November 10, 2005 at 7:24 pm #8365
I (and a number of others that I’ve talked to) have been getting so much from pulsing the sacrum, that I thought I’d re-post on this topic. This has been a breakthrough on par with kan&li for me. Any feedback, experiences with this method, appreciated.
I’m just gonna pull a few paragraphs from essays at my site, w/a bit of mods:
In order for sexual vitality to be effectively brought up the spine, it first needs to be drawn to the sacrum. One way, and part, of doing this is to get the sacrum itself to pulse. This is generally done through a combination of breathing, meditation, and muscular flexion around the sacrum – all of which trigger a sacral pulsing that is native to jing, which draws the sexual energy into the sacrum and, from there, jing moves up through the spinal column more easily (though some work is still involved).
Instructions such as “clench the buttocks” and “straighten the lower back” are not specific to the muscles that directly massage the sacrum, and so fail to trigger sacral pulsing, and likewise fail to catalyze the sexual vitality ~ sacrum relationship. The muscles immediately surrounding the sacrum need to be gently flexed, repeatedly.
Realize that, by pulsing the sacrum and drawing jing into the spinal column, you’re nurturing nerve plexuses at the roots. Activating the jing~sacrum connection often prompts deep, deep, healing in the lower tan tien. You may find that some rather profound patterns present and resolve. When first practicing this integration its an especially important period to be compassionate, spacious, and steadily present with your self.
Rest your awareness in your lower tan tien, inhale from/into your ltt, and exhale slowly while keeping your awareness in your lower tan tien. At the nadir of your exhale (when you’ve exhaled as much as you’re gonna), at that moment, gently squeeze the muscles around your sacrum. Take a normal breath or two, then repeat. This should be done until your sacrum starts pulsing.
You’ll find that at the bottom of the exhale, its particularly easy to flex the muscles that surround the sacrum – the tissues and all are just set up for it perfectly at that place in the breath. Also, the front store-houses of jing are closest to the sacrum at that point. Its easy and effective. The gentle flexing around the sacrum starts the pulsing, and the pulsing of the sacrum just draws the jing right on back – and the pulsing further massages jing deeply into the tissues at the base of the spine. All of which produces a deep relationship of front-sexual-vitality to back-base-of-spine which can, for some, make a huge huge improvement in cultivation.
Experiment, enjoy, and – again – I’d be interested to hear once you’ve tried this out.
p.s. Complements of Alchemical Taoism.com.November 11, 2005 at 5:32 pm #8366
What do you mean by “Take a normal breath or two, then repeat”?
Do you mean do that WHILE still squeezing the muscles around the sacrum?
Or do you mean “stop squeezing, go back to inhaling and keeping your awareness in the TT, and then start the above process all over again”?
Also, I assume when you start squeezing around the sacrum your awareness moves there as well (i.e., away from the TT to the sacrum)?
Thanks.November 11, 2005 at 8:08 pm #8368
> What do you mean by “Take a normal breath or two, then repeat”?
Do you mean do that WHILE still squeezing the muscles around the sacrum? >
The squeeze-around-the-sacrum is not a sustained squeeze, nor a clench; its just a flex-and-relax. Like, if you were to count during the squeeze (and you needn’t), you’d only get to “1” (maybe a slow “1”).
> Or do you mean “stop squeezing, go back to inhaling and keeping your awareness in the TT, and then start the above process all over again”? >
Flexing around the sacrum starts something, a pulsing-of-the-sacrum in relation to sexual-vitality-in-the-front. That has its own dynamic, its own tempo, and shifts things around inside the ltt. The idea is to get that going, and let that go of its own accord, unhindered by deliberate breathing.
So, when I say, “Take a normal breath or two”, I mean to just relax. Don’t do any special breathing. No deliberate ltt breathing. Just relax and breathe normally – however that is for you at that time. “Take a breather” from doing anything. This gives your ltt space to do whatever it might do, sort of “on its own”, from whatever dynamic you may (or may not have) started. If your sacrum is pulsing, then that’s it, you’re finished with the method. If its not, repeat the method.
