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February 27, 2007 at 10:04 pm #21335StevenModerator
You are absolutely right. I don’t know I forgot about the
Inner Smile for situations like this. I think that this
could be a powerful tool.I actually do have the meditation CD, and it is quite good.
I haven’t practiced it for awhile, since I’ve been distracted
with QF1 and DHQ.However, now that you and others have mentioned this, this
makes me realize that I need to go back and return to this practice. I think
I need to practice this more so that I can draw upon it without
the CD and *think* to use it in other contexts.Best,
StevenFebruary 27, 2007 at 10:14 pm #21337StevenModeratorGoing slightly off topic here . . .
It is kind of ironic that you mentioned this, because I just got done reading
a short paragraph intro on this in Michael’s 5 Animals book.Is this something that people train to do for some reason, or
is this something that happens spontaneously to certain personality types
after continued qigong practice for no discernable reason?Michael mentioned something about an alchemy conference where this
issue was discussed? Is anyone familiar with this?Steve
February 28, 2007 at 3:56 am #21339wendyParticipantIf you are the sensible type like you are, you can eat chi easily.
When I am at retreats with fair amount of good chi 🙂 I don’t need food much or eat none at all, or often just little bit for the social part of it. Once back in the stream of normal life, the eating starts to become were I left it before a retreat.
When you arrange your life dedicated to practice only and have a good surrounding with nice chi and you are a receptive type it is not even hard in my opinion.
February 28, 2007 at 4:55 am #21341Alexander AlexisParticipantHO’OPONOPONO
> by Joe Vitale
>
> “Two years ago, I heard about a therapist in Hawaii who cured a
> complete ward of criminally insane patients–without ever seeing any
> of them. The psychologist would study an inmate’s chart and then look
> within himself to see how he created that person’s illness. As he
> improved himself, the patient improved.
>
> “When I first heard this story, I thought it was an urban legend. How
> could anyone heal anyone else by healing himself? How could even the
> best self-improvement master cure the criminally insane? It didn’t
> make any sense. It wasn’t logical, so I dismissed the story.
>
> “However, I heard it again a year later. I heard that the therapist
> had used a Hawaiian healing process called ho ‘oponopono. I had never
> heard of it, yet I couldn’t let it leave my mind. If the story was at
> all true, I had to know more. I had always understood “total
> responsibility” to mean that I am responsible for what I think and
> do.
> Beyond that, it’s out of my hands. I think that most people think of
> total
> responsibility that way. We’re responsible for what we do, not what
> anyone else does–but that’s wrong.
>
> “The Hawaiian therapist who healed those mentally ill people would
> teach me an advanced new perspective about total responsibility. His
> name is Dr. Ihaleakala Hew Len. We probably spent an hour talking on
> our first phone call. I asked him to tell me the complete story of
> his
> work as a therapist.
>
> He explained that he worked at Hawaii State Hospital for four years.
>
> That ward where they kept the criminally insane was dangerous.
>
> Psychologists quit on a monthly basis. The staff called in sick a lot
> or simply quit. People would walk through that ward with their backs
> against the wall, afraid of being attacked by patients. It was not a
> pleasant place to live, work, or visit.
>
> “Dr. Len told me that he never saw patients. He agreed to have an
> office and to review their files. While he looked at those files, he
> would work on himself. As he worked on himself, patients began to
> heal.
>
> “‘After a few months, patients that had to be shackled were being
> allowed to walk freely,’ he told me. ‘Others who had to be heavily
> medicated were getting off their medications. And those who had no
> chance of ever being released were being freed.’ I was in awe.’Not
> only that,’ he went on, ‘but the staff began to enjoy coming to work.
>
> Absenteeism and turnover disappeared. We ended up with more staff
> than
> we needed because patients were being released, and all the staff was
> showing up to work. Today, that ward is closed.’
>
> “This is where I had to ask the million dollar question: ‘What were
> you doing within yourself that caused those people to change?’
>
> “‘I was simply healing the part of me that created them,’ he said. I
> didn’t understand. Dr. Len explained that total responsibility for
> your life means that everything in your life- simply because it is in
> your life–is your responsibility. In a literal sense the entire
> world
> is your creation.
>
> “Whew. This is tough to swallow. Being responsible for what I say or
> do is one thing. Being responsible for what everyone in my life says
> or does is quite another. Yet, the truth is this: if you take
> complete
> responsibility for your life, then everything you see, hear, taste,
> touch, or in any way experience is your responsibility because it is
> in your life. This means that terrorist activity, the president, the
> economy or anything you experience and don’t like–is up for you to
> heal. They don’t exist, in a manner of speaking, except as
> projections
> from inside you. The problem isn’t with them, it’s with you, and to
> change them, you have to change you.
>
> “I know this is tough to grasp, let alone accept or actually live.
> Blame is far easier than total responsibility, but as I spoke with
> Dr.
> Len, I began to realize that healing for him and in ho ‘oponopono
> means loving yourself.
>
> “If you want to improve your life, you have to heal your life. If you
> want to cure anyone, even a mentally ill criminal you do it by
> healing
> you.
>
> “I asked Dr. Len how he went about healing himself. What was he
> doing,
> exactly, when he looked at those patients’ files?
>
> “‘I just kept saying, ‘I’m sorry’ and ‘I love you’ over and over
> again,’
> he explained.
>
> “That’s it?
>
> “That’s it.
>
> “Turns out that loving yourself is the greatest way to improve
> yourself, and as you improve yourself, you improve your world.
>
> “Let me give you a quick example of how this works: one day, someone
> sent me an email that upset me. In the past I would have handled it
> by
> working on my emotional hot buttons or by trying to reason with the
> person who sent the nasty message.
