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practices for developing vertical surrender in lower dantian

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  • June 27, 2013 at 9:53 pm #40914
    nomad
    Participant

    what are some practices for developing vertical surrender in the lower dantian/hara region? not a strong masculine hara like martial artists, but a feminine surrender that is ready to meet the great dark void, or just to develop more internal space, like a resting place for the heart?

    June 28, 2013 at 4:00 pm #40915
    Steven
    Moderator

    Inner Smile
    and
    Standing Practice (e.g. Iron Shirt 1, Yiquan, etc.)

    are probably the two best for getting you to surrender
    to what is and to be able to just be, resonating from
    your core. Standing Practice is critical for grounding
    and getting you out of your head / into your body.
    Inner Smile’s unconditional acceptance helps in the
    surrender to the lifeforce, as well as the “lack of doing”
    in the standing practice.

    S

    July 1, 2013 at 9:24 pm #40917
    nomad
    Participant

    cool, thanks

    when doing iron shirt in for this purpose is it better to just stand in the postures or is it ok to add the packing and other stuff as well? i dont know much about iron shirt just read about it a little

    July 10, 2013 at 2:09 pm #40919
    Steven
    Moderator

    It is really your preference.

    Personally I just prefer to do relaxed abdominal breathing,
    drop my consciousness into my abdomen, and feel the earth
    connection beneath my feet. I feel this amplifies the
    grounding effect, and for me, is the real purpose of doing
    Iron Shirt 1.

    But if you want to do packing, MO, etc., there is nothing
    wrong with it.

    S

    July 20, 2013 at 5:10 pm #40921
    nomad
    Participant

    yea, i’d rather just stand in the postures and do it like yiquan zhan zhuang….

    where can i find the postures in the fundamentals 3&4? is it necessary to listen to the fundamentals 3 cd’s and dvd, or can i go directly into the 4?

    thanks

    July 20, 2013 at 7:14 pm #40923
    Steven
    Moderator

    They are demonstrated on the QF4 video.
    There are a few places on the QF4 video where certain things
    would make more sense if you already knew counterforce breathing
    from QF3 audio set, but it is not critical. You could start
    watching and learning from the QF4 video immediately without much loss.

    S

    July 21, 2013 at 9:57 am #40925
    nomad
    Participant

    ok thanks

    July 21, 2013 at 2:10 pm #40927
    nomad
    Participant

    question, on the dvd cover it says there are 5 still postures, while on the dvd there are 3 still postures and 3 moving postures…why is that?

    I don’t know iron shirt, but are these postures better?

    the hugging tree moving posture was a little hard to do for me….

    July 21, 2013 at 2:11 pm #40929
    nomad
    Participant

    also, are the first 3 postures done with legs straight? or can one bend the knees and lower the perinium as well?

    July 21, 2013 at 3:03 pm #40931
    nomad
    Participant

    also i am thinking of building up each posture to 5 minutes each (harder for the first two because the arms get tired) for a total of 30 minutes practice. would it be better to focus on two postures for 10 minutes each (not the first two) and switch them off every day (still 30 minutes of practice) so that the body can relax more deeply into each posture?

    July 27, 2013 at 9:20 pm #40933
    Steven
    Moderator

    >>>I don’t know iron shirt, but are these postures better?

    I think they are better for Bone Breathing, but not as good as
    Iron Shirt 1 for grounding, in my opinion.

    S

    July 27, 2013 at 9:22 pm #40935
    Steven
    Moderator

    either way . . . whichever method motivates you to practice . . . S

    September 1, 2013 at 9:25 pm #40937
    nomad
    Participant

    which postures are better for developing a relaxed belly?

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