> I assume when you start squeezing around the sacrum your awareness moves there as well (i.e., away from the TT to the sacrum)? >
I’m using the ltt to mean the whole lower abdomen… with this method I haven’t thought to be specific other than that. So, I didn’t mean specifically any particular point on the front, back, or neutral space when I said to have your attn in the ltt. Just have awareness in the lower abdomen.
I guess when I flex around the sacrum, my attention does go there. But I hadn’t really thought about it, nor maneuvered it there as a sustained concentration exercise. Might be an interesting thing to try.. hmmm. If you experiment and find anything, I’d be glad to hear.
Thanks, good ?’s, helps clarify my writing.
TrunkNovember 12, 2005 at 10:59 am #8370
I feel the urge to respond to what you’re doing. I have been having spontaneous yoga “kriyas” related to sacral pulsing for some time now. The action of my kriya is similar to your exercise..which occurs when I’m laying supine (sometimes even in the prone position). The contractions are around the sacrum (and buttocks too I think) and cause my whole pelvic region to “bounce” up and down in quick movements. I would say about 4-5 contractions a second.
The other piece to this, which may or may not interest you, is the simultaneous pulses taking place in the muscles surrounding the occipital region. These cause my head to pulse forward (rotationally) in the same manner. Maybe something to do with movements of cerebro-spinal fluid? The head pulses do not occur every time. I assume, in yoga terminology, this is all part of the process in becoming urdhvaretas ( a yogi in whom the seminal energy flows upwards to the brain and is stored up as Ojas Sakti or spiritual energy).
hassanNovember 12, 2005 at 11:26 am #8372
This is lovely, I just tried it. But isn’t it really a subset of the bone breathing Chia (and Michael, if I remember) teach: squeeze your muscles gently into your bones and then relax. You’ll feel the whole bone / skeleton start to breathe and later the pulse of your heart in the marrow. Putting your smile / attention at the tip of your coccyx can also start some nice skeletal pulsing.
TripNovember 12, 2005 at 1:48 pm #8374
> I have been having spontaneous yoga “kriyas” related to sacral pulsing for some time now. .. is the simultaneous pulses taking place in the muscles surrounding the occipital region. .. Maybe something to do with movements of cerebro-spinal fluid? .. urdhvaretas ( a yogi in whom the seminal energy flows upwards to the brain and is stored up as Ojas Sakti or spiritual energy) >
Yes. You are talking about the analogous process from the point of view of a yogic system. The integration of the whole spine (indeed, the whole skeletal system) with vitality. And around the occiput gets acknowledged as the upper corolary to the sacrum. Taoist systems tend to have more available detail about getting the sexual vitality to specifically enter the marrow (the brain is considered a “special kind of marrow”), and also tend to emphasize grounding .. harmonious integration of up and down (where as the yogic systems tend to emphasize up).
My recent experience with pulsing the sacrum is that it sends vitality up the spine, as one might expect, but also has triggered a deeper experience of the “little orbit” (where vitality does a little loop just within the lower abdomen), and has done much to loop vitality through my legs. Things I hadn’t expected, but just showed up. The sacrum is a big key.
There’s work to get the vitality up the spine step by step (and back down). Different people have different sections that are easy/difficult.
trunkNovember 12, 2005 at 3:11 pm #8376
> This is lovely, I just tried it. >
Glad you like it.
> But isn’t it really a subset of the bone breathing Chia (and Michael, if I remember) teach >
It looks to me that you’re addressing a question of propriety, ownership. On that line, I’d say: Actually no, not really.
If the specific method that I describe at the top of this thread is specifically taught by Chia and/or Winn, then they’ve either come up with it independently or have learned it from someone else.
If you’re asserting that they’ve taught some things that have some similarity to the method described and so have some proprietary claim to this specific method (and, by logical extension, to any method taught by anyone that has similarity to any method that they’ve taught) then I suggest you take a logic refresher.
As far as myself, I’d rather not be specifically acknowledged. That’s why I’ve taken on a pseudonym and removed my name from the pages within my site. Its my hope that, if the method proves to be beneficial, that people use and share it freely. I guess I’d be a little miffed if someone said that they invented it (unless they actually did come up with it independently). I’d be really happy if people acknowledged that a vast community contributed to make any significant body of knowledge, cause that’s what actually happens.
