September 1, 2006 at 5:50 am #17269
The Danger of mixing revelation with physical reality. -Michael
PRIEST DIES AFTER TRYING TO WALK ON WATER
Glasgow Daily Record, UK / ReligionNewsBlog.com
August 31, 2006
A priest has died after trying to demonstrate how Jesus walked on water.
Evangelist preacher Franck Kabele, 35, told his congregation he could repeat
the biblical miracle.
But he drowned after walking out to sea from a beach in the capital
Libreville in Gabon, west Africa.
One eyewitness said: “He told churchgoers he’d had a revelation that if he
had enough faith, he could walk on water like Jesus.
“He took his congregation to the beach saying he would walk across the Komo
estuary, which takes 20 minutes by boat.
“He walked into the water, which soon passed over his head and he never came
back.”September 1, 2006 at 6:02 am #17270September 1, 2006 at 1:39 pm #17272
Glancing very quickly at this, why did he die?
Does anyone on the forum think Jesus really did walk on water?
I am just wondering, it would be interesting to hear people’s responses just for response sake.
I used to think everyone “knew” it was a myth and just acted like it’s not just like Santa Clause, for effect. Over the years though people insisted on it with such disregard for other people’s religions, myths, whatever and no one was able to discuss it. Then people started the whole holy spirit thing.
Finally I decided some people must for one reason or another think it’s true at least to some degree. I never understood why they can’t just say it’s a myth. A lot of these religions agree on love and compassion and golden rule living, so what’s to lose?September 1, 2006 at 4:11 pm #17274
– this is what the wonderful Austin Osman Spare would call an example of ‘The cloudy enemies born of stagnant self-hypnotism’. The guy is probably *still* trying to walk on water right now in his spirit body. He’d hypnotized himself completely and probably did not think he was drowning. Just one more death from religion. At least he didn’t kill anyone else.
I have no idea whether or not Jesus walked on water, or even existed, but walking on water is certainly possible – check out the thread with Fajin and me and a few others on the ‘practice’ page. Check out ‘Crouching Tiger’ come to that. It’s a neat trick – strictly for experts!
NNSeptember 2, 2006 at 7:58 am #17276September 3, 2006 at 2:43 am #17278
There ones once a sufi in deep prayer and after coming out of pray he said aloud that he was god. Sone after he was put to death. To clam your birth rite of ever lasting life, and to proclaim your divinity, is revolutionary in any time period I know of. But the importance of the diference between revolation and years of practice is clearly laid out by this mans death. I to was tired of the norm. I feel blessed to have a place where I can read and write about the amazing thing it is to be human.September 3, 2006 at 6:29 am #17280
This will and belief of iron are the same will and belief of iron that religious fanatics everywhere show, whether in the present US administration, their Islamic nemesis(isisies), the various loopy cults around the world, etc. This is not an awakeness to the wonder of being human, this is manic escapist self-deception. The guy was not being his own self, he was being Jesus from a storybook. He would rather show an egocentric blindness to reality than heal it.
If he had told his whole flock they could also perform the same feat, and they all drowned, how different would that be from Waco? NNSeptember 3, 2006 at 10:32 am #17282
– that he was not a ‘spiritual pioneer’ like you would admire at all, but believed all he had to do was be like his impression of someone else out of a book. In other words he had discovered nothing from his *own* understanding.
I say this because of course I agree with you that those who follow their own truth are admirable for that. It’s just that this was *not* his own truth IMHO. It wasn’t truth at all was it?
NNSeptember 3, 2006 at 12:21 pm #17284
Waco was a little diferent. There was no poison in the punch, but there was a killing in the name of there protection.. But I still got your point.
“This is not an awakeness to the wonder of being human”
Is this comment directed at me? If so I thought I clearly stated that there is an important difernce between revolation and years of practice and self discovery. There are moments of clarity, or people feel oneness, it can be a motivator, instead of viewing it as the hole picture.September 3, 2006 at 1:03 pm #17286September 4, 2006 at 5:28 am #17288September 4, 2006 at 11:38 am #17290
this reminds me of the story told in Rushdies Satanic Verses
where Ayesha, an spiritual miracle women, leads her group into the
Arabian Sea, which she expects to part like the Red Sea in the bible.
Most people drown of course, but one survivor states:
“Just when my strength had failed and I thought I would surely die there in
the water, I saw it with my own eyes; I saw the sea divide, like hair being
combed; and they were all there, far away, walking away from me.”
so I really wonder what this priest is doing in the astral now…!
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