January 29, 2011 at 10:54 am #36523
I was just wondering about the applications for using Primordial Qigong as a method of exorcism. Personally I’m not sure what to believe about the existence of the supernatural, but from what I understand if such things as hauntings or spirit possessions exist then Primordial might be a good thing to do.
Does anyone have any experiences with this? Anyone performed Primordial in a place that was possibly haunted or inhabited by spirits?
I once performed it in a graveyard which was pretty cool but I didn’t have any supernatural experience other than feeling a sense of peace.January 29, 2011 at 1:23 pm #36524
I do not have any personal experience with this.
However, I have “heard” that by doing Primordial
it opens up a portal between the formless realm
and the world of form . . . a portal similar to
the one that opens up when someone is born or
when someone dies.
Thus, theoretically, it seems possible that doing
Primordial in place that is haunted, inhabited by
spirits, and the like . . . could possibly help
such spirits “cross over”.
In fact, I remember someone telling me that they
likewise had performed Primordial in a cemetery
and they *did* feel that some spirits had crossed over
via their portal . . .
Whether this did indeed happen, or it was
purely fantasy, is ultimately anybody’s guess.
SJanuary 29, 2011 at 6:24 pm #36526
already rough enough here, and controversial enough, BUT
personal experiences came after booting up my brain with star alchemy, brain twirling, and the Atlantean, which is taught by modern Magi Golden Dawn (and a whole lot of Koran)
i don’t think there is any rhyme or reason to the recently deceased of any entity other than common sense…
if it works to stick around they do because there is a reason, i have had what appeared to be the deceased come through 4 years, 2 months or even two constant weeks later, dream and waking, on audio and sensory aura levels, you can feel them coming in inside the dream
this is why i was amazed to discover i could communicate with local overselves via palming while they are sleeping…
they will actually wake up inside of their body and the double will look at you then go right back in and start talking to you in their sleep
right now I am fighting to get rid of ka invasion by an apparent Iroquois witch woman
you’ve never seen anything worse than a reincarnated Iroquois witch woman
so who knows..
i just started today using dodecahedral crystal star absorption which seems to be shielding some
if i remember correctly, primordial IS DODECAHEDRAL
but reason came from a channel through Mason Kenneth Mackenzie
which just happened to happen todayJanuary 29, 2011 at 6:36 pm #36528
or entering owls and other things across the dream dimensionJanuary 29, 2011 at 7:05 pm #36530
Wow ribosome your posts are both way over my head and hilarious.January 29, 2011 at 7:58 pm #36532January 29, 2011 at 8:21 pm #36534
I invite the “the newly departed” humans to cross over thru the portal I create in every session of primordial. I work in the Quality Management department of a large hospital & review every death. I make sure I do a few extra primordial sessions dedicated just to these deaths I review. My understanding of esoteric science is that we have a duty to help others cross over if we have the ability to be aware of these dead stuck souls. In fact we have the right to insist they cross over & quit polluting our environment. I certainly feel much lighter after these primordial sessions. In fact if I don’t do this I like I’m dragging around their “stuff” with me. I guess I’m excorcising myself. I’ve just started sending the yuan chi to others in need of healing in my primordial sessions with beneficial results to them & to me.January 30, 2011 at 12:02 am #36536
Nice thanks StevenJanuary 30, 2011 at 12:07 am #36538
Wow very cool! Thanks for the response! Definitely apropos to the topic.January 30, 2011 at 10:53 am #36540
true, and I meant that in a good way 🙂February 15, 2011 at 9:52 am #36542
The bandit feels no shame
That’s the guy that you can blame
For your horrors and your nightmares
That’s the guy that makes you cry
The bandit is a friend of mine
The bandit is one of a kind
The bandit in the wild
The bandit at his prime
The bandit, bandit
-BURNING LIFE, Bandit
This Kenneth R. H. Mackenzie, which Ribosome mentioned, is such a type of channeler with whose material I would be quite carefull.
Of course it’s interesting to try to study these phenomena.
My own favorite would be propably Eusapia Palladino.
Exorcism is not for sissies, IMO.
Textually one could suggest somebody to study Michael Saso’s The Teachings of Taoist Master Chuang, for learning about certain type of Daoist ritual practice and also some details.
Most important is in my opinion to learn multitasking in extreme external & internal stress.
For somebody dealing with odic forces one should have experience with a bit of everything…and such things are not for the fainhearted.
HOWDYMarch 19, 2011 at 4:30 am #36544
I remember one good example from this forum, which Michael Winn himself has told. It was about some young woman and her experience with an Indian guru. I understood she had started to have some bad after vibes (I wonder if this expression which makes sense or gives right meaning) after havin’ had confrontation with this Indian guy, but as I understood also, Healing Tao practices somehow had eased her situation (she learned these from Michael Winn).
Alternatively I would like to mention some particular Buddhist practice or it’s more like Dzogchen approach.
It’s well presented in book form in CHÖGYAL NAMKHAI NORBU’s Yantra Yoga-the Tibetan Yoga of Movement treatise. If there is serious need for exorcism that is very good with practice of Chöd if one cannot find Daoist equivalence, IMHO.
Just last weekend there was empowerment in Helsinki for Chöd from the point of Aro gTer tradition (Nyingma). I wasn’t there because maybe it should have been given on real charnel ground.
Exorcism is in my opinion for Avadhutas.
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