As to the separate topic of whether there is related subject matter, I’d definately agree that this is a marrow washing practice, and that perhaps this method would be mutually enhancing with other marrow washing practices.November 13, 2005 at 7:02 am #8378
What I am suggesting is that you posted a nice practice and you might expand it by 1) working with all the bones in your body and 2) also concentrating on your coccyx. And you might further refine it by becoming aware of your heart beat. And yes, bone breathing and compression and the sacral pump have been fully covered by Chia and Winn.
> Experiment, enjoy, and – again – I’d be interested to hear once you’ve tried this out>
Thank you for your invitation.
> When first practicing this integration its an especially important period to be compassionate, spacious, and steadily present with your self>
I guess you’ve been doing this for a while.
TripNovember 13, 2005 at 1:21 pm #8380
The Chi Nei Tsang Institute has a long Bone Dreaming Meditation on the Sleeping Chi Kung CD. Its long 30 minutes. Spends about 10 minutes on the skull, linking and expanding the bones there w/ the breath. Another 10 minutes slowly going down the spinal cord to the sacrum.
Its a good tool for focusing the attention on the bones and feeling there movement.
MichaelNovember 13, 2005 at 2:50 pm #8382
I agree with your comments about combining with existing marrow methods. All good suggestions. Thanks.
We both know we have very different views on teachers, state of the art and so on. .. and our views tend to grate on eachother. Best to leave those dogs lazy under the porch. 🙂
> I guess you’ve been doing this for a while. >
’bout a month.November 14, 2005 at 12:03 pm #8384
btw, the sacral and cranial pumps are talked about on pg 71 of Taoist Secrets of Love. The whole of that chapter 6 is really interesting review for this current topic.November 14, 2005 at 12:49 pm #8386
Killing the flow is never good.
Daoist cannon is freeware.
Thus one can copyright only Chia UT bbreathing, Winn bbreathin, Winn heaven and earth, Kumar heaven and earth…
Nobody can copyright terms from cannon.
Howeever there is trademark Avatar.
Even in such case it is only copyrighting the form, not the essence.
Change the name and all is ok.
Central channel breathing instead of bonebreathing. Emptyforce breathing instead of central channel breathing.
Cat and mouse play entertained only because moneymarket is usable. Then the silence comes back.
There is only one big gun in the west who can judge the essence. He lives in Rome. All other judges dare only skip the surface.
2.Chia writes all his book.
The scientology boss kept producing matherial. Nobody saw him for a long time. Production went on. Only because he wouldn’t come to a summon by court was a death certificate presented. Of course no production anymore.
3.Chia writes all his books.
The mahatmas of theosophy materialized letters to people.
Mediums went into infights. Contradicting letters were produced by competing mediums.
4.Instructors get it.
Osho. Predicts his ashram will fall astray. Teaches crazy wisdom.
Look now. Instructors certify others. Still hang on to him. And have standardized crazywisdom.
5.Instructors get it.
Long Berry. Starts charging money on request of students so that he is provided.
He dies. Instructors keep charging. The same.
(he was sex guru died of prostate cancer)
of course there is also the whole grandmaster district…
And the survavalist joke (courtesy of DickSeverence):
If you have a knife in the woods, you are on vacation.November 14, 2005 at 12:55 pm #8388
You are pulsing the sacrum to draw the energy in spine.
This means that you are drawing it away from hui yin.
Hui yin is the great crossing of yin channels.
Should any fear be behind such action, hui yin freezes and ice breaks.
So I shunned from sacrum and fell in love with hui yin.
When hui yin is full, alive and throbbing, it wil naturaly feed all else.
Sacrum will get it.
HOwever only when is ok to hui yin. Not when is forced upon him.
First collection point for water is hui yin.
‘sexual energy crystilyzes at hui yin’
of course such way can awaken the dirty beast of lower dan tien.November 14, 2005 at 2:23 pm #8390
I made revisions to the essays, clarifying the method instructions, and including reference to the connection of sacral & cranial pumps.November 14, 2005 at 3:18 pm #8392
thats like “whoa”
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