to integrate in in a way that is more lasting, helps a person manage their daily life better, and helps to chip away at the underlying issues that are the bedrock of a person’s troubles.
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April 4, 2016 at 8:11 am #46251AnonymousInactiveThanks for your thoughts, Victor.
My study of nutrition has led me to regular wild foraging and an appreciation for the founding principles of permaculture (though I haven’t practiced it directly).
I, too, have sat under the teaching of psychedelics, in my case the primary teacher being psilocybin cubensis.
It was one of the more powerful motivators for fueling my Way along the HealingDao path. It proved to me that the gnosis experience is real, that I am not the “ego-self”, and it effectively dissolved my ability to desire anything less than direct experience of Truth. As your experience with ayahuasca, it too gave me clarity concerning my familial relations, including my son.
My experience with psychadelics more or less supports everyone’s thoughts here. Seen without reference to other options, they are an incredible tool. But as with any tool, their usefulness can best be understood relative to other tools. Taking a vacation to another country may be very eye-opening. And for one who has never left the town he was born in, it may be “the ultimate experience”. He will promote it to everyone he knows. Yet to someone who is working daily towards moving to that country, a temporary vacation there at the expense of some of his savings is a waste of time.
One of the clear messages in each of my psychedelic experiences is that the HealingTao path is my Way. That is what will “get me there” – not the psychedelics.
I think it would be useful to have a deeper understanding of how much energy these substances use. If “one experience” set one back a year’s worth of work, it would not be worth using, save perhaps once to start the journey. If, on the other hand, the amount of jing/chi used could be replenished in a mere week of qigong practice, perhaps it could be beneficial (for some) to use it on an annual or biannual basis (in the beginning stages).
I realize those thoughts are fairly mechanistic but perhaps someone here could explain a better question to ask or provide the info necessary to see the situation more clearly.
June 22, 2016 at 5:13 am #46253thomaschristeenaParticipantHow to deal with elder child having jealousy from newborn second baby? My elder son feels that we(parents) have stopped loving him from the day second new born has arrived.
July 6, 2016 at 3:18 pm #46255StevenModeratorMake sure to give the elder child some time, just with him . . . so he doesn’t feel like he lost that.
As to the extra jealousy, if he’s old enough, teach him the LIVER sound SSSSHHHH, to release that from the liver. It’s tied in with anger, frustration, envy, stress, etc., all different variants of liver’s unpleasant emotions.
So, in short, balance some of his needs, with emotional tools that he can be taught, to work with them.
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