>
> “This time, I decided to try Dr. Len’s method. I kept silently
> saying,
> ‘I’m sorry’ and ‘I love you,’ I didn’t say it to anyone in
> particular.
> I was simply evoking the spirit of love to heal within me what was
> creating the outer circumstance.
>
> “Within an hour I got an e-mail from the same person. He apologized
> for his previous message. Keep in mind that I didn’t take any outward
> action to get that apology. I didn’t even write him back. Yet, by
> saying ‘I love you,’ I somehow healed within me what was creating
> him.
>
> “I later attended a ho ‘oponopono workshop run by Dr. Len. He’s now
> 70
> years old, considered a grandfatherly shaman, and is somewhat
> reclusive.
>
> He praised my book, The Attractor Factor. He told me that as I
> improve
> myself, my book’s vibration will raise, and everyone will feel it
> when
> they read it. In short, as I improve, my readers will improve.
>
> “‘What about the books that are already sold and out there?’ I asked.
>
> “‘They aren’t out there,’ he explained, once again blowing my mind
> with his mystic wisdom. ‘They are still in you.’ In short, there is
> no
> out there. It would take a whole book to explain this advanced
> technique with the depth it deserves.
>
> “Suffice It to say that whenever you want to improve anything in your
> life, there’s only one place to look: inside you. When you look, do
> it
> with love.”
>
> http://hooponopono.org/lectures.htmlFebruary 28, 2007 at 6:50 am #21343BeginnerParticipantThanks AA. I read about this a few months ago and it triggered that big guilt place in me and I stayed away like I also did with the practice of tonglen, where one breathes in the trouble and out the virtue.
What I mean is in my deeper perceptions I experience this as truth. The deep resonance we are. The mind says well this guy is special but i know it is not that.
To put it into shen terms, this practice supports my hearts expression but could suppress my lungs. What I mean is I could lose myself in the other and soon take responsibility in a false way. I am not sure what this means but I can feel it.
Taking full responsibility for myself is somehow taking responsibility for others and this is a paradox the mind fries in.
Just thinking out loud…Bar
February 28, 2007 at 7:21 am #21345wendyParticipantGentleness flows everywhere where it finds a passage. Your nearness with your own sadness gives you the possibility to be close with the sadness of another person.
The nearness with your own anger gives you the courage to encounter the anger of another person without being caught by it. Mild open attention gives you space and warmth.My tip to you, be as aware as possible in your encounters with ‘others’, instead of living in your own head and thoughts as you say you do, try to meet, be open and alert to what is happening around you, always.
February 28, 2007 at 3:41 pm #21347Michael WinnKeymasterThis topic was well covered. Just wanted to emphasize what Trunk was saying about coming from strength instead of fear. And to add to NN point about not being shy about using energetic techniques until things are better integrated.
I think its very different to have an intention to wisely and neutrally set up a boundary to keep out distractions and unwanted energy than it is to set up a “protection shield” energetically that is based on some level of fear, or protecting some weakness within.Protection can attract more negativity like a magnet. Negative energy will try and match your level of unconscious fear.
Setting a boundary is like closing the door to your home – the signal is “I want privacy” or “Do not Disturb”. It doesn’t magnetize the way fear does.
Energy boundaries are permeable – you can still witness neutrally what is happening outside, without judgment or reactivity. You don’t lose your ability to respond if you so feel called. You just open the door. But the event no longer controls you, it is your free choice.
hope this helps.
michaelFebruary 28, 2007 at 4:49 pm #21349NnonnthParticipantFebruary 28, 2007 at 5:43 pm #21351Alexander AlexisParticipantFebruary 28, 2007 at 5:51 pm #21353StevenModeratorFebruary 28, 2007 at 6:20 pm #21355StevenModeratorHi Alexander. . . I found this to be an interesting article.
I have to say that I’ve never really believed that all that
we experience is created from our own consciousness.I’ve always viewed Earth as a playground that several individuals each
with their own consciousness are sharing. Under this idea,
I’m in control of myself and others are in control of their selves.
When these two things intersect, incompatibility arises and that is
where lessons form.HOWEVER, having said that, I’m willing to keep an open mind,
and consider the claims in the article to be a possibility.Thank you for sharing this. You’ve given me something to think about 🙂
Best,
StevenFebruary 28, 2007 at 6:30 pm #21357StevenModeratorMarch 1, 2007 at 1:09 am #21359Alexander AlexisParticipantYou might take a look at Colin Tipping’s book Radical Forgiveness for a very clean, clear rundown of the principles involved and how to use them. -A
March 4, 2007 at 4:44 am #21361VirochanaParticipantTry this and see if it works for you (it has for me).
First make sure your energy is up and inwardly radiant.
Then go into a very polluted environment, say a smoggy city, noise, a bad party, everything or almost anything.
In a grounded way, let go of the breath, no thoughts, let go of trying to buffer yourself, and feel a kind of inner poetry with it. Bad smells become just energy, noise becomes many voices singing, and inwardly feel that divinity. Be sure you are outside (not in a building, your energy msut be larger than the confines of a room). Do this while moving (keep the poetry), not sitting still with eyes closed. Keep the core deep in the body (stay present and a pressence inside of you).Do not overdue it, but see if you can carry that breathless-kind-of-state through such a situation. Even if you end up not feeling so well, you will be able to throw if off quicker with your practices, and you might gain some practical experience with something inside that is beyond all this.
While this is a much different and perhaps more impersonal scenario than you mentioned (about absorbing peoples negativity), their is a carry over.
Virochana
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